?

VB ate it up?

That wouldnt make any since because I don't see any other threads missing.

i guess the original thread starter deleted it. Coz i dun think any of the mods have touched it.

I think pogo started it so I wonder why they deleted it.

Matrix let me/us know how you get on with pogo.

G,

What do you mean?

I didn't realize that they could delete the thread since they were the topic starter. If I had known that I would have copied and pasted everything in that thread. If they did delete it then its obvious because they have not handled this situation properly at all. On top of that I would not recommend them to anyone.

I was aggreeing with what kunal said /\ up there. I guess he knows more about the board as he is an admin. I have never deleted anything on this board so I don't know how it works, it sounds logical though that Pogo don't want people to know what went on. So in the future when you search for pogo on the board you don't find that thread.

Pogo if you are reading this let us know if you did deleted it.

Matrix have you left pogo? If not let us know if you get anywhere with them.

By the way the server I used to have with racklocation is still up.

G,

I actually e-maied them through here asking them why they deleted the thread. Let's see if they respond however I doubt they will. And no i'm not with Pogo and I wont go with them because I personally believe they suck. My site is still up too through the IP# so they haven't gotten the servers yet. Maybe it was my post yesterday about telling evreyone that what would happen is nothing. That everyone would be waiting for a long time before their servers were taken care of is what got them to delete the thread.

By the way is your new server set up?

NO :( but I was told the it might take a while. Still within their estimate. Have you got another server somewhere? is it good?

Although the thread did go OT for a while there - I hope that the admins could retrieve it and put it back. Is that possible?

I think it was very "educational" thread - particularly for anyone considering hosting with PogoLinux in the future. But, more generally, it may be an important indicator of the viability of the sub $100 dedicated market ?

I'm afraid it certainly looks like PogoLinux deleted the thread, as I'm unable to find it in search and the DB. Unfortunately this means we are also unable to recover the thread.

We may look at disallowing people from deleting threads in the future.

Well, every member has the power to start a thread. They also have the power to delete their own posts. If the post they want to delete is the topic post, then yes, it goes flush, and it won't be back.

...and i was about to copy and save the pogolinux thread and urgent's but decided it doesnt concern me anyway so i passed on it...<regrets>

elijaH

I think you should be able to delete your own posts but not a thread. If a thread needed to be deleted some one could just ask a moderator to.

Some one that was/is changing to pogo make sure you post one the board all the FACTS so that if in the future some one searches they will still get all the details.

Yes, it was a shame to see that thread go. Though it didn't concern me at all, it was interesting reading - seeing how these three 'companies' were sorting this mess of theirs out. My opinion was pretty poor in regards to all three, but was interested to see who was going to finally put their hand up and accept the responsibility of it all :) - if any did.

The one thing that did concern me throughout most of that thread was a distinct lack of mentioning *people*. They talked about debts, servers, contracts... but I didn't hear the word customer too often - maybe a telling sign in itself.

Greg Moore

Yep, I'm not too impressed either. Deleting a thread like this is like kicking sand in our faces while we're down.

I'm just glad I didn't do anything too important with my box there.

so I suppose the big question is..

What are you guys going to do regarding those servers? Seems if they're pulling a public voice away from their problem you'll have to get together to pool resources and share anything you hear from them.

Not trying to be the guy with the big flaming cross yelling from the rooftop, but these three groups of people to my account have been pretty piss-poor in looking after their customers. The best 'offer' I saw was you could have your server somewhere else, at an inflated price to what you agreed to pay for it. A nice token would have been them eating the loss a little but they don't seem too interested in that.

Greg Moore

We have now disabled to ability for members to delete threads, but you can still edit posts freely. I will check the backups to see if I can restore the thread.

G,

No I haven't gotten another one yet. Still checking out places.

Has anyone that got a server by these places been contacted by either company or have you contacted them? If so what have they had to say?

