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NeonRider
03-14-2008, 01:06 PM
I would like to suggest two things:

1. Allow unlimited time editing. Sometimes we would post something and then later we'd like to edit it or even erase. For example when emotions set high or things fail no matter what is the cause sometimes people tend to make emotional posts and then later some of them regret and want to edit the contents. For example some people bash hosts, later on they think the host does not deserve it and want to edit the post. Too late. Why not allow unlimited editing?

2. Perhaps you should pre-post-moderate some posts which you think may be inappropriate. For example the one that called KnownHost a scam. I would not allow such accusations in my forums. Even my own posts, if I become emotional (or drunk, mental etc.) and want to use bad language I would expect you to stop me and let me think before my post sees the light.

AH-Tina
03-14-2008, 01:21 PM
That's what the "REPORT" button is for. :)

--Tina

the_pm
03-14-2008, 01:41 PM
Why not allow unlimited editing?Because editing a post hours or days later will usually result in the thread context being changed significantly and an entire thread's worth of discussion could be rendered useless.

With a fixed editing time, it forces people to think before they post, or, it makes people accountable for not thinking first. If someone's out of line or rude, other members can always report the post and moderators can take whatever actions are necessary, if any.

Rather than ruin an entire thread with one edit, it makes much more sense for someone to make reparations by posting an update to the thread. You can't rewind the clock and not say something you've already said in real life. And you can't do it here either :)

Perhaps you should pre-post-moderate some posts which you think may be inappropriate.But how can we know which posts to pre-moderate unless the post has been made? ;)

Like Tina said, if there's a problematic post, report it. If the moderators agree it is problematic, appropriate action will be taken.

Outlaw Web Master
03-14-2008, 02:23 PM
Can you imagine the chaos and havoc in the hosting forums regarding posters complaining about a company's downtime, lack of support or fraud posts if the timescale to edit a post was more than 15 mintes lol ?

Posts and replies get can get hammered out in there faster than bigmac meals get served at MacDonalds on a busy Saturday afternoon.

It doesn't even bare thinking about :)

owm

AmyWilliams
03-14-2008, 03:41 PM
Write-up your post, take a 5 minute coffee break, come back. If you still feel the same way, go ahead and hit that submit button. I usually find that 5 minutes of rational thought is all that's needed to not make regrettable decisions.

RajanUrs
03-14-2008, 05:16 PM
But how can we know which posts to pre-moderate unless the post has been made? ;)


Maybe set up a board committee and hold more board meeting discussions like this one before approving a post.:D

anon-e-mouse
03-14-2008, 05:50 PM
As someone who moderates new posts on another forum, I can tell you it would be extremely time consuming on this forum, which has a lot more new signups per day. Not to mention all the threads (which also have to be moderated) asking why their posts don't show up :D

The Dude
03-14-2008, 06:05 PM
VBB 3.7 allows a log to be kept of all changes to a post,if you wanna see what the original was,all you do is click a couple links and you can see it.....

Maybe if and when we upgrade to 3.7 it wouldnt be such a big deal Jan.

Alex
03-14-2008, 06:18 PM
VBB 3.7 allows a log to be kept of all changes to a post,if you wanna see what the original was,all you do is click a couple links and you can see it.....

Maybe if and when we upgrade to 3.7 it wouldnt be such a big deal Jan.






But then a moderator would have to go back and change all these posts which have been edited, and there's no way to prevent a user from editing a post in vb 3.7 IIRC. If you need a post edited, report it and a moderator will get to it as soon as possible. That's really the best solution. :)


Alex

Cody Salter
03-14-2008, 08:34 PM
As for the prepost moderation.

Maybe a thing could be considered is thread tags? (the 3.7 version)

So if the thread uses the review tag and the user has under 5 posts or something, the thread is submitted for moderation before being available to the public, that way they can verify it before letting members comment on it.

The Dude
03-14-2008, 09:24 PM
But then a moderator would have to go back and change all these posts which have been edited, and there's no way to prevent a user from editing a post in vb 3.7 IIRC. If you need a post edited, report it and a moderator will get to it as soon as possible. That's really the best solution. :)No the MEMBER can see the original post,all changes to a post are kept in a log for that reply.....

Say its edited 5 times by the poster,ALL 5 EDITS ARE KEPT ON FILE,any member can go back and see all those edits (Including the original)

Thats what i was talking about my friend :)

Dan L
03-15-2008, 01:18 AM
Another problem with removing the time limit is that moderator edits could be undone by a user.

The Dude
03-15-2008, 07:56 PM
On most sites if that is done,a warning is issued (Equal to 5 points if i remember right)

anon-e-mouse
03-15-2008, 09:31 PM
We don't have the time or the man/woman power to go over all posts we have edited to see who replaced what was edited. The time limit won't be removed.

hekwu
03-15-2008, 10:38 PM
I can't think of one site that has unlimited time limits for changing a post... not the ones I visit anyway... that would be a lot of work for the mods and forum members attempting to figure out why one person said something or reacted in a certain way.

Far as pre-moderation, I think this site gives plenty of leeway on members... of course sometimes things go overboard, but it is all in good fun... this is a forum, not real life. :D

The Dude
03-16-2008, 01:11 AM
Im on quite a few sites that dont have limits for editing....

Its a good thing not to because if you wanna update the link in your post for example you can w/o bothering the staff.. (Sometimes in my game threads the links go down and i feel bad asking the staff to change the link for me... I could easily do it myself and not bother them)

thomase
03-16-2008, 01:48 PM
I think it would be hard to set it so that only certain thread types are easy to edit though. Maybe just post a new link further on, if a games link didn't work I'd usually scroll down to see the "it doens't work" posts, then find a link which does work :P

Harzem
03-16-2008, 01:57 PM
The time limit of edit is what keeps these forums a reliable source of information about hosts.

Imagine what would happen if a host goes down. All previous threads start being edited, bashing the host, even if that host wasn't that bad at those times.

Edit time should stay there.

As for the pre-moderation. Do you know how many posts are made on WHT in a single day? :eek:

anon-e-mouse
03-16-2008, 06:00 PM
As for the pre-moderation. Do you know how many posts are made on WHT in a single day? :eek:
Way too many for us to even read much less pre moderate :D

MikeWalczak
03-16-2008, 06:14 PM
Yeah I don't think the OP realizes that we have thousands of new posts everyday lol. We are just volunteers with lives away from WHT, please dont kill us with work! ;)