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View Full Version : What cannot be installed from a remote location?


jonglenn
03-07-2001, 07:20 PM
With a server that is co-located, can anything be installed from a remote location? (thru SSH/Telnet with root access).

If the hard disk is freshly formatted what is the minimum software that needs to be loaded (by someone at the site) so other packages can be installed remotely?

jayglate
03-07-2001, 07:34 PM
The OS, and network drivers, with sshd don't use telent, very very bad telnet bad... everything else can be done with telnet.

addady
03-10-2001, 08:02 AM
> with sshd don't use telent,
why ?
Isn't it better then not installing ssh ?

MattF
03-10-2001, 08:51 AM
What's the point of replacing Telnet with SSH??? It's totally pointless when web hosting companies still continue to offer standard FTP and POP3 email access unsecurely. Taking down 1 out of 3 is not worth it especially since it means users have to download new ssh clients and all that crap. IMHO, it's like upgrading your back door (on a house) to something like a server vault door yet leaving the front door unlocked. Unless your going to offer secure FTP and email access then SSH is before time.

With both either Telnet or SSH you should be able to do everything including kernel upgrades etc... Although it does help if the NOC is staffed 24/7

jtan15
03-10-2001, 12:36 PM
Originally posted by MattF
What's the point of replacing Telnet with SSH??? It's totally pointless when web hosting companies still continue to offer standard FTP and POP3 email access unsecurely. Taking down 1 out of 3 is not worth it especially since it means users have to download new ssh clients and all that crap. IMHO, it's like upgrading your back door (on a house) to something like a server vault door yet leaving the front door unlocked. Unless your going to offer secure FTP and email access then SSH is before time.

I think it would be okay to continue to offer Telnet/FTP/POP3 to the customers, but you should install SSH if it is JUST for root access. Logging in via root with telnet, or suing to root is a bad idea. Using SSH is MUCH more secure.