Well, they never contacted me to inform me about the switch and despite my server being unavailable for 4 days.
I emailed them to cancel a few days ago and have had no reply yet. Seems this whole thing is just one huge mess :/

Sorry to see the thread go. It taught me a lot before making the plunge myself. This way, I can learn from your mistakes instead of mine :-)
Keith

I find it very interesting that none of the companies involved have bothered to comment on this new thread lately.

I'm not aware of alot of the specifics, but there may be enough grounds for a serious lawsuit. I mean, usually in these cases there contracts, lots o paperwork, emails, phone records, billing statements, invoices, etc. Y'all may want to consider a legal action. No idea if enough stuff applies for a class action suit. It seems it, but, I'm not a lawyer, nor do I have full info on this, so I have no clue.

Just my 2 cents.
:)

I might add that I e-mailed Pogo Linux a long time ago asking them why they deleted the thread and they never responded back.

As far as i'm concerned I think both of these places should be avoided. That is both PogoLinux and RackLocation.

As far as a lawsuit one could file one if they wanted to but it probably would be a waste of time. I don't think you would get much out of it and would end up being more trouble than what it would be worth.

Well, my server was doing fine until last night. I was installing EMUmail and decided to reboot to see if it would fix a problem. So I selected the reboot option in Webmin.

The server went down, but didn't come back up. (I had just a couple of sites on it, so it's not a big loss.)

I e-mailed PogoLinux last night about the status of the severs move, but haven't received a reply yet.

Rehan,

PogoLinux is terrible as far as i'm concerned. They've tried to blame everything on RackLocation, but they've did enough and not enough to prove their worth in my opinion.

I don't know how anyone could recommend them at this time either.

Originally posted by Matrix
but they've did enough and not enough to prove their worth in my opinion.

I think that about sums it up perfectly :) This wouldn't be the first time a company has come swanning in here offering a super-dooper deal that a lot of people seem to jump on, only to have the rug pulled out from under them a few weeks,or few months later.

I've had my eye on a few dedicated sellers here. I don't need one yet, but you can't start researching too soon. It won't be too long before I'm door knocking them getting specifics, but I can assure you they won't be one of the pick of the moment companies. I prefer to see a company quietly kicking along, producing a quality product, that frequents this board a fair amount of the time to stay in touch with the news.

You might save a couple of bucks off your first month or so, but if they go down the tube, you're not getting any sort of deal at all.

Greg Moore

Originally posted by Matrix
Rehan,

PogoLinux is terrible as far as i'm concerned. They've tried to blame everything on RackLocation, but they've did enough and not enough to prove their worth in my opinion.

I don't know how anyone could recommend them at this time either.

Ditto. I still haven't received a reply to my e-mail.

CALL THEM JESUS
1-888-828-7646 ASK FOR TIM LEE

QUIT EMAILING

node9,

Why won't they answer their e-mails? They are obviously getting them. Why should I have to call Tim Lee up to get an answer as to why he deleted that thread?

do you seriously like typing than speaking out ?

I would rather call them and speak my mind if i am upset, or whatever your problem is

IF i KNOW for a fact that I will get answers by calling why the hell ami going to sit around and wiat for their email

maybe somethign is wrong??????
who konws man u cant say for sure why they aren't answering

just call them

whether you lik ethem or not
if you want your questions answered
CALL THEM
1-888-828-7646

If not, then please stop talking about their thread, and the e-mails, and the this and the that.....

node9,

Why don't you come clean and admitt you are shilling for them. I will talk about Pogo Linux as long as I like and inform everyone about there crap service.

I don't want to call them because I know for one that I wont get anyone on the phone. And for the fact I don't want to listen to a bunch of horse $hit.

If they can't answer an e-mail then they suck in my opinion. That means anytime someone needs tech support they have to try and get them on the phone....Good Luck.

