Just wanted to know what you thought along these lines. We are currently thinking of using a reseller account. But would like to know if we should go dedicated here is why I ask?

The reseller I contacted I asked if we could "oversell" our bandwidth and diskspace, assuming this is what companies do. Mind you we are not thinking of putting 1000s of accounts on a server or our hosting plan, but the resellers response was we only had X amount of bandwidth to reallocate and if you want to sell more bandwidth you have to buy it. For instance, let's say the ceiling is 20GB we can only sell 2 accounts with 10GB of transfer, however I want to say their account has 40GB of transfer, assuming that most websites will only do 100-200Megs of transfer a month. But the reseller says if we sell 3 accounts so assumedly 30GB transfer a month we have to purchase 10 additional GB per month. But my point is what if all the sites we have on our reseller account does not exceed even 1GB or 2GB of transfer we are paying for 10GB we are not using?

Do I make sense? Anyways should we get a dedicated server then? Or are there other reseller accounts who will allow us to oversell and then pay for the bandwidth we do use, if we go over? If there are resellers that do that please PM with any offers and use WHM/Cpanel, or if that is illegal I'll start a thread in the required forum. Kind of in a hurry as we already have several clients wanting to sign up :)

Thanks,

Sam

What is this hosting company?? They might be running Plesk, because Plesk does not allow clients to oversell. However, CPanel does.

Reselling and allocating a dedicated server (managed or un-managed) are two very different things.

Having your own dedicated server will not only allow you to oversell, but you'll mostlikely have more disk space and bandwidth to provide. However, you may encounter many new problems, and there'll be new things you'll have to deal with. And it wouldn't be a good choice going for un-manged dedicated servers if you have little to no knowledge in handling them.

I've never come across a web host that offered reseller packages, yet did not allow their clients to re-sell. I don't see how it could be a problem considering that they provide you with _ disk space and _ data transfer, and from there you decide how you'd like to create/sell your plans. Unless you are using Plesk that is, as smidwap stated.

Thanks for the replies guys. I want to leave the hosting companies I have contacted anonymous as I see no need to degrade their reputation on these forums, since I have not really gone thru them yet.

The company does use WHM/CPanel however what I was looking at, and I still do not know if I am clear on this is say for instance they give us 10 megs and 10Gigs of transfer a month on a reseller account. And say we have a plan that is like 5 megs and 5 Gigs, we in essence can only sell two of these accounts since two will reach our limit. But what if those users only use 1 meg and 20megs a month of transfer? I would like to be able to sell a 3rd account, but the hosting company is saying you are only allowed 10GB of transfer and you have to pay for an additional 5 Gigs even though, lets say this new client averages the same kind of stats, we don't use that bandwidth??? If we do go over the 10GB of transfer I would be happy to pay, but why pay for an additional bandwidth charge if we are not exceeding the 10GB we are alloted?

If a dedicated server managed would allow me to do that great. However, the hosting companies I have spoke with says WHM has a limit set to it and once you hit that limit in just account allocation you can not go over, or create new accounts, even though the accounts we have on there are not exceeding or using that much space.

Sam

What is this hosting company?? They might be running Plesk, because Plesk does not allow clients to oversell.

smidwap, there is a solution to this prob. You can put '0' in the fields of webspace or BW, then you can oversell. This however is shown in the client's control panel......may be plesk looks into it :)

Originally posted by ForumsAddict


smidwap, there is a solution to this prob. You can put '0' in the fields of webspace or BW, then you can oversell. This however is shown in the client's control panel......may be plesk looks into it :)

No it is my newbieness in trying to sell accounts :( Since I have little knowledge of CPanel I just go with what the hosting company tells me. And from what I hear when you create your 'packages' in WHM it subtracts the disk space and bandwidth use from your quota.

Sam

And from what I hear when you create your 'packages' in WHM it subtracts the disk space and bandwidth use from your quota.

You may directly confirm it from the hosting company itself. I think it can be changed with regards to WHM/Cpanel webspace &BW restrictions.

You might want to go over the cPanel/WHM forums: http://forums.cpanel.net

I'm sure that something relavent to this thread has been discussed there previously, and you may find a solution to this problem.

Originally posted by Synthetic
You might want to go over the cPanel/WHM forums: http://forums.cpanel.net

I'm sure that something relavent to this thread has been discussed there previously, and you may find a solution to this problem.

Thanks for the heads up I'm registering for a username there now. But wouldn't this be violating the hosts ToS or rules? If that is how they want it done, they host company didn't say there's a workaround they were adamant about just allocating space and bandwidth through WHM.

Sam

Did they specifically state that they do not allow resellers to oversell? Or do they just say if you exceed your disk space/bandwidth allowance you'll need to purchase extra?

Originally posted by Synthetic
Did they specifically state that they do not allow resellers to oversell?

Specifically state :(

Like I said I don't mind paying for the overage on space or bandwidth, but I would like to use my alloted space and/or bandwidth before paying for more.

Sam

Might you consider transfering to a host that does allow you to oversell? I suppose it's your only other option.

Originally posted by Synthetic
Might you consider transfering to a host that does allow you to oversell? I suppose it's your only other option.

That's the last thing I want to do. This host has a great reputation on these forums, and I would like to host with them, but alas, if that is our only option... :(

Sam

I rather use reseller because I can not manage a server for my life..

Originally posted by archie2
I rather use reseller because I can not manage a server for my life..

I rather use reseller until we have enough clients to justify our own server. :)

Sam

I am sure you will find an excellent host which allows you to oversell if you do research. Well if you cannot afford a server, its better to find the one which suits you the most.

Originally posted by ForumsAddict
I am sure you will find an excellent host which allows you to oversell if you do research. Well if you cannot afford a server, its better to find the one which suits you the most.

Thanks for the vote of optimism. It is not a matter of affording a server just I don't want to put an outlay of cash if it is not warranted. If I can do it with a reseller account so be it, but if you advice is from the get go get a ded server, then I feel I and my partner must evaluate that option.

The more cash we put into something else the less we can give our clients in terms of support.

Sam