Hiya :)

I was wondering if anyone who does reselling in Australia knows what kind of license you need if your doing it from home? do you need one at all? any idea where to get more info on this? I been looking around on the business websites and govt websites but in terms of home based online businesses I'm not getting much info.. If anyone knows please pass the info along. Greatly appreciated. :)

p.s. I'm in victoria (if that affects anything)

Thanks in advance

You need nothing to setup your business, except a registered business name and maybe an ABN number if you would like to sell to businesses.

There is of course TIO but they are only for ISPs. All ISPs are suppose to be apart of it but it doesn't include web hosting companies.

I run a hosting thing here in Australia and don't know of any licence except for what was mentioned above about the business registration and maybe ABN if you're turning over more than $50,000 for GST purposes.

Cheers,
Nigel

Hiya

Thanks :)

yep I had a look into getting a business name etc. and the gst issue.

I'll most likely call them up and talk to them too (just to make 100% sure its all legal).

What happens tax wise?

Is there a minimum i have to earn b4 i declare income etc?

I think it's around $5400 before you have to declare personal income.

You're really much better talking to an accountant about all these questions. Then you are assured that the info is up-to-date and correct.

Who did you decide to host with anyway?

Cheers,
Nigel

hiya :)

still deciding actually

aussiehosts/httpme/some others etc i'm thinking about

I thought i'd get a reseller package (small one) so I can learn on it for a couple of months (can host some friend/family sites etc for now).

The main thing i've realised is that a lack of organisation and lack of understanding of the responsibility is what is leading to so many stuff ups..

So I want to practise for a while (and not hurt anyone) till I know what i'm doing and really understand what i'm getting myself into :)

These forums I would have to say is one of the best things i've come across :) I'm spending hours here reading lol.. Doing info sys at uni has helped as well.. as i'm familiar with computers etc and this helps to pick up newer things more easily :)

I'll most likely talk to a lawer/accountant soon as well as some of the government business departments to make sure I have all the correct information and uptodate information so I don't end up in some kind of trouble (very unlikely but you have to cover all ends).

Do you have any suggestions for some hosts?

Thanks in advance,

Salsabil

Back to the issue of Tax, If you dont earn over the 50k mark be prepared to pay a very large % at the end of the year when doing your own tax.

Make sure you keep all receipts and invoices so you can use them to save some money on tax at the end of the year.

Good luck on your search for a host.

Kind regards

Elena
www.surrenderonline.com.au

<<Admin edit: post edited to reflect removed posts. Thanks Elena>>

aussiehosts/httpme/some others etc i'm thinking about

Really, you would need to register your business. Costs vary from state to state. ABN as suggested. The best darn company offering reseller plans in OZ? : HTTPme.com :)

if you are wanting to register a .com.au you will need a minimum of a registered australian businsess name, in victoria these are $70 for three yrs.

.com.au domains have recently dropped in price to around $99/2yrs

with regard to tax, as stated above, if you will be doing >$50,000 turnover you need to register for gst when signing up for an ABN. if you won't be doing that much then you wont't need to register, though nyou will still need an ABN.

hope this helps

Originally posted by Choppy
Back to the issue of Tax, If you dont earn over the 50k mark be prepared to pay a very large % at the end of the year when doing your own tax.

Make sure you keep all receipts and invoices so you can use them to save some money on tax at the end of the year.

Good luck on your search for a host.

Kind regards

Elena
www.surrenderonline.com.au

<<Admin edit: post edited to reflect removed posts. Thanks Elena>>

Err just to make this clear.

The income from your business plus the income from your day job = total taxable income.

Meaning if you earn 30K in your day job and also earn 30K in your business, then your total taxable income is 60K

You should speak to an accountant, they are worth it in some instances. :D

I am with HTTPMe.com
I am very happy with them. I suggest you join their discussion forum and that will prove to you what a great community we are.
Thasin

Originally posted by salsabil
I thought i'd get a reseller package (small one) so I can learn on it for a couple of months (can host some friend/family sites etc for now).
Yes, get your reseller hosting and practice on your friends and family and on yourself. You are your own best customer. Maybe offer free hosting to these folks while you're getting the feel for the system.

Keep active here at WHT and learn - learn - learn. Build your business right and in 2 years from now, you'll probably have 20 dedicated servers and a sweet cashflow. :D

It's a good business to run and by being a reseller, you don't have to worry about server admin. You just have your clients to worry about. Your supplier will look after the servers and keep things humming along...

I just signed up with http://www.resellerspace.net they are another australian company with servers based in the US.

Anyhoo, I rang up the tax department about GST & ABN etc in relation to reselling and they said, I needed an ABN because my "enterprise" would not be considered a hobby, however I was not required to register for GST as I would not be earning 50000+ (as some people have already mentioned). Of course in your and my situation any business income is classified as personal income - unless you register a company but I wouldn't recommend it at your size as it's just another hassle (I think it costs about $1200 at the mo).

I also asked them that if I did eventually register for GST if I would have to charge GST to international customers. They said I did, but i've noticed a lot companies around not charging GST to overseas customers. So that seems to be a bit of a grey area for me.

When I registered my .com.au name I'm pretty sure that a business name was required but an ABN wasn't. But I think things are a bit different now, i.e. you can register many different .com.au names for the one enterprise, as well as some "generic" names.

And, yes httpme.com look good also (they where my second choice), looks like mr aussie bob has great support.

Charging a tax for overseas customers? This is most definately incorrect. For a start, how do you charge an individual a service tax if that person does not live in your country? Even the servers that supply your service are not in your country. Technically you are providing a service which does not even exist in you country. The only thing you are doing is acting as a middleman. Yes you would have to pay tax because you are earning from your venture but you can not charge a foreigner a tax if they are not a resident! technically you are 'exporting' your service. Others may have a clearer insite but this is how I see it. :)


MAX POWER :homer:

True, you do not need to charge GST if you sell to people outside of Australia. It is considered an export and exports are GST free.

:cool:

Originally posted by dragonhawk
....exports are GST free.
Sweet words indeed!! :D

John Howard -> :stickout

Originally posted by dragonhawk
True, you do not need to charge GST if you sell to people outside of Australia. It is considered an export and exports are GST free.

:cool:

This is correct

salsabil

I think most of your questions have been answered in this theard already but if you want to drop me a email to monte@techark.com I will send you my phone number and you can ring and talk to my wife. Tho not a CPA she is an accountant and teaches accounting at the uni here on the Gold Coast, so she can answer most of your business questions for free.

Originally posted by Monte
I will send you my phone number and you can ring and talk to my wife.

In all the years reading this forum I don't think anyone's ever offered that before :D

Greg Moore

Originally posted by akashik


In all the years reading this forum I don't think anyone's ever offered that before :D

Greg Moore
:laugh: :D :blush:

hmm maybe i should get married...