LOL

I am trying to frickin HELP YOU HERE
and your telling me "why dont you admit blah blah blah"

I am NOT in any way associated with pogolinux get it straight

I just think its annoying you sit on these boards and whine about racklocation/pogo linux

"I don't want to call them because I know for one that I wont get anyone on the phone. And for the fact I don't want to listen to a bunch of horse $hit."

oh gimmie a break

Yeah matrix, that's exactly why I always seem to get someone on the phone, right??????

you can whine and cry about pogo all you want

I just think its annoying

i was giving a suggestion

Question I got is since -both- parties involved have/had accts here, and have posted about the situation in the past, why haven't either of them responded?

I mean, even a simple "We're focusing on getting stuff done to smooth the server moves" would appease alot of folks.

Just wondering.

It says a lot when a company does not reply
to posts like this to clear their name.

Originally posted by node9
LOL

I am trying to frickin HELP YOU HERE
and your telling me "why dont you admit blah blah blah"

I am NOT in any way associated with pogolinux get it straight

I just think its annoying you sit on these boards and whine about racklocation/pogo linux



I could care less what you think Node9. These boards are for communicating....do you know what that means?

Your posts are annoying to me everytime you keep defending them, but you don't see me telling you to quit posting that stuff now do you?

As far as you having no association with Pogo Linux that is a lie. You have already admitted that you have a friend that works there. Plus with all that's went on you come on here saying that they have such great servers. Give us a break we aren't all that stupid.

You seem to be the only one defending this place as well as saying pick up the phone, pick up the phone. As others have addressed neither parties in this matter have addressed this in the right way. Both Pogo Linux and RackLocation have accounts on here and havent said a damn word.

Oh, but i'm sure they probably haven't been looking at this board.

If you don't like the posts the obvious thing is to not read it. Maybe others are interested in whats going on and why they don't respond.

"As far as you having no association with Pogo Linux that is a lie. You have already admitted that you have a friend that works there. Plus with all that's went on you come on here saying that they have such great servers. Give us a break we aren't all that stupid. "

uhm
JUST because I have a friend that works there, DOESNT mean I am ASSOCIATED with them like they are my business partners or something

Whenever i need help I ASK for a specific person
why talk to someoen who doesnt konw anything about my situation(s)

does it make you angry that i say their servers are great?

I have used one before, and BECAUSE I have used one, I can SAY that they are great, because ive seeen it, unlike you have.

"Give us a break, we aren't all that stupid"

I don't think anyone is stupid

and damn right i'm going to tell you to pick up the phone and just make a phone call instead of sitting here waiting for them to see your *messages* on boards, on a 2 page post/topic
not everyone is a "WHT addict" like you are (i mean after all, it says so under your name :)

Originally posted by node9
"As far as you having no association with Pogo Linux that is a lie. You have already admitted that you have a friend that works there. Plus with all that's went on you come on here saying that they have such great servers. Give us a break we aren't all that stupid. "

uhm
JUST because I have a friend that works there, DOESNT mean I am ASSOCIATED with them like they are my business partners or something

Whenever i need help I ASK for a specific person
why talk to someoen who doesnt konw anything about my situation(s)

does it make you angry that i say their servers are great?

I have used one before, and BECAUSE I have used one, I can SAY that they are great, because ive seeen it, unlike you have.

"Give us a break, we aren't all that stupid"

I don't think anyone is stupid

and damn right i'm going to tell you to pick up the phone and just make a phone call instead of sitting here waiting for them to see your *messages* on boards, on a 2 page post/topic
not everyone is a "WHT addict" like you are (i mean after all, it says so under your name :)



You can keep harping about how great they are as long as you want, because in my opinion they suck. And if it made me made I would have said so a long time ago. I think its more ignorance than anything. No one in there right mind would put up with the crap that both RackLocation and PogoLinux have given or should we say not given too.

WHT addict? hmm...I would say not, but I do come here to look at posts that have interest to me. Maybe one day you will join the ranks of us addicts.

