http://www.rapidcolo.com/colocation/

http://www.serverhost.com/colo.html
http://www.burst.net/servers/

Seems to me that he copied and pasted from the Serverhost and Burst sites.

And more:

http://www.rapidcolo.com/qa/
http://www.serverhost.com/qa.html

Could you please point out what has been copied+pasted? I don't feel like reading everything just to find out about this. :stickout

The Q&A is almost word for word. The Colo page - tables and content around the tables are Serverhost - the table towards the bottom is copied almost word for word from the BurstNET site - I think it is pretty obvious.

jkehe you have to be joking here..

They are basic tables with some info in them on what we offer. These same tables have been on our site for well over 12 months. They have been the same tables since the design of the site a year ago.

Now as for the QA they it is a little close and i will make some changes to that. But it for sure did not come from your site as far as I know. All i did was copy every thing over to our new design about 3 weeeks ago. Anther designer put all the content and laid out 12 months ago. Nothing has really ever changed at least not that I know.

But I will make sure its not close at all now I for sure don't want it to look close to yours..

Just because you copied the content 12 months ago doesn't make it right. I was notified of the similarities just recently when a customer asked me if we were the same company because of how similar it looked.

Sure i under stand.. :) I am editing it now my self to make sure its not the same..

We had a sucky ass designer a year ago.. We had the same problem with Vortech when he designed that one.. I had to go back and fix all of that site as well.. :(

I really do not see the point of this post other then to start flames.

You could have contacted them direct with this matter.

What has this board come to..

Yea he could have.. :( Oh well..

Not like i wanted to copy him.. He took the time to send me 3 PM's and 2 emails and still needed to post.. I don't care flame or not.. I just want to make sure its fixed but the post was kind of use less.

The intention of this post was not to flame. I'm upset that you have been profiting off of content that we created for something like a year. That's not right, whether or not you knew about it. If you change the content, I'll request that the thread be closed. Thanks.

There are only so many ways you can make a table for bandwidth with prices and same goes for rackspace. I understand if a website was word for word.

I think rules for most webhost or colo companys are pretty much the same so even though they are worded differently, they pretty much mean the same.

ClusterMania your right we do 100% the same thing i can't change what a table does.. :( No one can all tables look the same one big square..

ClusterMania, did you even take the time to compare? Give me a break, it's a blatant rip. For example:

from serverhost:
Service
Charge

First five reboots (email dispatch)
No charge

CPanel and WebHost Manager License (per server)
$75/month

Advanced Technical Support (OS, Software, Hardware)
$175/hour

Additional reboots (over five per server)
$75/incident



from rapidcolo:
Service
Charge

First five reboots (email or phone dispatch)
No charge

H-SPHERE Control Panel (50 licenses at 2.50 each)**
$125/ One Time

H-SPHERE Control Panel (50 licenses at 4.00 each)***
$200/ One Time

Advanced Technical Support (OS, Software, Hardware)
$125/ hour

Additional reboots (over five per server per month)
$75/ incident

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The format is exactly the same as well.

Don't even get me started on the burst.net copy. Acting like "oh, there's only so many ways you can present this type of information..."... you must think we're all idiots? Talk about unethical. What a way to do business.

While it should have been handled in private, this whole denial with RapidColo saying 'you must be joking'.... dude, you've been caught red handed. Be man enough to stand up and admit you made a mistake, fix it, and move on.

My $0.02,

Brandon

Brandon
If he would of emailed me would of been diff.

Plus i did not do the design the site. We had a designer last year the took a lot of ppl **** and made a lot of truble for us. We have since been trying to find every thing we can and fix it. So you can keep your 0.02. Just do a search you will see we had the same problem on vortech from the same designer it has since been fixed.

Brandon
Can we not reboot a server now and charge for it?

I have to agree with Jeffrey here. Matrix Reseller is another company of Vortech, i believe ...and they have completely copied the text from our old design and put it on http://www.matrixreseller.com/plans/index.php and just simply replaced 'CPanel' with 'H-Sphere', etc. This text came from no other website but ours, because i wrote it myself. Not to mention another 'ripped design' issue with yet another one of their websites way back on which the designer was blamed as well.

Vortech, the 'designer did it' story is becoming old. If you didn't change your designer for a year even after at least 3 clear rips, it is your fault. Anyone may believe that its the designer's fault for once, but not so many times.

I'd suggest you stop with this and come up with your own designs or you'll find yourself with much bigger problems that just a complaint in a public forum. :disagree:

Can we not reboot a server now and charge for it? Huh? :homer:

Why are you trying to blow smoke up everyone's butt? You can charge whatever you darn well please to reboot a server... but the page you put those reboot fees on better not be a ripped clone of another provider's own price list, or you're going to look like a schmuck.

I get sick and tired of individuals who don't take responsibility for their operations. Quit whining about your web designer, admit it shouldn't have been there, and commit to rectify the situation ASAP. If you want to go back and forth with me about it that's fine, you're the page thief. We can keep this on top of the forum as long as you'd like.

Brandon

Just because you changed the format doesn't mean you can keep the content. Please - stop using my content!

http://support.vortechhosting.com/deskpro/upload/faq.php?cat=10

Kiwi so you have a copy right on every thing that is installed on a server now? Then you have a problem with every host out there. Get over it. **** you don't even support windows why would i even want to copy you? You have a copyright on tables? Give it up man.. MatrixReseller's page is nothing close to yours. So please give it up.. I looked at your plan pages they are not even F'ing close dude.. What ever.

The damn tables do even look close you or even come close.
http://www.matrixreseller.com/plans/index.php
http://www.mchost.com/plans/


Both vortech and RapidColo were put together by the same design RapidColo had been the same for a year up till 3 weeks ago. I more less copied the stuff over. I could care less what you believe. Also Vortech has been 100% redesigned as far as i know there is nothing left copied any where on that site.

cbtrussell what ever.. Every thing I have changed is all that is going to be changed on the site. I have never even seen serverhost so how do you know he did not copy us? Hell i don't even know that he did not copy us. I am sure you don't. But like i told him i would be happy to fix it.

Serverhost has been around since 1998 - you can look at archive.org and see similar designs dating back since 1999. Remove the content I took time to create!

Originally posted by Vortech
So please give it up.. I looked at your plan pages they are not even F'ing close dude.. What ever.

The damn tables do even look close you or even come close.
http://www.matrixreseller.com/plans/index.php
http://www.mchost.com/plans/

I clearly stated our old design, not the current one. I wouldn't say anything if you asked, but not just taking it in the moment we take it down. I'll dig up the proof on archive.org for everyone to see.

Give up and stop the content stealing. It is very clear now to everyone, you're not getting anywhere with excuses.

Kiwi, your not even in archive.org.

Originally posted by Vortech
Kiwi, your not even in archive.org.

Yeah, i thought it may be a good thing to block archive.org from indexing our website due to obvious reasons mentioned above. :rolleyes: I will unblock it, though ...give me a few hours.

Sorry, everybody hates people stealing designs and nobody will believe the same old story twice.

For readers of this thread: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15030

Kiwi maybe you are just slow..

I told you that site had not changed in over a year..

Look at the date on that post.. 07-10-2001 same designer that put vortech together did rapidcolo.com as well. No wounder it was stolen i never said that I DID IT? Because I would not. If i ever had an idea it was the same i would of changed. Why would I change it if i did not know it was the same as some else?


Vortech had the same thing I fixed the site never since a problem. This has been pointed and will be fixed.. But i am done posting here and could care less what you have to say..


jkehe if you have a problem with any thing you can email me.

I'll believe it when i see the changes. Stealing someone's design and/or content is the lowest you can go in this industry.

Kiwi its already changed for the most part. I have not gotten to the FAQ yet but the page has been changed.

You're going to have your hands full Kiwi, if you've got that trademark on "host unlimited domains". Why wouldn't you use something a bit more creative that folks could identify you with, rather than such a generic term? I'm surprised the patent office would even consider it.

Cheers

Gary

How is No limit on the domains you host LOL. Brad hasn't copied any sites to my knowledge we're the designers of MATRIX and I seen people copy them but not the other way around. A mistake is a mistake.

Originally posted by Vortech
Kiwi its already changed for the most part.

Thanks :)

cbtrussell what ever.. Every thing I have changed is all that is going to be changed on the site. I have never even seen serverhost so how do you know he did not copy us? Hell i don't even know that he did not copy us. I am sure you don't. I believe your prior record and the intellectually stimulating responses you've provided in this thread speak for themselves.

But like i told him i would be happy to fix it. Then why don't you? If you had stolen my content, I'd shut you down. But I don't have a dog in this fight, so who cares. At least be ethical enough to re-write your pricing copy in your own words, if you're capable of doing so.

Brandon

Brandon can you not read?

The page has been changed. I am not going to change prices for no one. Hell the prices are not even the same. The layout of tables is not going to change tables are tables. Some of the text there was kind of close to his that has changed.

As far as you having a dog in a fight your right you don't.. THINK GOD. Because you can't seem to read much less have a dog.

Brandon can you not read? Quite well, thank you - as the screenshots below will attest. Please note:

"anyone"
"you're"
"THANK"

Don't worry, I think they'll cover spelling and grammar in junior high - hang in there. (Hey, don't blame me, you threw up the reading comment.)

Well, since you came back for more, let's get on with the fun stuff, shall we?

I am not going to change prices for no one. Please show where I said anything about pricing being an issue. Obviously, you won't be able to do this. Talk about not being able to read. Hmmm.

The layout of tables is not going to change tables are tables. For many years all web pages were constructed primarily of only tables. Funny, none of the billion or so sites out there seemed to look the same. But let's not lose focus; are you continuing to insist that your tables were not ripped from the sites mentioned above? Please, please let me have the pleasure of getting a public reply from you on this one. LOL.

The rest of your message bores me. Since you seem to want to keep coming back for more, let's have look:

Exhibit1 shows the table issue. As all can see, the 'layout' of your table isn't the issue here.

Exhibit2 settles the who came first problem. Friend, if you're going to rip, at least be smart enough to do the job right.

GAME. SET. MATCH.

"Goodbye!"

Sorry, forgot #2.

"Exhibit2 settles the who came first problem. Friend, if you're going to rip, at least be smart enough to do the job right."

That pretty much settles it...Vortech simply chopped off the end of Burst's sentance without modifying the grammar at all. Smart :rolleyes:

When will people learn? "My designer did it!". What friggin BS. How many times have you been busted for ripping crap? How many times do you need to use the same excuse? If you have a maid and she was caught stealing diamonds from the bedroom. Do you think you would check the rest of the rooms for what else could be gone?

Another thing. I think I have seen that vortech design before or something damn close. Anyone else? Those images on the homepage in particular.

How exactly do you shut someone down for stealing content?

If it was a substantial case, and you could offer a provider (i.e. the guilty party's uplink) undisputable evidence, that uplink provider may decide to shut someone down pending further investigation.

It'd be a big call in today's climate.

Gary

You guys are a joke!! There is a big Email link under each post. If you have a problem with one of our sites use it.

UmBillyCord your comment shows how much you don't know. The designer of Vortechhosting.com is on this forum. Here's a hint, search for Tranz.

The prices and the components are not even the same on the tables. LoL Here's a thought, WE SELL THE SAME THING and the only functional way I see to lay it out is via tables.

I am through listening to this BS. If anyone thinks they have a monopoly on the use of tables or the word "either" let me know, otherwise get a clue and get over it.

Good comeback there, Vortech. How old are you, 14? Your lack of maturity in naming your designer instead of standing up and accepting responsibility speaks volumes about your character. I hope anyone considering your "company" (sic) takes note of your blatant disregard for someone else's hard work as displayed by your responses here and votes with their hard-earned dollars.

Potential clients: should you do business with someone displaying the ethics demonstrated here? If they handle such an easily rectified situation as this with complete irresponsibility, how can you have any confidence that they will treat you and your money with any respect?

Vortech, you don't deserve to be in business. Thanks for making that so clear to us all.

Brandon

PS - To WHT members - this is by far the most caustic post I've made on WHT, and I apologize ... but blatant plaugurism, and a steadfast refusal to step up to the plate and accept responsibility for it, really hacks me off. I hope this will be my last post on the subject.

If anyone thinks they have a monopoly on the use of tables or the word "either" let me know, otherwise get a clue and get over it. You're so funny. No one has a monopoly over the word 'either'... but you can have all rights to leaving it hanging on the end of a sentence because you did the world's worst rip job. You're busted dude, get lost.

The prices and the components are not even the same on the tables. LoL Here's a thought, WE SELL THE SAME THING and the only functional way I see to lay it out is via tables. **plunk**

Please continue to respond. I think having this thread at the top of the forum is going to do wonders for your business.

Brandon

Are you literate Brandon?? Obviously your comprehension skills are that of a child so let me SHOW you what was said.

UmBillyCord said:
Another thing. I think I have seen that vortech design before or something damn close. Anyone else? Those images on the homepage in particular.

NOW, I told Billy that Tranz designed vortechhosting.com, genius. I PAID him for it. Get it?? Now shut the hell up and go away. You are showing how much a lil competition frightens you.

Brandon you also said "Please continue to respond. I think having this thread at the top of the forum is going to do wonders for your business. "

You obviously don't realize any advertising is good advertising. It just shows how insecure you are to have to attack me when it is not even your site.

Have a wonderful day, lil boy.

oh my god

KISS AND MAKE UP YOU GUYS

Originally posted by Vortech
Are you literate Brandon?? Obviously your comprehension skills are that of a child so let me SHOW you what was said.

NOW, I told Billy that Tranz designed vortechhosting.com, genius. I PAID him for it. Get it?? Now shut the hell up and go away. You are showing how much a lil competition frightens you.

And you keep ignoring the fact that they've pointed out that they've proven content as been ripped.

