I'm looking at different reseller-provider companies who have the following feature: Overselling Enabled.

I thought overselling is a bad thing. Has it changed? But I'm curious. It sounds good, you can add accounts until almost all disk space and bandwidth is used...

But what happens when say one or more accounts attempt to exceed the disk space or bandwidth... do ALL accounts get a suspended page, or just the accounts attempting to exceed? Or does it move the account to a new server with more resources. What exactly happens?

I mean this feature is proudly displayed and advertised, is it a good feature? :confused:

Reseller hosting can sometimes be an advantage, but for me i don't oversell even if i am on a reseller. A lot of people claim they don't oversell but you will only really know if you see WHM behind doors.

If you are going to buy from a company that offers reseller hosting make sure that if you do go over your limit that you are able to pay in for the extra space used with them cutting you off or allow you to upgrade

All it actually means is that you are able to create packages for your clients that exceeed your allowed space and bandwidth.

If your clients use up that space you will need to pay for the overage or your client's account would be suspended if he reached the limit set by the host.

Some hosts deal with it differently, but in my opinion it is a good feature but you must keep an eye on things to make sure you don't go over your limits by more than you can afford, Ask your host what the cost is for extra bandwidth and space before going crazy.

your client's account would be suspended if he reached the limit set by the host.Well now, with overselling enabled, all customers (end users) may be under their set limits, yet the total actual usage exceed what the reseller is allowed to use. It would be the reseller who's exceeding the usage, and risking suspension, but I doubt any host worth its salt would suspend an entire reseller account lightly. In any case, it makes for a great pre-sales question. ;)

I mean this feature is proudly displayed and advertised, is it a good feature?It is interesting, isn't it, to see so many resellers complaining about providers overselling and then see them looking for the ability to oversell themselves. I guess it's because many use "overselling" as a substitute for "overloading" in certain circumstances. :)

Overselling as a practice is fine, if done cautiously.

I'm looking at different reseller-provider companies who have the following feature: Overselling Enabled.

I thought overselling is a bad thing. Has it changed? But I'm curious. It sounds good, you can add accounts until almost all disk space and bandwidth is used...

But what happens when say one or more accounts attempt to exceed the disk space or bandwidth... do ALL accounts get a suspended page, or just the accounts attempting to exceed? Or does it move the account to a new server with more resources. What exactly happens?

I mean this feature is proudly displayed and advertised, is it a good feature? :confused:


Overselling is a bad thing if it is not managed properly. If a web host allows overselling on reseller hosting accounts and then promptly goes to oversell the entire server with reseller accounts, you can expect some server performance/capacity issues down the road.

I'm looking at different reseller-provider companies who have the following feature: Overselling Enabled.

I thought overselling is a bad thing. Has it changed? But I'm curious. It sounds good, you can add accounts until almost all disk space and bandwidth is used...

But what happens when say one or more accounts attempt to exceed the disk space or bandwidth... do ALL accounts get a suspended page, or just the accounts attempting to exceed? Or does it move the account to a new server with more resources. What exactly happens?

I mean this feature is proudly displayed and advertised, is it a good feature? :confused:

Overselling is not necessarily a bad thing. It depends on how it is managed.

For people looking for Reseller Accounts - it is a good feature as you only need to upgrade to a higher plan when all your clients together reach or are nearing reach of utilising the whole resources allocated to you.

Well, if you keep a constant watch on your Reseller Account you can just upgrade to the higher plan when your account is nearing full use of resources.

Guess this helps.

Some companies don't allow to overselling. But they provide more space by making overselling and control overselling theirselves. So you have not a worry about exceeding your limit.

I don't think that the overselling feature is a bad thing either. As long as you keep a close eye on how much of YOUR space/bandwidth is being used by your clients, you shouldn't have a problem at all. Just make sure you upgrade when you get close to your limit set by your provider.

Overselling as a practice is fine, if done cautiously.

I doubt it. Out of every 10 customers, there may be one or two using more resources and thats where it starts. Its people who have to decide.

If your site is just some static content, then it does not matter where you host them, but its gonna be something like youtube or image hosting then you have to look on for alternatives instead of going for overselling options.

I see here a lot of posts cursing the companies for suspending their website, why don't these people think before they go with them. you will only get for what you pay for, don't expect anything more than that.

Overselling is a risky business. To oversell, you have to predict what your customers will actually use out of the quota you give them. If your predictions aren't correct, then you will end up going over your own quota.