I can tell you one thing that I have seen from Pogo and that's a lack of profesional conduct on their part. Anyone that condones themself as they have or RackLocation deserves not to get people's business such as mine.

As for waiting for them to see my messages on the board i've e-mailed Tim Lee specifically several times. And i'm sure he gets those mails, but just doesn't care to answer. Again another example of how un-profesional they are.

For you to be beating a drum about how great their servers are when they have conducted themselves the way they have doesn't sit well. Maybe someone should sign up with them and get this type of attention that they have been giving and the lack of it.

Bottom line is I think people should get good service for what they pay for and therefore that's why I don't recommend Pogo Linux or RackLocation.

All I know is that my dedicated server was installed, incorrectly, it died, and then customer support wasn't. I'm out $125, and would like service, or my money back. I've sent pogo (tim lee) email twice, and received nothing back.

Originally posted by warewolf
All I know is that my dedicated server was installed, incorrectly, it died, and then customer support wasn't. I'm out $125, and would like service, or my money back. I've sent pogo (tim lee) email twice, and received nothing back.


Warewolf,

Did you originally join through RackLocation? Or was this a direct order through PogoLinux?

How long ago did your server go down? and what install did they do wrong?


Thanks

Tim Lee takes at least a week to reply. Well he does with me anyway. Might be just with xcustomers.

hmm
I don't konw why the hell he isn't replying
I will calll him today or tomorrow and ask him about this.

I am starting to smell some BULL$hit from pogo/tim

Node9,

YES....He's finally coming to the light :)

Node9,

What are some of the other tech numbers for Pogo Linux? And i'm referring to other numbers other than the one listed on their site.

Is your website that's on Dialtone with RackLocation

the only reason i said that is because at first I thought it was just matrix not being replied to
but now i see others not getting replies


so i dunno
I don't know any other tech numbers, I haven't needed any, i just usually dial 1-888-848-8246 or whatever the hell the # i son the page, and i can always get thru to tim

but the fact of the matter is that I have gotten through to tim, he usually answers my questions, but the **** doesnt seem to happen.. like... with him saying netcolony is slow on moving the servers out of the facility
IT's been 4 weeks
I havent seen **** moved yet
least not my server
so i'm starting to wonder why it's taking so long for them to move it, and why do they keep tellin me the same ****
so i will call them today again and ask them wtf is up

oh and matrix
when i said pogolinux is solid as a rock
I meant that, their actuall servers, are nice, and fast, and never go down..

Customer service, tech suport, replies, responses, emails, may be different stories

But i was simply saying, their connectivity is good

yes my server was with racklocation originally
just co-located with DI

hasnt been moved to the so called pogolinux data center

i called pogo
tim should be posting soemthing answering your questions (your being everyone who has questions)

still waiting...
atleast tim told me he'd post onhere

who knows ;/

Well Tim finally did e-mail me back after not answering around 4 or 5 e-mails about why he deleted that Pogo Linux thread. I asked him what was going on with the servers and he replied back on 3-28-01 as follows:



The servers are still in Netcolony's posession. They have repeatedly delayed
sending back the servers, even though they've said they will do it. Last
thing I heard was that it would be moved this Friday.

All we can do is to wait and see. No one is being charged monthly fees right
now, and anyone who's prepaid is going to have their service extended for
the time that their server has been down. There's realyl nothing we can do
except to wait for NC to send the servers to us.

Let me know if you have any questions.


Tim Lee
(888) 828-7646 Ext. 42
(510) 315-3244 FAX

extension 42 matrix : ) remember that

Whats the other tech numbers? Tim posted on here in that thread that he deleted that they had more tech numbers, but when I asked the question in that thread 3 or 4 times I never got an answer. Do you know what they are since you have called them before?

No i don't konw them

Maybe you should email tim HAAHAHAHA just kidding

Nah uhm, i'll call on monday and ask them if they have any other tech numbers