Hello, I am thinking of opening a webhosting company from my house. If I bought server(s), and networked all of them togethere, what type of connection should I start out with? If I am correct ADSL is 8mb/sec right? And T1 connection is 1.544MB/sec right? Then why does T1 cost like 20 times more? Could I just hook up my server to my dsl connection? Can anyoneplease exlain more on T1 access, I am very intrested in it. Where to get it, how it works, how to connect it to your network ect... Please help thank Kyle

Ok here is the difference of t1 and dsl with a comparison of 2 water hoses. Ok lets say you got a wide hose and a small one hooked up to the same speed of water flow. The wider hose being the t1 can push out water slower than the smaller hose(asdl). But since the wider hose (t1) is wider it can push out more water at one time, then the adsl. It would be a good idea starting a company on a dedicated machine. you can get one at rackshack for pretty cheap

I think that is because a T1 line is dedicated and a DSL line is not; you share it with a WAN. (Correct me if I am wrong.) :eek:

I read the reply i wrote but, it makes no sences what so ever.
Ok You have a Fat hose and a skinny Hose. The Fat hose can push more water out than then skinnier one. But the skinny one can push the water out faster because it is under pressure.

skinny hose = asdl
fat hose = t1

Originally posted by KyleLC23
Hello, I am thinking of opening a webhosting company from my house. If I bought server(s), and networked all of them togethere, what type of connection should I start out with? If I am correct ADSL is 8mb/sec right? And T1 connection is 1.544MB/sec right? Then why does T1 cost like 20 times more? Could I just hook up my server to my dsl connection? Can anyoneplease exlain more on T1 access, I am very intrested in it. Where to get it, how it works, how to connect it to your network ect... Please help thank Kyle

A T-1 line is a business-class connection. There are federal regulations regarding uptime, quality of service, and repair response times for a T-1 line. None of these exists for an ADSL line; thus, a T-1 line is much more expensive because of the technology and manpower required to keep the line running within spec.

A T-1's maximum theoretical datarate is 1544 kilobits per second upstream AND downstream. ADSL's maximum theoretical datarate is something like 8000 kilobits per second down and 1200 kilobits per second upstream. So while you'll have a lot more downstream capability with your ADSL connection, your upstream will be less -- and if you're doing hosting, most of the data transfer is going to be outbound (upstream).

If your ADSL service provider will allow you to run servers using your line (many will not, especially for their residential customers), then there's nothing stopping you from doing your hosting off of your ADSL line. But be warned: many, many customers won't even look at a hosting company unless the company has its servers in a secure, climate-controlled datacenter connected to high-speed, high-availability business-class data lines (i.e. not an ADSL to your house).

The main reason is that you will not be allowed to have any commercial website hosting on a home DSL line.

With a T1, to get the best price, you probably have to sign a 3 year contract.

Yeah, most ISP's won't allow servers on their network. They take too much bandwith up. :(

Hello,

I'm just wondered why don't you get a dedicated server and run your bedroom hosting hassle free ?

Do you know that running your own server, not housed in a data center, requires lots of background knowledge? It ain't that easy. Instead of paying that much of money to get a T-1 line, better get a dedicated server which runs some control panels such as Plesk, Ensim, Cpanel & etc. which are very user friendly and most important thing, it's hassle free...

Datapipe.com is providing dedicated servers with reasonable prices. Of course in quality they're good as well.

Yes, and not to mention you'll need some kind of redundant power source.

Since we are on the topic, I have also considered on starting an dialup isp. Would a T1 work for this. Anyone have any clue whats needed ect?

I was thinking of getting this product for my dialup isp: http://portmasters.com/pricing-pm3.html , what else would I nee to get provide? If I have a T1 in houson, hooked up to this port master, would I also have to get an additional # for the access number, or would it be one of the 24 lines on the T1? I have no clue how this works? Like how do the ips that have amny access numbers work? Like those that have 5000 numbrs and more, do hey have a server at each location/area code? Please help thanks, Kyle

It is nice to see that you are tring to do all of this and you have come to the right place for help, but I'm not sure why you are trying to start a web host from your own home PLUS a dialup ISP. :confused: This takes an incredible large amount of work and although it looks like you a very bright when it comes to all of this, you probably should just start REAL small. Just my 2 cents. :D

I am always thinging of new things to do, money is the limit!

Don't mean to be rude, but if you have to ask all these questions, then it is most likely not a smart idea to start up a company.

I tried to imply the same thing, inogenius. However, you have to start somewhere. Kyle is starting by asking these questions. :D

If you are really stuck on the @home hosting deal. You will DEFINATELY need a T-1. To get more specific on the Water Hose Topic...

T-1(Large) hose, you own the entire hose, and can use as much water as the hose can support(1.5mps).

ADSL(Small) hose, you own the entire hose, however the more people using water, the less power you have :)

First off starting a dialup ISP is a losing proposition. The dialup market has tapered off. Its holding steady, or declining in most areas.

You would need a PRI to go to your portmaster. All the lines in the PRI would need to hunt. You would also need a radius server of some kind to authenticate your users, plus you would need mail, and web, and newsgroup servers. On top of all this, you would need a lot of IP space, so you would need an ASN number from ARIN.

This isn't a small little project that you can setup in a weekend. There are some serious costs and work ahead of you.

If you want to sell dialup, setup a reseller plan with a larger ISP and then when you have the users to justify setting up your own POPs then do it. Most ISPs call it a realm account. Just be sure that you own your customers.

Also...

Most ADSL providers provide about 128k up. :) That's a _lot_ less than a T-1 (By a factor of 10 or 12) and for hosting, you don't really care about the downlink as much as the uplink.

- James

This seems like a situation where if you have to ask, then you shouldn't be doing.

Also, most residential ADSL providers don't offer static IP addresses. DHCP wouldn't work too well if you were doing your own hosting. It can be done, don't get me wrong but it's more of a hassle if you don't have static.

If you're going to host your customers in your house on an ADSL line, just make sure you let your customers know that. Don't try to tell them that they're web site is hosted in some state of the art data center with redundant cooling systems, raised floors, Halon/Inergen fire supression system, redundant diesel generators, a room full of batteries, surveilance system, and redundant fiber connections to multiple Internet backbones.

PS: I want one of those 8Mbps ADSL lines. :)

I have to agree that although you may be good at coming up with ways to make money, you might want to hire a tech to figure out if you want to build your own infrastructure or use someone else's.