where could i find people capable of building a panel so that i can find out the costs,, etc.

I can help you.
i have pmed you info

Is there any reason an off the shelf solution won't do?

I dont want monthlly costs for a control panel that i will pay more for in the long run than the server im running it on, i want to purchase my servers outright and i would like to do the same with the panel.. it would keep monthly expense down and profit up.

I want my own panel that i have complete right over, not some pric telling me its 10 more per 30 users.

Originally posted by jdp29053
I dont want monthlly costs for a control panel that i will pay more for in the long run than the server im running it on, i want to purchase my servers outright and i would like to do the same with the panel.. it would keep monthly expense down and profit up.

I want my own panel that i have complete right over, not some pric telling me its 10 more per 30 users.

Sorry...but you'll be talking about 5 figures for something worth looking at.....

In fact, given the amount of work, you would need at least 2 totally dedicated programmers who know what they're doing working for a year or so....

you really would be better off going with something already on the market!!

Cheers,

try webmin

Creating a decent control panel takes time and effort. Additionally you have to have good programming skills (or a great partner) and a lot of experience in the field.

I'd say you can pull this off _well_ only if you have in-house programmers. Creating a control panel is not something you do once, you have to enhance it, kill the bugs, document it and so on. In addition you need a solid infrastructure platform to build it on (operating systems, databases etc.). You possibly want to integrate it into your billing system and things like that.

We have been there and done that. We created our own control panel and now are quite happy with it, so are our customers, but i feel we only pulled it off because of our great programmers :)

And most of all, it's not cheap :)

Believe me, if it was this easy to create your own control panel, then everyone who a couple grand extra would get one programmed for them. :D

Also, programming a control panel I think takes capabilities in more than one language (i.e. php and C).

It takes knowledge of more than programming languages, it takes knowledge of the whole operating systems, all the server software/configuration, programming languages, databases as well as other planning such as updates and others... it is no easy task by ANY means... they appear simple when you think about what they should do, modify a file here, add a user there, but it is very detailed and there is much more to it than meets the eye...

So there is no one that would be willing to take their panel, alter it to a diff. version or something, and sell it outright to someone?

I will PM you, check your messages

It's not fun (well.. sort of); it's worth it; and in the long run it can be a very very powerful tool with unlimited potential, provided that the foundations are laid correctly. Planning is the most IMPORTANT phase you can do. It is really not a thing you can build by "osmosis."

As most of these posts say, you need an extensive knowledge of the OS/s you wish to run it on plus you have to be ready for the new technologies that will be released for each OS that you may wish to uptake later on.

Originally posted by smidwap
Believe me, if it was this easy to create your own control panel, then everyone who a couple grand extra would get one programmed for them. :D

Also, programming a control panel I think takes capabilities in more than one language (i.e. php and C).

I agree - we have been working on a control panel for two years now and if I was to put a price on the development cost you are looking at over a 100 grand based on time/money (2 years development @ 25 quid an hour). Looking through my archives, my project started in sept 2000 and it is only just coming to completion!

Originally posted by mlovick


I agree - we have been working on a control panel for two years now and if I was to put a price on the development cost you are looking at over a 100 grand based on time/money (2 years development @ 25 quid an hour). Looking through my archives, my project started in sept 2000 and it is only just coming to completion!

Yes...but a company would never pay you that rate ;)

Theres nothing cheaper than your own time :D

u r absolutely right - but it puts perspective on it doesnt it, which was what I was trying to get across ;)

Everyone saying that a programmer will charge a bunch for all the time it will take for the control panel development.

But, what about those control panels out there that come with ChiliASP or ColdFusion? Those are some licenses you are saving on. All of the control panels that have neat little programs included in them that are not open source are already paid for! Whereas if you are creating your own, you will have to purchase them and install those separate.

Na, i built my own and wouldnt consider using another one.. I have so much control. ASP, well, i wouldnt use asp on a linux box but (just as a(n illegal) hint, anyone can get chiliasp for free from a raq restore cd)) i think the 1 or 2 customers that you loose from asp and coldfusion makes up for it IMHO

Your control panel can be created. The cost depends on the exact requirements and language used and servers.