We know this for month's allready and we are surprised most of you obviously didn't. Since Sean let loose something about this in another thread I can share with you 'some' links about this story.

http://www.geocities.com/johnathanrgalt/
http://uk.geocities.com/johnathanrgalt/Letter_To_ISP_of_Azzam_com.html
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/682991/posts
http://www.americasvoices.org/archives/ReynaldsJ/ReynaldsJ_051702.htm
https://www.synapsenow.com/synapse/homepage/view.cfm?edit_id=37&website=israelfacts.org

Do a search for burst on the pages and you will see that what Sean said is true.
There is more but some of it was taken down earlier.

We sadly also suffered from this and there is a lot to say about it but we just hope it all made a difference.
:bawling: :angry:

Domenico

Looking at the website http://www.taliban-news.com (which is linked there) ...it seems to be pro-Taliban and anti-America. Doing a whois shows they belong to the same person that operates http://www.meemsites.com/ ...a WHT forum member. :eek:

Originally posted by Kiwi
Looking at the website http://www.taliban-news.com (which is linked there) ...it seems to be pro-Taliban and anti-America. Doing a whois shows they belong to the same person that operates http://www.meemsites.com/ ...a WHT forum member. :eek:

Just curious -- how did you figure out that those two were related? Had you done a whois on meemsites.com in the past, and just recognized it when doing a whois on taliban-news.com?

I hope there could be a authority that could control this.

There are many hosts out there that only want money and have no ethics.

Originally posted by Kiwi
http://www.taliban-news.com

...hosted by burst.net :(

Woah... and their nuke theme is a site/layout copy of DeviantArt.com (v1); never authorized by DevART either.

Originally posted by ForumsAddict
I hope there could be a authority that could control this.

There are many hosts out there that only want money and have no ethics.

I guess you didn't got the whole picture.
Everything is monitored by secret services and everybody knows that. In fact, they are allowed to be hosted by USA hosts so the monitoring is easier obviously. :)

Burst had to cooperate with the FBI and also explains the many attacks from the opposing party and others worldwide.

Originally posted by FDrive


Just curious -- how did you figure out that those two were related? Had you done a whois on meemsites.com in the past, and just recognized it when doing a whois on taliban-news.com?

There's a meemsites banner ad in their rotation, I'm assuming that's how.

You know, I think that this stuff should be left to the government to handle. Report stuff you see to the authorities and follow up with them but all this righteous indignation and campaigns by untrained private vigilantes is counter productive.

Too many just want to rant and rave about terrorism and get personal recognition for what their doing to help fight "the war on terror."

Give it up. It all gets a little tiresome.

Call the authorities, follow up with them and let the pros handle it. You know, If I found out that a client of mine was a terrorist or came to know such information about a terrorst organization I'd simply report it to the authorities and let them decide how to proceed not try to have the thang shut down on my own.

Its so difficult to find out the odd one out especially for the large hosts, those who are operated through automated softwares. A large host may have few chances to find out until somebody reports it.

Then there are some companies that support these organizations. If i were a alqaida network member and had my own server, no one could stop me from hosting such sites. Thats where the prob starts. There should be a solid organization that should keep track of such websites OR may be FBI/CIA despite of knowing the facts still want them to run to gain valuable info.

Originally posted by OneOfThem
You know, I think that this stuff should be left to the government to handle. Report stuff you see to the authorities and follow up with them but all this righteous indignation and campaigns by untrained private vigilantes is counter productive.

Too many just want to rant and rave about terrorism and get personal recognition for what their doing to help fight "the war on terror."

Give it up. It all gets a little tiresome.

Call the authorities, follow up with them and let the pros handle it. You know, If I found out that a client of mine was a terrorist or came to know such information about a terrorst organization I'd simply report it to the authorities and let them decide how to proceed not try to have the thang shut down on my own.

Ehm, wake up, the pro's are handling it...
Talking about Pro's, I just have seen the movie about the true story of the WTC bombing a couple of years ago. Pro's ?
But this is another story and I'm sure many people are doing there best they can to fight these kind of people. Back to the topic please...

Domenico

Wake up? :confused:

Listen, I'm aware of what's going on. If you read the stuff in the links that have already been posted or a lot of what is being posted on line you'll see a lot of non pros all over this. They're hounding ISPs and anyone else they can think of. Heck, if you sold a candy bar to someone who one of these vigilantes thought was a terrorist you'd get flamed by these people. That kind of involvement by 'Bubba from Wisconsin' doesn't help anyone.

And that was on topic. Burst was being pursued by these people. They demanded answers as if they had authority to get any. I'm sure that if the situation was reported to the CIA/FBI that they will deal with it in a suitable manner and Bubba should call them to make sure they're doing thier job.

BTW WHT was bombed??? No way when? :)

I'm sure that if the situation was reported to the CIA/FBI that they will deal with it in a suitable manner and Bubba should call

agreed!

Originally posted by FDrive


Just curious -- how did you figure out that those two were related? Had you done a whois on meemsites.com in the past, and just recognized it when doing a whois on taliban-news.com?