By you saying you PAID someone to do it doesn't mean a thing. Whether they are a regular employee or contract labor.. ie. you paid for a website to be created for you, you are responsible for their actions.

If a construction company has a contract laborer that digs and busts a water line on someone's property, do you think the owner of that property is going to accept the excuse from the construction company: "but I just PAID him to dig that hole for me... it's not my fault.... tell the guy that did it to fix it"? In fact that makes the contruction company even more liable by saying it was because of THEM that the guy was there to bust the pipe in the first place.

Now I would hate to have the same thing happen to me.. but if it did.... and it could happen to any of us... the thing that would make the difference is to acknowledge what happened to make it right. No one is jumping on your for having a designer that ripped sites... I think what people are getting upset about is you're acting like it's not your fault and are actually getting offended that someone has said something to you about it.

Amusing :eek:


Anyday, anytime someone is copying sombody's design or whatever and there's no stopping.

Perhaps a copyright licence might prevent it and you can just sue the copycat.

No kerosene here, just some personal thoughts. ;)

Originally posted by BKM
Amusing :eek:


Anyday, anytime someone is copying sombody's design or whatever and there's no stopping.

Perhaps a copyright licence might prevent it and you can just sue the copycat.

No kerosene here, just some personal thoughts. ;)

Makes me want to design my site in text using latin.

Q4 2002 - Ascii Art and Latin revolution!

rastoma i know that.. All i am saying is some one else made it how would i know till some one else tells me.. Like it told serverhost i am working on changing the stuff and have done most of it already.. I want it changed as much as you guys do.

First off, none of your idiotic replies or half-wit attacks changes the fact that you are a thief.

Are you literate Brandon?? Obviously your comprehension skills are that of a child so let me SHOW you what was said. Whatever you say, pal. I'm very sure anyone following this thread from beginning to end is quite clear on who's the child here.

NOW, I told Billy that Tranz designed vortechhosting.com, genius. I PAID him for it. Get it?? Just wanted to include this little bit of genius again for those who appreciate the subtle humor of your position.

Now shut the hell up and go away. You are showing how much a lil competition frightens you. Now that wasn't very nice. But no worries, doesn't bother me. But please humor me, how are we competitors again? You, a competitor of mine? pulllllease - you give yourself W-A-Y too much credit.

You obviously don't realize any advertising is good advertising. Huh? OK.....whatever you say....hope you enjoy the marquee attention. Potential clients, please note, Vortech wants this thread to serve as advertising to you of his ability to deal with an issue.

It just shows how insecure you are to have to attack me when it is not even your site. HUH? Who are you, Yogi Berra or something? I'm insecure now? I'm grounded in priciple here, what's your excuse? Ignorance is truly bliss.

All i am saying is some one else made it how would i know till some one else tells me.. Like it told serverhost i am working on changing the stuff and have done most of it already.. I want it changed as much as you guys do. You're absolutely, completely full of crap. If this statement was true, as soon as we told you, you would have accepted responsibility and pledged to remove the offending material. Instead, we've got 4 pages of you arguing against the world that it's not your fault.

Look, I wouldn't even have bothered to post on this thread if you had accepted responsibility early on. All this talk about my ability to comprehend, I'm a child, etc.... why don't you tell us, for the record, how old you are?

Parting thought: you're still a content thief.

*makes shape of an 'L' on forehead*

Brandon

What ever Brandon..

I am not even going to waist my time on you any more. Think what you want. I could really care less.

Who yea visit rapidcolo.com just one more time for me..

Who yea visit rapidcolo.com just one more time for me.. Come again?

Asking 'em for their age gets them every time. ;)

Don't feel bad, it was an indefensible position. Nothing personal, I have no idea who you are... I don't even know your real name.

Please just ensure your contractors don't use someone else's work in the future.

Good luck,

Brandon

Sorry a few to many drinks it is the weekend you know.. :)

Ah, it all makes sense now. :buck:

No problem, just be sure to always scrutinize the work your contractors do - because it's *your* name on the line.

Take care,

Brandon

Yea i know.. We have been very hard on them every since the Vortech problem.. :( Never even thought about RapidColo. Having any problems.. But hey there getting fixed and should not ever be a problem again.. :) I will make sure of that.. That i will put my name to ( Brad BTW ) ;)

You still are using our content. You obviously have enough time on your hands to redesign your site - please remove our content - this is getting ridiculous.

jkehe only thing left is that FAQ I am already working on that. Plus I already changed that as well but working on fixing it even more.

jkehe its all changed. If you have a problem with any on it as i said before please email me. Any more post here will not be replied to by me as i see this as a closed issuse unless you email us with any other info.

You haven't changed anything.

You guys should sort this out via e-mail. :argue:

What he said above.