cedwards
08-19-2002, 09:51 PM
Is it just me or is Google.com down!?!?!??!?!
 | View Full Version : Google Down?!?! zRedDice 08-19-2002, 09:52 PM I can get to it. - James cedwards 08-19-2002, 09:53 PM Werid with Road Runner in Central Florida i cant hit it! cedwards 08-19-2002, 09:55 PM NM it just came back up for the rr here. Aussie Bob 08-19-2002, 09:55 PM I think they have something like 3000+ servers in multiple datacenters throughout the world. Doubt they'd ever be "down". :D smidwap 08-19-2002, 09:58 PM Your kidding? Tux-e-do 08-19-2002, 09:59 PM Originally posted by cedwards Is it just me or is Google.com down!?!?!??!?! Its just you :D Aussie Bob 08-19-2002, 10:02 PM Originally posted by smidwap Your kidding? nope. Saw a TV documentary on it. I'm sure if you dig hard enough, you'll find that information somewhere. Sorry I don't have the exact source to verify what I wrote. I'm too busy to go hunting for it now...:) rob_smidwap 08-19-2002, 10:02 PM It has been off, and on here all day in Ohio. (Adelphia Powerlink) smidwap 08-19-2002, 10:03 PM Hmm...maybe they are doing something to their search engine? :eek: Ya never know. ;) JTY 08-19-2002, 10:20 PM If I remember from a Linux Journal interview they have over 10,000 servers. In an interview in 2000, they had over 6,000 servers... http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue59/correa.html phpcoder 08-19-2002, 10:30 PM :eek: WOW... but then again they are one of the most popular, if not THE most popular site/network online. Aussie Bob 08-19-2002, 10:31 PM From memory [the TV doc], they share some datacenters with hotmail and some other huge brands. These were huge facilities too. Pretty exciting stuff indeed!! :D Aussie Bob 08-19-2002, 10:32 PM Originally posted by phpcoder :eek: WOW... but then again they are one of the most popular, if not THE most popular site/network online. Yeah :D they get the odd visitor each day. ;) smidwap 08-19-2002, 10:51 PM Wonder what the need thousands of servers for? :eek: phpcoder 08-19-2002, 10:53 PM Probably to host all of their "cheap ad rates" which are like 2.50 a click or something :rolleyes: NodeHost 08-19-2002, 10:53 PM Ever tried getting 2+ million hits a hour? Kinda bogs down just one server :D smidwap 08-19-2002, 10:55 PM Not trying to get off topic here, but that means they have have their domain hosted on multiple server? (Yes, I know, this topic has been discussed before. :D ) phpcoder 08-19-2002, 11:01 PM Originally posted by NodeHost Ever tried getting 2+ million hits a hour? Kinda bogs down just one server :D I bet they are all raq's ;) . . . . . J/K :stickout JTY 08-19-2002, 11:04 PM I'll try and dig up the issue of Linux Journal. But, the general idea is that each server holds different parts of the db and such. Which allows for high reliability. Also, it allows them to use cheaper hardware, no need for expensive SAN systems. ServerSonic 08-19-2002, 11:09 PM http://www.google.com/appliance/index.html Larger Image: http://www.google.com/press/images/appliance.jpg More than 10,000 servers in the worlds largest Linux cluster http://www.google.com/press/highlights.html Short article about how they manage 10k servers http://www.nwfusion.com/newsletters/accel/2001/00991542.html universal2001 08-19-2002, 11:21 PM lol.. 10,000.. right... 1 box can prob handle 1 million searches so it means they only need 150.... not 10,000.. with 10,000 they can prob handle 2billion searches ServerSonic 08-19-2002, 11:28 PM You are forgetting that google maintains a cache of websites which takes up quite a bit of storage, plus the fact that a platform like googles has servers setup for different purposes, ie every box isn't a copy of each other, the whole thing is just spread out a lot. JayC 08-19-2002, 11:49 PM Originally posted by universal2001 lol.. 10,000.. right...There's no question that "about" 10,000 servers is correct. A big part of Google's identity from the beginning has been that they use a large number of very simple Linux boxes -- in contrast to some other search services that operate much more complex heavy iron. Your calculation leaves out the fact that they build in redundancy, and much data is duplicated. My searches from New York won't be handled in the same data center as will someone's from Australia. And consider the storage involved in caching, as ServerSonic pointed out, billions of web pages... and add in such features as the image databases and a couple of decades' worth of Usenet archives. And, different machines are doing different things: the web pages are handled by a webserver pretty much like any other, but the actual searches are handled by "index servers," which then query "document servers" which retrieve from storage individual pages that have been identified in the index. Then back to a webserver, and back to you. By the way, I've never seen any mention of that "Google appliance" linked to above actually being used for the real work at Google's datacenter. That's their retail product sold for corporate search environments. brands 08-20-2002, 12:08 AM Last time, I checked, i read somewhere, Google had 20,000 + servers ... that sure would be increased by now. If any of you would like to know the technology behind google...follow the links here..also there is an Interview with the COO of google Jim Resse : Technology Behind Google (http://www.deepcrawl.com/senews/b2.php?m=200208#3) :) smidwap 08-20-2002, 12:09 AM Okay, each time someone posts the number of servers Google has goes up. :D archie2 08-20-2002, 12:11 AM I read in a magazine, google had 10,000 linux boxes that can be all controled from one machine, how cool is that! brands 08-20-2002, 12:14 AM Surely, I am not kidding here ! Also, one of the forums a rep from google takes part...and he happens to confirm the issue ! :) QuantumK 08-20-2002, 12:16 AM I can access it now...:confused: Akash 08-20-2002, 12:22 AM Originally posted by smidwap Okay, each time someone posts the number of servers Google has goes up. :D no, the others are just wrong.....they've had nearly 30,000 for about 4 months now :D archie2 08-20-2002, 12:24 AM 30,000 servers! they must have a LOT of administrators to manage all that :) :) ServerSonic 08-20-2002, 12:40 AM Originally posted by archie2 I read in a magazine, google had 10,000 linux boxes that can be all controled from one machine, how cool is that! hehe... quite easy really, just use ssh:) archie2 08-20-2002, 12:54 AM LOL I meant they can have all the computers update telnet or ftp or run a command all together thats awesome! JayC 08-20-2002, 01:54 AM Originally posted by smidwap Okay, each time someone posts the number of servers Google has goes up. :D Well, it does keep going up. They're building constantly... but of course no one outside the Googleplex really knows exactly how many machines are installed. It's hard even to get firm and up-to-date information on exactly how many data centers they're in. Here, though, is a link I saved a while ago that has a lot of interesting tech detail: http://www.intel.com/ebusiness/casestudies/snapshots/google.htm NodeHost 08-20-2002, 01:58 AM I wanna be this guy: 1 server.... 2 servers.... 3 servers.... on second thought, that can get old really quick! nayeem 08-20-2002, 05:23 AM how do they afford 10,000 servers?? ServerCentreLtd 08-20-2002, 05:39 AM Good Question, They don't make that sort of money from adwords, do they? nayeem 08-20-2002, 05:44 AM add the 150 employees salary to it to manage the servers. Domenico 08-20-2002, 05:58 AM Originally posted by smidwap Wonder what the need thousands of servers for? :eek: You are kidding right? Ever tried to find a needle in 100 haystacks and actually found it within a second? ServerCentreLtd 08-20-2002, 06:01 AM Originally posted by Domenico You are kidding right? Ever tried to find a needle in 100 haystacks and actually found it within a second? Everyday! Domenico 08-20-2002, 06:01 AM Originally posted by nayeem how do they afford 10,000 servers?? A privately held company, Google earns money by licensing its technology to customers like Netscape NetCenter*, Red Hat*, Washington Post and Virgin Net* as well as by displaying advertising on search results pages. True to the company's mission of delivering fast searches, its ads consist of simple text. I've read somewhere about this and I recall the figures are really high... Domenico 08-20-2002, 06:02 AM Originally posted by isolsdotnet Everyday! My guess is you are using google to find them. :D Cheater! seg fault 08-20-2002, 06:15 AM Remember, google stores all its cache on RAM not normal hard disks (for speed optimisation purposes) http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/internet/02/01/interview.eric.schmidt.idg/index.html brands 08-20-2002, 06:26 AM Originally posted by isolsdotnet Good Question, They don't make that sort of money from adwords, do they? Google's revenue is not only from the adwords.... Domenico, mentioned a few other sources of their revenue...and since its a privately held company, outside of the googleplex...not many knows the facts ! brands 08-20-2002, 06:34 AM Any one noticed this : From the case study of GOOGLE on the intel site : The company estimates that it adds approximately 30 new servers a day to its farm, just to keep pace with mounting demand. No wonder, that they might have crossed 30,000 servers by now...! :o MAX POWER 08-20-2002, 06:45 AM Google sell their services to others like Yahoo, etc. ;) MAX POWER :homer: susannad 08-20-2002, 08:15 AM everyone sells now even, I believe, Topica mail-lists :) buff 08-20-2002, 08:39 AM Originally posted by cedwards Is it just me or is Google.com down!?!?!??!?! Yeah, it's just you. :stickout :D :eek: ForumsAddict 08-20-2002, 08:40 AM Thats true!! :D |