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View Full Version : CyberTrust Certificates Reduced even further to $15!!
dynamitehost 08-18-2002, 07:48 AM Hi,
I have reduced the asking price even further.
For a limited time only I can offer CyberTrust certificates for only $15 each, or free for non-profit organisations.
These normally cost $99 from CyberTrust.
Please reply, pm, IM or email me if you would like one.
http://www.cybertrust.net
1. I will need contact information, eg name, address, email, telephone, domain etc
2. The whois info on the domain has to match the info you give me.
3. You will need to have a privacy policy on your website. Contact me if you need instructions.
I can accept payment via paypal.
I hope you enjoy this great deal I am offering to you.
Thanks.
seg fault 08-18-2002, 09:30 AM Site seals? wow!
dynamitehost 08-18-2002, 09:38 AM If you don't like the idea please don't have a go at me, I am merely a reseller to a company with many satisfied customers.
Please give them your sarcastic feedback.
Their email is: info@cybertrust.net
seg fault 08-18-2002, 09:39 AM I don't understand the point of them to be honest
dynamitehost 08-18-2002, 09:44 AM Read through the information on the CyberTrust web site.
If you don't see the point, its ok, i'm not forcing you or anyone else to buy one.
ddesigns 08-18-2002, 10:25 AM Many companies sell these. They are just a way to let your visitors know that you take the proper precautions to protect their privacy and that you are who you say you are. We (CyberTrust Resellers) verify your identity and match it against your domain's WHOIS and contact info on your website. You must supply a faxed document proving your identity. I don't see what the big deal is about this. Hosticle, you don't even have a website listed, so you have no reason to be interested in these. This was just an offer, and if you don't like it, don't say anything. It seems everyone and his uncle gets flamed at for making an offer. Go bitch at someone else. Just my $0.02
cyberlot 08-18-2002, 10:43 AM Your asking people to pay you $15 a year for what? A little image to put on there site..
The site itself has no certification of its own, Isnt a member of any of the major supporters of privacy/trust online that I can see, And the website is general is weak when it comes to information provided.
You don't even have a phone number/address.. Any FAQ's about your policys, methods/reasons to dispute a site.. ..
I mean really.. Take a look at the REAL solutions out there ( Not that I approve of these either but still..
http://www.bbb.com/
http://www.etrust.com/
These are prob the 2 most known that I can think of.. Compared to them your website is a joke, A void of information...
Compared to those your website looks like a scam to get money out of paranoid webmasters.
cyberlot 08-18-2002, 10:45 AM Oh and dropping your price from $99 to $15 looks even fishier...
To me it sounds like
"No one took the first hook we tossed out lets keep lowering our price till get find stupid fish that will take the bait"
If your product was worth anything at all there would be no need to drop the price soooo low.
dynamitehost 08-18-2002, 10:54 AM
seg fault 08-18-2002, 11:17 AM It's not the design of a site that makes a company reputable, it is the quality of the service.
dynamitehost 08-18-2002, 11:20 AM
allera 08-18-2002, 11:39 AM Originally posted by dynamitehost
Cyberlot, you have 7 posts to your name. You are in no position to call people con artists or any other variant there of (i.e scammers etc).
And you are? What does post-count have to do with the price of tea in China? Similarly, what does post-count have to do with intelligence or comment rights?
I hate comments like that.
dynamitehost 08-18-2002, 11:39 AM
AL-Benjamin 08-18-2002, 11:43 AM cyberlot, this really isn't the place for these coments. if you don't agree with this type of service, fair enough. don't flame anothers adverts though.
dynamitehost 08-18-2002, 11:45 AM
cyberlot 08-18-2002, 12:07 PM My post count has no bearing on my "knowledge" in this industry and by trying to use it as such is childish.
A company that lets is resellers undercut it by 85% has a problem somewhere.
True verifcation of a business is going to cost more then $15 in most cases.. To me just calling a person up and saying "Hey are you Joe Blow" Is not verification worth a nickle.
While site design does not make a business it does reflect apon that business.. Quote from there website 3. Must have valid "Contact Information" on your website. When I am dealing with a true business valid contact information is more then just a email address.. I want a phone number, I want address.. This company is saying it can offer people the feeling of trust in your website.. To do so they must offer the feeling of trust in there own website.. I feel there website does not do this.
While you may feel the designs of the site I mentioned are bad, They pass on alot more information and "trust" in there website. There websites convey a feeling of "effort" The cybertrust website conveys a feeling of "Im a person working from my kitchen table at home"
Not agreeing with a service is one thing, and while yes I don't agree with the service I feel I have brought forth VERY valid points why ANY webmaster should stay away from this site in general and also possible things to look for before doing business with any site. Hence I feel this was very much in the spirit of these forums.
Yes the cheapest etrust seal costs $399. And I think it is overpriced.. However compare there website to cybertrust... Which one gives details about the company. Which one has very detailed contact information. Which one looks professional. Which one shows proof of being a real legally formed company. Which one has Industry partners that any normal person has heard about.
1. So Overall I did read the site
2. You don't have to pay $50 for a "pet rock" to have the right to call "pet rocks" a scam.. Same applys here.
3. It is within the right of anyone to warn people of anything that might possibly be fraud or a total waste of money...
cyberlot 08-18-2002, 12:09 PM One last thing.. IF I where the owner of CyberTrust and I was 100% legit I would WELCOME any comments that where valid/might help me improve my business.
I stated a number of very good points that should be covered/looked into on there website...
If I where CyberTrust I would look at this as a way to improve there service.
dynamitehost 08-18-2002, 12:22 PM
The Prohacker 08-18-2002, 01:44 PM Originally posted by dynamitehost
Well stop flaming me and flame CyberTrust instead. I have already given you their email address.
I don't want to waste any more time talking to you, I could be doing better things with my time, i.e giving support to my hostees and working on my site.
As I have said before, if you don't like what i am offering STAY AWAY, NO ONE IS MAKING YOU BUY ANYTHING.
Good Day.
He's not flamming you... He actually has a right to if he wanted too... Because how you talked down to him..
Frankly, I look at your actions and see you as acting childish, and majorly immature..
I love the STAY AWAY comment, mark of a true salesman :D Going for employee of the year?????
CTBarbara 08-18-2002, 06:19 PM Hello,
actually i work directly for CYBERTRUST.NET (not as reseller) and i think i need to say something too ;)
CYBERTRUST.NET does NOT sell any seals or services for 15 $. Our resellers can choose whatever price they want to charge because that's not our business.
Our resellers have to buy a seal for much more than 15 $ because the administration is not a "kittchen job".
Since our resellers get sometimes a "promotion package" for free they can promote their services as much as they want. They can even give their seals away for free - it's not our business.
If somebody doesn't like the idea of this service just ignore it. As soon as we assign SSL certs people will see that they can get the same quality for much less (for example a SSL cert wil cost from 55 - 99 $ /2 years)
Timeline: As soon as our cert is included to MS Internet Explorer and Netscape (not up to us)
Actually we also plan to launch a service similar to paypal but 100 % secure for sellers and buyers but i cannot tell much about this.
The only thing i know is that the pricing for all "seals" and "certs" will change soon because Verisign is NOT the company which can do everything they want if the topic is "TRUST" , "SECURITY" and "VERIFICATION".
Regards
Barbara Moore
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