Google has finally gone live with their App Engine service. This is a bit more structured for web development than Amazon's services. Any thoughts on their joining the web application hosting community?

http://code.google.com/appengine/

:agree:

So what does this actually do? Is it like google apps?

http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/whatisgoogleappengine.html
Requires knowledge of Python though.

Im gonna start learning python in the next couple of months. I might get more of an understanding then of it.

I love gmail but I swear their gunna ruin the internet
well google what goes around comes around.:D

So what does this actually do? Is it like google apps?

No it is free webspace with a python application server (django and googles own version) as the only programming language at the moment. You get 10 GB transfer volumne per day for free but only 500 MB storage. And enough CPU power to serve 5 million page views (whatever this means).

I tried to register an account but the free accounts are all gone. They started with only 10000 free accounts.

i requested for an invitation... lets see if i can get any..

I wonder why there is not more discussion on this...

Yeah, Python now, but they certainly could do PHP. Beyond that, how long before someone writes a viable drupal, wordpress, joomla, and mambo on Google App Engine?

Yes i'm also surprised. Maybe it scared the sh*t out of the guys here. If this is getting serious it is a huge competition.

And it is a good opportunity for Python which is a so much better language then PHP.

Though you wouldn't think it, if you read the google app engine group.

It is a shame that Google is ignoring the majority of developers by selecting a toy language like Python.

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Yes i'm also surprised. Maybe it scared the sh*t out of the guys here. If this is getting serious it is a huge competition.
Naaah. This has been discussed many times before. :)

Google's never been seen as a threat to current webhosts. The hosting market is too fragmented and diverse, with so many different types of hosting services. Google don't dominate any market they enter, and they would barely make a scratch in the hosting market. They failed miserably with video.google.com, and had to scramble to buy youtube, so their brand entering a market does not mean domination of that market.

Hosting is also a service oriented industry and Google's bot like 3 day responses to support issues would not go down well with folks using their service.

I think your comments on service are true. However, I still think is a very serious threat. If you watch the video's on youtube, you can see that its a truly integrated service. With big table's schema'less design, you can literally point and click to roll back an application deployment.

Furthermore, all logs and metrics are in a superslick GUI. Its like, "Oh, you had three exceptions thrown today which caused three requests to fail, and here are exceptions. "

Regarding your service comments, Yes, I think that most customers I am not going to be able to use it directly. However, I am guessing some hosts will enter this market.

I know the discussions but i think a lot is wishfull thinking. Sure they are not dominating the world but it's enough if they get a huge market share. Everyone should think about it.

The are the first hoster ever that offers a useable application server (10GB per Day !). Every other attempt was not going further then simple PHP toys. I guess they have a reliable infrastructure, because they simply know what they do.

And no it is not a service oriented industry for many. I ask one or two questions per year. I know how to setup my VPS and on my shared hosting account everything is easy. You only need service when your infrastructure sucks und is as buggy as a rain forrest.

Sorry this is my obervation. They are not after Mr. John Does Cat Lover Home Page but after businesses. This is also total new and was never targeted by free hosting providers.

I believe they can change something. I will definitely trying it out. And as soon i get experience i will offer myself as a specialized service provider for google app engine customers. I guess there is money in it. And separating the service from the hosting is also something that IMHO needs to be done. You care about the hardware and somebody else might care for the software/configuration. With google apps there is no reason why this bundling shouldn't be broken up.

Though you wouldn't think it, if you read the google app engine group.



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Some of the stupidest things I've ever heard. How is Python a "toy" language?

Something for PHP lovers:

http://www.phpclasses.org/blog/post/77-Google-App-Engine-needs-PHP-support.html

PHP developers can also help letting Google know we would like to see PHP support in Google App Engine. You can do several things like:

1. Vote on this petition

http://i-want-php.appspot.com/

2.Add a star to this request issue of the Google App Engine project

http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=13

3. Go in PHP mailing lists, forums, user groups and encourage others to do the same