1. Meemsites.com banner on the top of taliban-news.com
2. Whois information is exactly the same on both meemsites.com and taliban-news.com

Originally posted by OneOfThem
[B]I'm sure that if the situation was reported to the CIA/FBI that they will deal with it in a suitable manner

What are you talking about here? They were allready there.

I know that, silly :stickout
It's just that usually WHT means Web Hosting Talk around here, no? Just a little ha ha.

Re: the other thing. I don't feel like repeating myself but I know they were already there. I'm just saying that the involvement of amateurs in national security issues (not reporting and following up, but all the other stuff) is just tiresome, counterproductive and can have a negative societal effect.

I've reported this thread again to the mods for it to be deleted.

....let's keep all "terrorism talk" to whatever we hear on the news and keep it in the lounge. If you know of something, call your FBI office or US Embassy and let them handle it, no need to spark attention here.

I say again,

For the love of FREEDOM do not reply.

Originally posted by OneOfThem
I know that, silly :stickout
It's just that usually WHT means Web Hosting Talk around here, no? Just a little ha ha.

Yeah, just corrected it. pfff. hehe

Originally posted by akashd
I've reported this thread again to the mods for it to be deleted.

....let's keep all "terrorism talk" to whatever we hear on the news and keep it in the lounge. If you know of something, call your FBI office or US Embassy and let them handle it, no need to spark attention here.

I say again,

For the love of FREEDOM do not reply.

Well, it was meant to shed a light over the attacks on burst.net the last couple of months. Not everybody knows about this and Burst must keep their mouth shut I believe.

Originally posted by Domenico


Well, it was meant to shed a light over the attacks on burst.net the last couple of months. Not everybody knows about this and Burst must keep their mouth shut I believe.

What are you smoking lol...

Originally posted by akashd
....let's keep all "terrorism talk" to whatever we hear on the news...

Yeah, cause the news is the truth, right? Whatever...

Originally posted by OneOfThem


Yeah, cause the news is the truth, right? Whatever...

I never said it was the truth....:rolleyes:

Akash,

If you think a thread doesn't belong; report it.

Originally posted by akashd


I never said it was the truth....:rolleyes:

Yeah I know you didn't say that :rolleyes: I didn’t say you did. But saying that we should limit the terrorist discussion to what we here in the news kind of suggest that now doesn't it?

Obviously there are other sources of information that are valid, including the net, one's own experience and the testimony of others.

I don't think that we should limit what we talk about as long as it is within the realm of truth and what is productive. I do think that we have to limit our attacks on others, leave judgment to the judges and national security enforcement to the government.

And although Dominico and I don't see eye to eye on everything, I also think that reporting this thread was a little bit of overkill and reminiscent of the type of civilian extremism that I was talking about in the first place.

Originally posted by Samuel


What are you smoking lol...

I don't smoke. :)
Anyways, what is so funny?

OneOfThem, I think we see eye to eye on civilian extremism. I'm also not one of them types. This post was to explain the DoS attacks on Burst.

Not funny, you stated you knew information about burst " Not everybody knows about this and Burst must keep their mouth shut I believe."

Thats funny

Hosting hate, but they have a good reason, please...

akashd - you're a nag. its called freedom of speech quick question are you islamic?

Originally posted by Samuel
Not funny, you stated you knew information about burst " Not everybody knows about this and Burst must keep their mouth shut I believe."

Thats funny

Hosting hate, but they have a good reason, please...

I still don't get it but me having an IQ of 75 and living in Europe doesn't help much I guess.

that might domenico lol jk. ya umm hosting hate?

Dominico, OIC, I didn't get that from your original post. And you view the DOS on Brust as a bad thing, right?

Samuel, When someone signs up for hosting I don't know what they're going to post until it's up (if then), or someone tells us about it. If you don't have the details about the particular situation I really don't think it is right to label their company in that way.

Interactive, What are you going on about? So what if akashd is Islamic or anything else? What does that have to do with akashd 's belief in freedom of speech?

Originally posted by interactive
Akash - you're a nag. its called freedom of speech quick question are you islamic?

Thanks :rolleyes:

But we've had (as far as I can remember, 4 of these threads already), each of them being closed, or moved. Each time people just end up posting links to websites that contain Al Qaeda propaganda, which IMO, is inappropriate for the forum.

The problem I have with this specific thread is that it should be in the lounge; maybe I was wrong in saying that it should be closed as the content of this thread is a little further away from Al Qaeda than the others.

Your answer to your "quick question:" No, what would make you think that I am?

Didn't you see why these links were posted ?
I really don't think you have read the first post very well. :confused:

akashd - just wondering cause of your name. and your complaint no offense

Originally posted by interactive
Akash - just wondering cause of your name. and your complaint no offense

None taken :)

Like I said, maybe I was wrong to complain so publicly, but every time a thread like this pops up, it just goes downhill (I've seen about 4 on WHT, and countless others on all the other forums I frequent).

It gets to the point where people start arguing "Oh those damn Muslims just have to ruin everything" and I hate stereotypical and close-minded views like that. I even met a lady (when I was working in retail selling printers) that blamed the horrible Chicago weather on the terrorists - her arguement: "If it wasn't for them damn islams the stock market would be up and it wouldn't be raining cats and dogs outside." Note that this was in January when rain should really be snow...and she's complaining :rolleyes: