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fionix
03-10-2008, 05:45 AM
We just placed an order with this company : http://www.online-internet-marketing-services.com/index.php because of reviews on another forum, anyone know the quality of the work ?

dangermouse99
03-10-2008, 07:02 AM
We just placed an order with this company : http://www.online-internet-marketing-services.com/index.php because of reviews on another forum, anyone know the quality of the work ?

hi

Personally I would check if there their own website does well
for the keywords they are competing for, I have run a quick check
for you here is the result.


Checked results
The first 100 results of each search engine have been checked.


Checked URLs
URL Listings on page 1 Listings on page 2 Listings on page 3
http://www.online-internet-marketing-services.com 0 0 0
Total 0 0 0


Checked keywords
Keyword Listings on page 1 Listings on page 2 Listings on page 3
All the marketing services and online tools you need to run a successful internet business. We can get you those high results 0 0 0
articles 0 0 0
campaign 0 0 0
company 0 0 0
directories 0 0 0
internet 0 0 0
link exchange 0 0 0
link popularity 0 0 0
manual submissions 0 0 0
marketing 0 0 0
online 0 0 0
Online Internet Marketing Services 0 0 0
services 0 0 0
strategy 0 0 0
Total 0 0 0

This is just from Google they might be ranked in other search engine
I'm not saying this company is bad or not trustworthy.
However in recent times I've seen dozens of seo firm's pop up
out of nowhere so do be careful .

fionix
03-10-2008, 07:53 AM
Thank you for the check.

fionix
03-10-2008, 08:57 AM
Okay, and what do you think about this company, they ask for 25.000 USD for SEO work :confused:

I don't have any problems to pay for services if they bring proffit, however this is just alot of money for a company I do not know.

http://www.ecommercehosts.com

dangermouse99
03-10-2008, 10:30 AM
hi

while I just visit there site and it's got a few PHP issues;)
search engine optimisation is simply not cheap
well basically if you rank well for certain keywords
let's say credit card protection this builds trust with people who search for this.
this tends to lead to increase of sales
also by the fact that most people don't even continue looking through the pages
they simply search for something new.

however if you do spent that kind of money you to look at
increase sales in my opinion
it's true that for smaller companies this is not an option and it is simply too expensive.

I have done seo for a few sites on a part-time base ,
if you like send me info on regards your site , I can give you some better advice

beow
03-10-2008, 11:34 AM
To be honestly, I don't really think that they are effective. You can see their SEO - it's almost nothing.

Anyhow I can suggest you to go to forums.digitalpoint.com - the forum is more related to these things.

fionix
03-10-2008, 11:44 AM
Thats also my impression.. Anyway thank you.

RatePointGuy
03-11-2008, 11:19 AM
This is a classic example of gut-check. A quick visual look at the sites (including the PHP errors on the latter) would immediately make me question doing business with them.

Make sure you put some realistic expectations on what you're expecting this stuff to do. Real SEO exercises cost thousands of dollars and should have many reputable examples.

A $20 directory submission service, or some black-hat traffic driving non-sense won't help at all or could hurt.

dangermouse99
03-11-2008, 11:26 AM
This is a classic example of gut-check. A quick visual look at the sites (including the PHP errors on the latter) would immediately make me question doing business with them.

Make sure you put some realistic expectations on what you're expecting this stuff to do. Real SEO exercises cost thousands of dollars and should have many reputable examples.

A $20 directory submission service, or some black-hat traffic driving non-sense won't help at all or could hurt.


this is the point I am trying to get across.
and there always will be people looking for a quick fix :homer:
thanks for backing up my point

JRSEOMarketing
03-12-2008, 04:01 PM
I agree good SEO people/companies are not cheap. Good ones range from $175/hr to $35/hr. Its a big range, but anything below $35/hr.. I would really look hard at how good they are.

I'd take up dangermouse99 if I was you... free advice.. sounds good :)

Although I really do not see much in SEO from that website. It appears they mostly do content pages, article submission, directory submission. If SEO was that easy... i'd be out of a job lol


hi

while I just visit there site and it's got a few PHP issues;)
search engine optimisation is simply not cheap...

I have done seo for a few sites on a part-time base ,
if you like send me info on regards your site , I can give you some better advice

ianjw11
03-12-2008, 06:59 PM
True, I have seen many of those "$20" seo firms pop up...Especially on forums like digitalpoint.

Vishal
03-13-2008, 12:14 AM
We just placed an order with this company : http://www.online-internet-marketing-services.com/index.php because of reviews on another forum, anyone know the quality of the work ?

Do they have portfolio ? or any Optimization Plan for your site?

Also before signup they ask you URL(site name) and keywords for analysis for create a strategy for optimization.

If no then goodluck

elitewebs
03-13-2008, 01:15 AM
Just ask them what they can do for you .. and if you think they are going right then you can proceed !!

1boss1
03-14-2008, 08:47 AM
Just be careful thats all i will say. I rank around 3 or 4 in Google for the term SEO Company, and in the top 10 to 15 for just SEO. I guess you could say i know what im doing considering im outranking some of the biggest names in the industry.

Good advice is to learn the basics of SEO yourself from "reputable" sources so you can make the right decision when choosing a company for your project.

Unfortunately in the last 2 years or so there are an increasingly number of "professional" SEO Companies who know nothing except how to optimize their own wallets.

Worst still, some can do more damage than if you done no SEO. The repairs i have done on some of these websites is staggering.

Research the company very carefully, its not like getting a bad host where you can just move your sites to a new one. You can find your site booted out of Google for months costing a fortune in lost revenue.

Melnel
03-15-2008, 02:29 AM
First off internet online.... is not an SEO it is a company which specializes in directory and articles submission, but they are good at what they do - I use them myself often.

Secondly I don't know where you came up with ecommercehosts... but that is an old site that I own which has never been active, has never been SEO'd and has never sent out a single SEO quote.

Perhaps you are thinking of search-engine-optimization.ecommercehosts... which does send out quotes in that price range but which has been 301'd to my new site at theseoshop.com for the past few months.

The best advice I can give you is to do your homework a little more carefully.

LinkPopularity
03-15-2008, 03:21 AM
Hi Melnel,

thanks for backing me up :D

hi Fionix,

well, I just registered here to be able to response ... don't worry about those comments, those guys are just jealous that you didn't order from them ...

intelligent/intellectual; from Latin ; inter lecture -> reading between the lines ...

what the first poster is trying to proof, I don't know ...
I really don't see his point, except that he pull some stuff from my site and put a lot of 0's next to it, where he gets it from I don't know ... it's totally inaccurate, but then again ... do I need to rank #1 for manual directory submissions to be able to do it? I don't think so ... it's not exactly rocket science :D

don't worry, I totally understand that you're a bit nervous after making such a big order, but you just need to be a bit patient, we're extremely busy, that's all.
(which also explains why we didn't do that much work on our own site, although, we do have a couple of thousand links ... check them in yahoo ... more then 9.xxx !!)

why are we so busy?
well, because we have a whole lot of happy clients, most of them are SEO companies, who order manual submissions from us ... a lot !!

we have the knowledge and experience to do more specific SEO services, but even more so, we offer our clients the advantages of us being in Thailand, that's how we're able to offer a very time consuming job -> manual submissions at a very low fee, this while my assistant and I have plenty of experience to overview the work and make sure it's done at the very best standards ... that's why we're better in this little piece of the SEO puzzle then most others ...

