This isn't really a question of my own, just a question I would like to ask in general...

Well, first I would like to ask are there really any big or little hassles one (a US citizen) must take when purchasing a web hosting account from a company based in a different country (other than the US)??

And if there are, are they worth going through to purchase an international web hosting account?

I really have no experience with international web hosting companies, so I don't really know the first thing about this. :rolleyes:

It doesn't really make a difference except that it can be difficult to take legal action against a company in another country. But hey, it can be difficult to do that in another state too.

The key thing is to check out a company to ensure that it is legitimate and reliable.

Of course, it may be hard to look up information on companies that are international. :D

Make sure you are able to contact them before you buy.

More important, make sure they know english and that they can give support when you need it (time diffrence).

I am a litlle bit in it.

Generally US located companies are always better solution than others. Here are few reasons:

- location(ping) are better for customers/visitors who coming generally from US.

- prices are lower for the same standard,

- no language misunderstandings,

- the same time zone (updates, tickets etc),

- generally better standards of services.


... not at all but .. mostly.

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I know european hosting companies working with one 2Mbps to 14Mbps connection claiming themself as a "international higest standard". .... yeah - a lot of them are still have open relay servers.

How amazingly arrogant!

Better standards of service? Oh please! Wasn't cyberwings an American company? (as an example). There are good and bad hosting companies in all countries of the world.

I'm quite confident in saying that America does not hold obsolute power over the web, and indeed hosting.

If a company provides a quality of service, in terms of uptime, tech support, and customer satisfaction, what difference does it make, where the company is from?

I'm in Australia, my servers are in America, does that then mean that as an Australian my services are less "worthy"? If my uptime, and service levels fall then my customers leave me, simple as that. If they like what I offer they stay, likewise just as simple.

Flame me if you wish, but when I see pathetic generalisations like the one above, I'm more than happy to wear that.

Originally posted by reseller
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I'm quite confident in saying that America does not hold obsolute power over the web, and indeed hosting.


I'm in Australia, my servers are in America
Flame me if you wish, but when I see pathetic generalisations like the one above, I'm more than happy to wear that.

What can I say... .
Read again carefully. Try to catch my previous post wasn't generalisation.

When somebody using argum "ad personam" it is not about the person he talk to but about him.

... and one more. I feel u don't like US. Then why you using anAmerican located server?

reseller, yes it is amazingly arrogant, and ignorant to boot.
I see this all the time on this forum, and it is totally disgusting.
And if someone doesn't speak fluent english they are flamed.
Is this board for the USA only or what?

Montana, I am a American, but there is a world out there besides the USA.


smidwap, there are very good international web hosts, reseller is one of them.

By the way, what country is Cyberwings from? :laugh:

ShagHost :smokin:

Originally posted by Montana


- generally better standards of services.



<snort> :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: <snort>

Please!!!

This remark is insane!!! The standard of services is ONLY related to the individual country as each country has its own expectations on service and how services should work.

I for one know that if I want cheaper hosting costs I will host in the US, if I want HIGH quality ping rates I will host in Australia, I also will look at where my clients target market is before purchasing a hosting solution.

But to be fair, generally the US is better than anywhere else for sub standard hosting, for high premium hosting I would look locally.

Originally posted by Montana


What can I say... .
Read again carefully. Try to catch my previous post wasn't generalisation.

When somebody using argum "ad personam" it is not about the person he talk to but about him.

... and one more. I feel u don't like US. Then why you using anAmerican located server?

I have nothing against America or Americans. What I do object to is your presumption that American based companies are the only one's worth while when it comes to hosting with.

My servers may be in America, but I'm not, therefore my company isn't.

I think Montana stated this because there are many more web hosts in America than in other countries. Becuase of this, you will find more 'good' hosts in America then in other countries. However, that does not mean the percentage of total web hosts to good hosts is better in America. In fact, it is probably worse considering the market is much larger.

- location(ping) are better for customers/visitors who coming generally from US.

truth or not? (visitors who coming generally from US as wrote above)


- prices are lower for the same standard,

wrong???? - then gimme and address of European webhosting company (servers located in Europe) where my 100 bucks can buy the same what for example fastservers offers.


- no language misunderstandings,

"cad yau tall agin deer klient what are you pain?" LOL
(of course, of course there are others out there and I agree that best solution to avoid the problems is to have provider using somebodys national language).
then, truth or not?


- the same time zone (updates, tickets etc),

when my visitors are from US and Europe American time zone(s) is(are) pros not cons.


- generally better standards of services.

What country have greater network (redundancy)? In what country a competition between network/hosting companies is harder than in US? Where the technology is on the top? And last but not least: where are the biggest money to move running and growing that and other business? In Russia??? ;)

I don't negate other countries standard of services expecially in a field of human support but...

There are too many conditions together to beat US standards of services (not only in the meaning of support The best human support is nothing when network is down, isn't it?).
then, again: truth or not?
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I see it often: Somebody told US is OK (or maybe better). And at once 25% of Americans feel quilty.
Personally - I hate it.

:)

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thanx smidwap. :)
(I feel that the percentage you mentioned when we consider America vs world will be in plus for America.) ;)

Montana -

You are actually being quite a bit prejudice. I think instead of just saying the US has the best hosts, I would do a host-by-host inspection, without looking at which country they are from. You might find the majority from the US, but you will also find they are from other countries to.

Where the heck did you get the fact America has far more webhosting companies that other countries?

As far as ping goes, it is not that relevant when it comes to web hosting.

Especially since most users are on 56k (or less) modem dialup and would hardly even notice a diffrence.

Uh - small misunderstanding.
Of course there are in US not US servers/network companies.
But they are still here and use US networki infrastructure and business methods and take part in competitions here not there. More - I don't think so all their workers aren't US citizens.

My intention is not to blame any other country or person or abroad company. I just want to told - nowhere on whole world aren't better conditions for network business than in US.

Maximilian: smidwap wrote "However, that does not mean the percentage of total web hosts to good hosts is better in America"

and my answer was exactly about that, not about you wrote: "America has far more webhosting companies that other countries".

Try to use hosts in former easteuropean countries. Or in India where isp companies blocking one each other.

I don't mean this in a derogetory way at all, I'm just curious, but Montana I have 3 quick questions for you:

1. Do you live in America?
2. Is English your native language?
3. Do you own a web hosting business?

I ask this, because while feverishly proclaiming all thing are fabulous in America, your written english is at times, difficult to understand. Hence the reason I ask if English is your native language. If not, and you have a hosting business, how do you handle customer tech support?

If you're not in America, and own a hosting comany, again how do you handle tech support? Do you cater to the world market or do you specialise in your country of origin?

I wanted to ask the same question...Maybe Montana just types fast? :eek:

For now the best hosting companies I see are from the U.S., Australia and the UK. Maybe the population is an important factor. Don´t know from Asia or Africa. The ones in Latin America and Spain are too expensive, but must have good service.

Remember the language is a barrier. Some servers and hosting companies may be totally translated on thier native languages, so it won´t be in english. These sites are for local clients.

You have to consider timezone too.

I don't mean this in a derogetory way at all, I'm just curious, but Montana I have 3 quick questions for you:


again "ad personam" questions.

Try to negate facts I wrote in my previous post. :cool:

I don't think you boys do it on derogetory way. I'm just see you can't beat me ;) . Maybe time is to grow up. (it WAS "ad personam") :D


EOT and good night

It's not an attack on the person. Some of your arguements were based on language barriers being a major factor in proclaiming American hosting companies as being the best. You also said that language barriers is a reason why tech support might be difficult. In saying all this, often your written language is difficult to understand.

Not personally attacking you at all, just curious as to how you can on one hand say non-native english speaking hosts are bad, while it appears at least that you are a non-native english speaker yourself.

Therefore I am negating facts written in previous posts.

Examples:

More important, make sure they know english and that they can give support when you need it (time diffrence).
no language misunderstandings,
- no language misunderstandings,

"cad yau tall agin deer klient what are you pain?" LOL
(of course, of course there are others out there and I agree that best solution to avoid the problems is to have provider using somebodys national language).
then, truth or not?

I wasn't aware this was a competiton where there was a winner, or someone being "beaten" I thought it was a discussion.

Maybe time is to grow up.

Sorry? What was that about making things personal? By the way I'm well and truely grown :D

End of topic? Possibly a good idea, although I wasn't aware things ended on your say so :)

Originally posted by Montana
Where the technology is on the top?


Look at US stock market

generally better standards of services
Are you kidding?
We manage all our hosting sites from Russia and I know, that our service can't be compared with service provided by 90% of US based hosts.

Do you know Netsol.com (horror_stories) (http://www.nsihorrorstories.com)? (US Company) :stickout

Do you remember Cyberwings (US company)? :stickout

Well, well, well!

The usual WHT arguments!

I feel compelled to say some thing because I am from the "rest of the world" .

I have about 50% of my clients from US. My servers are in US. I am in India, my 3 staff are 100% in India.

So far none of my customers have complained.. if anything they just rave about my service. I have one customer from Ojai, California, who has hosted 7 sites with me.. and every month he brings me 2 customers.

And every email he signs off with

Your Friend,
Doug

He is All American, has no problems with my English and is more than happy with my email support.

I do majority of the support.. I have a day job and sleep a minumum of 7 hours a day, spend time with my family, provide only email support and still ALL my clients are happy.

My business plan is to buy quality servers that are cheap [from US] technically excellent engineers that are cheap [from India] and Clients who would pay in $ and pounds and Euros.

I have no parochial instincts.. it just makes business sense thats all! :)

I remember 10 years back , when I met a few Americans they didn't know where Madras is. Today a lot of my friends and customers write "Namaste" in their mail! :) [which btw is means greetings in Sanskrit]

Every country has the best of people and the worst of people.

How can you make a general statement about a quarter billion people [US] much less a whopping billion + people [India or China] ?

It's like a few Martians landing in New York and then seeing the traffic and hurry and going back to Mars and write " Earthians are a species of constatnly moving creatures.. they are always going in a hurry and often do not know where they are going. I have observed one Earthian going forward and backward in a metallic vehicle with4 wheels driving it from point A to point B and then back and then forward and then back and at the end of the day parking it in Point A before going to sleep. It is my scientific theory that Earthians need to be moving to be alive. It would be intersting to study their basic metabolism and anotomy .. blah blah!"

Well I would like to make a generalised statement: all generalisations are wrong if not false!

Cheers
Balaji