I thought that someone here might know of such a list. I have a norwegian client on server - one of his domains has the *.no extension. I didn't know that not all extensions can be hosted on the *.com nameservers I use, without getting permission, or being registered/paying in some countries.

What I'm searching for is a list over foreign domain extensions that shows which countries requires registration and which doesn't. I, for instance, know that *.co.uk domain extensions can be hosted on our *.com namservers without any problems but for some extensions like *.dk and *.no - and perhaps many more, this is not possible. Does anyone here know of such a list?

Thanks
John

I would also be interested in such a list. Hay prehaps we should all club together and put a web host's resource site together, with information just like this and make it as big as WHT?

Cheers

As long as a registry are willing to resolve the domain to yer DNS - there is no reason why ut would not work.

As long as a registry are willing to resolve the domain to yer DNS - there is no reason why ut would not work.

No, it is unfortunately required. It's the same with danish extensions as norwegian. Wish there were a list somewhere - as for a resource site there is www.allthefaqs.net but I don't think there is such a list there.

John

Maybe I am wrong, but I have registered domains in several countries for my customers without any problem. And a name server is a nameserver.
Of course there are different rules, in some countries you need a local address to own a local domain, some have an awful complicated registration process, some check if the domain resolves before they will give it to you.

I'm not sure but I don't think it's the nameservers that are the problem but the difference in IP numbers (geographical)

John

Walter, did you ever successfully host .no or .dk extensions on .com nameservers? - I have a Danish domain - maybe I should use it to test if it works. The current Danish registrar that hosts the domain won't change the nameservers to mine because, as they say, they are not registered in the Danish registry over nameservers for Danish domains.

John

I host many .ro's on my .com nameservers, never had any problem.

Hello,

I host most european domain extensions on .com maneservers and have never had this problem.
most european domain registries can be found at
www.nic.(country extenion) eg. www.nic.es or www.nic.at

Are any of you hosting .dk or .no domains? - Why are they then requiring the nameservers to be registered in their registry first for a fee if anyone can do it regardless of the nameservers being registered there or not? - I'm getting confused :) have to try a .dk domain on my .com servers.

John

Nogi, you seem to be right. From the official dansk registrar:
http://www.dk-hostmaster.dk/dkhostcms/bs?pageid=159&subaction=dummy&action=cmsview&session=&language=en&
for the new .dk domain there must be at least 2 active name servers approved by the DK Hostmaster A/S.

You should send them an email asking what has to be done to approve a name server with them.

Thanks for the link :)

John

as for .ch and .li domains...their nameservers have to be registered at www.switch.ch first...but that can be done by the customer as well :)

Originally posted by Walter
Nogi, you seem to be right. From the official dansk registrar:
http://www.dk-hostmaster.dk/dkhostcms/bs?pageid=159&subaction=dummy&action=cmsview&session=&language=en&


You should send them an email asking what has to be done to approve a name server with them.

The approval is basically sending them $65 USD. They then check a domain on your DNS-server, and if it is marginally correct, they will approve you.

(I'm approved by the way) :-)

Hello,

I have a norwegian customer with .as. (would work with .no as well). We just requested them (the registrar) to point to the given ip. No problems, no fee.



support=profit

Originally posted by support=profit

I have a norwegian customer with .as. (would work with .no as well). We just requested them (the registrar) to point to the given ip. No problems, no fee.


The .as domains are "American Samoa" domains - that's a far cry from the scandinavian Norwegian and Danish domains. I don't think you can compare them that easily.

I know for a fact, that you have to pay the approval fee to have your nameserver answer for .dk domains.

.as is provided by activeisp.no for norwegian clients.
I think they provide it in Denmark too. And I have also hosted
.no domain the same way. No problem. All you need to do is
filling out a request form at the registrars website. You just
provide them with the ip`s for A and MX.


support=profit

Originally posted by support=profit
.as is provided by activeisp.no for norwegian clients.
I think they provide it in Denmark too. And I have also hosted
.no domain the same way. No problem. All you need to do is
filling out a request form at the registrars website. You just
provide them with the ip`s for A and MX.


You're not speaking about the same thing as we do.

You talking about buying dns hosting from a company that has nameservers already registred.

We are speaking of having those name servers yourself.

Well, Anyway you have two options:

1) Provide ip for A and MX for free

or

2) use your DNS server names for the .no, .dk, .as ...

The second option req. some approval + fees, but I
don`t belive it`s a major problem to get approved.
I`ll speak to my norwegian client about this and try
to get this approval next week. I`ll give you a feedback here.


support=profit

Originally posted by support=profit

1) Provide ip for A and MX for free


For .dk domains that is not possible.

I don't know about .no domains, but as far as I can read on the norwegian NIC homepage (www.norid.no) - they do not do name server service (navnetjenertjeneste) themselves. I.e. you have to buy name server services from a company with a registred name server, or have your own name server registred.

Option 1 is possible for .no domains.


This is what my client told me:

Norid just admin the .no domains. Companies like
Active ISP are registrars under and approved by
Norid. A dns transfer (option 2) has to be done by a Norid
approved registrar.

Also take a look at this:

http://www.norid.no/registrar/basisregistrar.en.html


support=profit

Originally posted by support=profit
Option 1 is possible for .no domains.


No, from what you're writing, it's _not_ possible.