Overselling in this context isn't a bad thing, as for an example.

Lets say you have 10gb space and 100gb transfer(bandwidth)

You have plans that are 1gb space and 10gb transfer so you can have 10 clients.

With overselling you could have 100 clients, but you still only have the same resources,but since its likely that most of your clients won't use all their alloted resources you may not even have to get more, but if you do need more space/transfer you can easily get more from your host before you hit your limits.So as long as its carefully managed it can help you get alot more clients and revenue.

While yes it also means you can create huge plans and sell those, Its still a useful thing to have at this level.

Overselling by selling plans that are 100gb space and 1tb transfer for $3 is massive overselling and not something I reccomend anyone sell or purchase plans like that.

Lets say you have 10gb space and 100gb transfer(bandwidth)
You have plans that are 1gb space and 10gb transfer so you can have 10 clients.
With overselling you could have 100 clients

And as soon as 9 of those clients use their limit *boom* the entire 100 customers are shutdown and your business goes up in smoke. That is if the "host" who allows overselling doesnt shut you down for a "ToS violation" when you get to 2% of what you're getting from them !


It's very simple ... You can either sell plans appropraite to the end-users needs, without overselling, and actually provide what you've sold.

Or you can be a lying cheating scumbag and sell something they cant actually have, but have paid you for.

:D

And as soon as 9 of those clients use their limit *boom* the entire 100 customers are shutdown and your business goes up in smoke. That is if the "host" who allows overselling doesnt shut you down for a "ToS violation" when you get to 2% of what you're getting from them !


It's very simple ... You can either sell plans appropraite to the end-users needs, without overselling, and actually provide what you've sold.

Or you can be a lying cheating scumbag and sell something they cant actually have, but have paid you for.

:D

Whilst I agree with you entirely, your missing my main point.

Without Overselling enabled, you could not have 11 clients on the plans above and the reseller is then just restricted in his ability to sell, when he has those 11 if he manages his clients properly when they are using near his limits, he can simply make a choice to buy more space/bandwidth or not.

I believe that should be the resellers choice.

I think overselling (like HG,DH etc) is false advertising, but having overselling enabled for a reseller account is a different matter as it has other implications to the reseller.

I'm sure you agree ;)

Without Overselling enabled, you could not have 11 clients on the plans above


Correct. If the resller wants to offer 11 people 1Gb, they have to do it in an ethical manner, and buy 11Gb of space, not 10 and oversell, or 1 and really oversell ...

Walmart dont sell multiple people the same tin of beans - why should hosting be any different :P

Correct. If the resller wants to offer 11 people 1Gb, they have to do it in an ethical manner, and buy 11Gb of space, not 10 and oversell, or 1 and really oversell ...

Walmart dont sell multiple people the same tin of beans - why should hosting be any different :P

You're comparing apples and oranges there. You're comparing a product and a service. You'll find most service businesses oversell their service which results in higher profits for them and also lower price for the customer. All your major services are oversold

- Water
- Electricity
- Phone
- Cell Phone
- Internet

I could keep going but you get the idea. If every single person was to use the service in it's entirety there would be issues. But we all know that is not going to happen as offering the service to a market for a while you quite clearly see it's not the case.

Overselling is normal, as long as you do it in a right and calculated way. If airlines started overselling like some of the major/bigger webhosts, no one would ever get a seat or flight :)

Some math doesn't hurt along with a good business plan, but then again when did any of the 'webhosting' companies every really make a plan :rollseyes:

I would stay clear of sites that oversell. When you oversell, you reduce the quality of your hosting that you will receive because their servers are working so hard to work for all the people that would not be able to fit on the server if you had not allowed overselling (if that makes sence?) Now this isnt always true, but most of the time

I would stay clear of sites that oversell. When you oversell, you reduce the quality of your hosting that you will receive because their servers are working so hard to work for all the people that would not be able to fit on the server if you had not allowed overselling (if that makes sence?) Now this isnt always true, but most of the time

Where did you draw that conclusion from?

If you have 10 GB reseller package and you sell 1 GB space to 20 people and you still never reach your allocated resources how is the server working so hard?

Also, no one was talking here about overselling hosts. They were talking about Overselling enabled Reseller Plans ;)

Nice Conclusion :agree:
I just wanted to add in my opinion about overselling. Im going by my experiences. May be not all companies, but it is just one thing that I look for
Also, no one was talking here about overselling hosts. They were talking about Overselling enabled Reseller Plans ;)