Hope this is not off-topic

we need additional IPs for multiple virtual web-servers we host on a single dedicated server at rackspace

the reason to obtain more IPs is search-engine optimization issues

as rackspace people told us we should send a letter to ARIN explaining why we need those extra-IPs but I'm afraid SEO problems would not sound to ARIN like "a serious reason for more IPs"

has anybody asked ARIN for extra-IPs? and what kind of explanation given to ARIN would guarantee that our request for extra IPs will be approved?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions

p@ka

Um, well unless you need 16 class c's and can justify the usage of 16 then arin will not give you IP's.

Quite frankly SEO is bull****, you really need to get out of that myth. Having or not having an IP does not in any way increase or decrease your listing stature in the search engine. If you want to be #1 then goto overture.com and buy advertising.

DanielP, thanks for responce, but SEO is definitely not a bull****, it may be in few years but at present it's not

the effect of interlinking from different IPs on se positioning is arguable but from my expirience it makes sense to host virtual servers linking to each other on separate IPs... well it's a long conversation and it's definitely off-topic :)

PS: and I don't like overture that much :)

Ok, I see what your doing now, you basically want a bunch of IP's so you can fake the system just to get a little higher in the search engines... don't expect anybody to cry if you don't get the IP's.

Yeah. What you're trying to do is gateway pages. And, search engines ban IPs that do that. Remember though, some engines are getting smarter and even with multiple IPs they are still getting banned.

DanielP

why so angry? :) if you don't want to have more customers then do nothing to be found on the web, this is always your personal choice :)

but if you want to be consistent you should delete the META NAME="Keywords tag from your home page, which is kind of seo thing too (one that doesn't work anymore though)
;)

well really didn't want to flame, just wanted people to share their experience on obtaining additional IPs since I've never done this before and being a newbie i couldn't understand much from what i found on arin's web-site

JTY

not exactly, in this case it's more like forming "theme society", you are right about SEs getting smarter which is a good thing in general but unfortunately sometimes they become just paranoid

and yes I agree that even multiple IPs would not protect you from being banned by some SEs if you are creating bulk doorway pages

p@ka

:)

I'm angry because people like you have the audacity to ask how to get ip's for things you don't need them for and would never be justifiable.

I do plenty to be found on the web, but then again I don't base my business on strangers finding me in a search engine so they don't concern me a lot.

But then again this is about you but if you want we can make it about me, after all any publicity is good publicity, or didn't you know that? :).

Now run along and go find a different way to fake out search engines aside from wasting IP's.

DanielP

some retail businesses sell things to "strangers who find them in a search engine", didn't you know that? :) ... don't really know where you personally are getting your customers from and don't really care... just your statement makes me wonder why you "do a lot to be found on the web" if the people who "find you on the web" don't concern you... the whole process sounds like a waist of time for both you and "the strangers" then :)

btw whatever reason you have to "do a lot to be found" some things on your site were done not well enough, I'd at least put a propper title tags on the pages other than the home-page :)

doesn't look like you have an idea of what you are talking about though, imho if you know nothing about some things, just try not to judge or discuss them :)

anyway don't know if the forum is moderated but this is definitely not a place not discuss the ethics of certain seo strategies, there are better place for that like marketpositiontalk.com or webmasterworld.com for example, pure flame is not appreciated there though :)

p@ka

*shrug*

read it as you want to, the bottom line is your wanting to know how to defaud the system to get IP's you don't need and it ain't right. You just seem to like to cloud the issue, but that must just be your tatic :)

P@ka, if you're willing to lie to the search engines why don't you just lie to ARIN about your reasons? I don't see the difference.