As you write yourself, you have to buy the domain from a company like ActiveISP and then have the domain dns hosted with them. _Then_ you can get them to set your A and MX records to point to your IP-address.

I.e. you're paying an ordinary web hosting company to do your DNS, instead of having a DNS server yourself.

It is not the NIC that does this - it's a seperate standard company.

We're discussing the possibility of being such a company that can host domains on it's own dns servers. Not by buying DNS service from another company.

Originally posted by support=profit
Hello,

I have a norwegian customer with .as. (would work with .no as well). We just requested them (the registrar) to point to the given ip. No problems, no fee.



support=profit




lol @ support=profit :stickout

Please take a look at this link again:

http://www.norid.no/registrar/basisregistrar.en.html

"...without requiering the applicant to use their nameservers."

I hope we are done with "option 1" now as you have understand that this is domain pointing. I have never said that this mean that you use your own nameserver.

Back to "option 2": You can become a registrar of .no domains
and do the dns on your own nameserver.

To end this I`ll contact Norid and Active ISP monday. If it`s
possible I`ll also request a written doc. to post here. I`ll do this
even if I`m the one that`s wrong.

And for dreamrae.com: it is for me! No reply needed.

Originally posted by support=profit
Please take a look at this link again:

http://www.norid.no/registrar/basisregistrar.en.html
"...without requiering the applicant to use their nameservers."


Yes, I see no contradictions in that?

I.e. you can buy the domain from ISP XYZ but you can choose to have name servers from ISP ABC instead. _As long_ as ISP ABC is registered too.

That's how the system is in Denmark. Being registred for buying domains from the NIC is something entirely different than being registred to do name service for domains.

For example I'm registred to run name service for .DK domains. But I'm not registred to buy .DK domains.

Still you cannot just go ahead and do name service for a .DK domain - you have to have your name server registred first.

For .NO domains I think the situation is so that you have to be registred to buy a domain from the NIC - It's not necessarily so that you have to be registred to run nameservers. In any event you're required to comply to their "Tekniske krav for navnetjenere" (technical requirements for name servers)

http://www.norid.no/regelverk/vedlegg-f.html


I hope we are done with "option 1" now as you have understand that this is domain pointing. I have never said that this mean that you use your own nameserver.


When _why_ bring it up?

Read the subject of the discussion. We're discussing hosting foreign domain names on your name servers. _Not_ domain pointing from other name servers.

Have I said that you did not need to have
your nameservers registred first?

Have I said that you did not need to comply
with the technical requirements for name servers?

I said:

"The second option req. some approval + fees, but I
don`t belive it`s a major problem to get approved.".

My second option:

"2) use your DNS server names for the .no, .dk, .as ...

The second option req. some approval + fees, but I
don`t belive it`s a major problem to get approved."

I can see that I should have wrote:
"...your nameservers for the .no, .dk, .as...". Sorry!

I meant that as long as you have your own nameservers
you can have them approved to do service for .no, .dk.... And for this see: http://www.norid.no/regelverk/vedlegg-f.html

As for the rest of your reply: I agree that I should have
dropped the 1. option as it has nothing to do with having
your own nameservers. I`ll leave this thread as is.
You seem to be able to obtain the answers from Norid yourself.

One more thing: why_do_you_do_this_?
Well, no reply needed really.

Originally posted by support=profit
Have I said that you did not need to have
your nameservers registred first?


Ehm, yes - that was actually more or less what you said in your post to this thread.


One more thing: why_do_you_do_this_?
Well, no reply needed really.

Somebody wanted to how how to get approved for doing name services for these kinds of domains.

I replied that for .dk you had to pay a $65 fee and live up to some very modest techinical demands.

You then replied that you didn't have to, and that it was all free.

I simply want to set the record straight, so we all know which is right.

I need to make a final reply:

Please point out where in this thread I said that.
The fact is that I have never meant or said that. "More or less"?
Have I said it or not. You just refer to what is your opinion of what you think I said.
Please stop trying to make me look like an i***t.

"set the record straight, so we all know which is right.".

If you know the correct answers right from the start,
say it and back it up with some hard facts.

"and live up to some very modest techinical demands.".

This is the essens of what I refer to as option 2. If you don`t
see that then that`s your problem.

"You then replied that you didn't have to, and that it was all free.".

This refers to what I refer to as option 1. Not option 2. And as
I said in my previous reply; I should have left that out as it is domain pointing.
But don`t try to twist my words into something that I never wrote or meant.
What I said about option 1 do not refer to having your own nameservers in any way.
I`ll leave this thread with this so you can have the final word.
That is what this is all about, right?

Btw.:

"One more thing: why_do_you_do_this_?
Well, no reply needed really.".

I meant: why do you type_this_way_? Not why you replied.
I think you`ll be better of setting the record straight with what
you wright, not how you wright it.

Originally posted by support=profit
Please point out where in this thread I said that.
The fact is that I have never meant or said that. "More or less"?
Have I said it or not. You just refer to what is your opinion of what you think I said.


Ofcourse, what else can you refer to?

I'm referring to your first post in this thread. Right after I posted the $65 answer.


Please stop trying to make me look like an i***t.


I'm not. I'm just pedantic in getting the correct answers.


"set the record straight, so we all know which is right.".
If you know the correct answers right from the start,
say it and back it up with some hard facts.


I've never said that I did.

Anyways, EOD from here. You simply won't budge.