so, we give our clients good results, they order more, refer friends to us etc and that's why I don't have to rank #1 to get tons of orders ... after all, mouth by mouth advertisement is still the very best and that's what we get, thanks to our dedication to quality for our clients (resulting in our own site to be the last in line to get extra attention)

it's also an attitude; whenever I have to ask myself, if I'm going to let a client wait for 2-3 days to make sure we can spend enough time on his project to ensure the highest quality ... or ... do it fast-fast and give him a crappy service ... well, then I prefer to let you wait :D

but ok, I do have to do it, so this is the end of my post ... I have your landing pages to focus on ;-)

cheers,

Michiel

Vishal
03-17-2008, 06:14 AM
Hi Melnel,

thanks for backing me up :D

hi Fionix,

well, I just registered here to be able to response ... don't worry about those comments, those guys are just jealous that you didn't order from them ...

intelligent/intellectual; from Latin ; inter lecture -> reading between the lines ...

what the first poster is trying to proof, I don't know ...
I really don't see his point, except that he pull some stuff from my site and put a lot of 0's next to it, where he gets it from I don't know ... it's totally inaccurate, but then again ... do I need to rank #1 for manual directory submissions to be able to do it? I don't think so ... it's not exactly rocket science :D

don't worry, I totally understand that you're a bit nervous after making such a big order, but you just need to be a bit patient, we're extremely busy, that's all.
(which also explains why we didn't do that much work on our own site, although, we do have a couple of thousand links ... check them in yahoo ... more then 9.xxx !!)

why are we so busy?
well, because we have a whole lot of happy clients, most of them are SEO companies, who order manual submissions from us ... a lot !!

we have the knowledge and experience to do more specific SEO services, but even more so, we offer our clients the advantages of us being in Thailand, that's how we're able to offer a very time consuming job -> manual submissions at a very low fee, this while my assistant and I have plenty of experience to overview the work and make sure it's done at the very best standards ... that's why we're better in this little piece of the SEO puzzle then most others ...

so, we give our clients good results, they order more, refer friends to us etc and that's why I don't have to rank #1 to get tons of orders ... after all, mouth by mouth advertisement is still the very best and that's what we get, thanks to our dedication to quality for our clients (resulting in our own site to be the last in line to get extra attention)

it's also an attitude; whenever I have to ask myself, if I'm going to let a client wait for 2-3 days to make sure we can spend enough time on his project to ensure the highest quality ... or ... do it fast-fast and give him a crappy service ... well, then I prefer to let you wait :D

but ok, I do have to do it, so this is the end of my post ... I have your landing pages to focus on ;-)

cheers,

Michiel

First
Welcome to WHT

Second

well, I just registered here to be able to response ... don't worry about those comments, those guys are just jealous that you didn't order from them ...

We are not jealous, The First poster ask review of your site(company) and we gave him thats it.

fionix
03-17-2008, 06:28 AM
Thank you guys, and thank you for taking the time for reviewing the service and to come with your suggestions.

After some weeks now, then I can just confirm that they are a good company putting alot of work and effort to satisfy our needs. They reply promptly to the requests we send.

Some companies in general, should do business like Online Internet marketing service do, that would bring alot of happy customers and help the industry in general.

LinkPopularity
03-17-2008, 06:41 AM
Hi Fionix,

Thanks for that :)

We always try to give the very best service possible, happy clients are returning clients ;-)

cheers,

Michiel

beow
03-17-2008, 07:23 AM
Really glad that everything is ok. Do you have any SERP results?

nuclei
03-18-2008, 09:14 PM
Hi Michiel (Zonneke/LinkPopularity) nice to see you here. :)

As Mel pointed out, zonnekes service is indeed solid and well worth the money I have spent there as well, but the OP should not mistake directory submission as actual SEO, which he has done. The target market he is going after online credit card processing is not going to be won by directory submissions alone. That one is going to take a very large amount of work from an experienced optimizer to get the keywords he wants.

LinkPopularity
03-18-2008, 11:15 PM
hey Will,

nice to see you here :)

yes, very right !
see it like this; we do the time consuming work, so your expert can concentrate on the high value work !

cheers,

Michiel