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xghettohoodx
01-31-2008, 02:33 AM
hey, i was wondering
if i own a domain called hmm, lets say..
greenapples.com

will it pop up in google's first page if some one were to search the word

"green apples"

like with a space in between?

thanks :)

SSHocker
01-31-2008, 05:02 AM
I'ts certainly great from a seo point to have the keywords in the domain, but not the only factor. Despends on how competitive "green apples" is as a keyword set.

gate2vn
01-31-2008, 05:10 AM
No. "green apples" is exact match, and it's different than greenapples

apsivam
01-31-2008, 05:54 AM
Will certainly do if your website is optimized
Search Google for "web hosting talk"

shakir
02-03-2008, 03:46 AM
in the case domain name i think green apple and also the without space also wont work well. Google considering the title and the content only. if you include green apple in the title or some where in the content then it will work....

MrCat
02-03-2008, 05:27 AM
Having keywords in your domain name will certainly help in rankings. But this can only be determined how well you optimize onpage (title, meta, keywords) and offpage (backlinks using your keywords as anchor texts). ;)

dawhb
02-03-2008, 08:06 PM
You would appear among the first search results only if your web stie is relevant to the keywords. That means to have a good content and excellent SEO strategy. The domain name does not guarantee rank in results.

xghettohoodx
02-04-2008, 09:57 PM
thanks for the replys guys :)

MrCat
02-05-2008, 04:54 PM
thanks for the replys guys :)
you're most welcome... ;)

rasputin
02-05-2008, 06:32 PM
hey, i was wondering
if i own a domain called hmm, lets say..
greenapples.com

will it pop up in google's first page if some one were to search the word

"green apples"

like with a space in between?

thanks :)

Ah, looking at Google currently I would say you have a better chance of coming up for a search for:

"greenapples.com"

"green apples" looks as though it is bringing up several other sites that rank higher for that keyword phrase.

In order to really have a better chance of ranking higher for that kw phrase you are going to want to ad relevant content to the site at "greenapples.com" and ad meta descriptions/keywords and alt tags that focus on that particular keyword phrase.

The domain name alone is not enough to get a site to rank on a specific keyword phrase. In other words, NO, simply having that domain name is not a guarantee of a high rank.

Verticity
02-06-2008, 01:50 AM
hey, i was wondering
if i own a domain called hmm, lets say..
greenapples.com

will it pop up in google's first page if some one were to search the word

"green apples"

like with a space in between?

thanks :)


use "green apples" and "greenapples" as keywords and as title. and see the results when google index ur page.

nuclei
02-06-2008, 03:25 AM
use "green apples" and "greenapples" as keywords and as title. and see the results when google index ur page.


It is not quite that easy. Not even for a term that has under a million competing pages.


xghettohoodx: make sure the term is in your title tag, it should also appear prominently in the page content. Then you will need to go get in the neighborhood of 20-30 decent links with the anchor text "green Apples". That should be all you need.

ogletreeseo
02-06-2008, 04:43 PM
The URL does not play a direct role in rank. The reason that it seems to help is that when people link to you they often times use those two words to link to you.

nuclei
02-06-2008, 04:49 PM
Hi David, nice to see you here :)

phillowe
02-07-2008, 12:30 AM
it could take you a lot of time and work to get number one for a keyword if that keyword is popular like said above links that go to your site is a good way to achieve this if combined with good site optimization.

junki
02-15-2008, 09:34 AM
If you are in highly competitive keyword then you must do all the possible ways to get ahead of your competitors. When you search for green apples in Google you will notice that greenapples is bolded which mean that keyword in url is one of the factors that have effect on SEO. Avoid using dash in url because it is hard to remember for many peoples.

nuclei
02-15-2008, 09:41 AM
When you search for green apples in Google you will notice that greenapples is bolded which mean that keyword in url is one of the factors that have effect on SEO.

Totally incorrect. The highlighting is done seperate of the ranking algo. Just because the words are highlighed does NOT mean it adds any value to rankings.

junki
02-15-2008, 09:45 AM
I think that you should read some more about keyword rich domain.

nuclei
02-15-2008, 09:50 AM
Why? They are good for one thing, the domain name has the keywords in it, which are beneficial in LINKS.

The highlighting of searches at google being part of the ranking algo was disproven several years ago, as well as just lately. I suggest YOU read up on current SEO.

junki
02-15-2008, 09:56 AM
well I said that it is one of the factor that have effect on SEO didn't I but nobody can denied that title tag is the most important and if it match with keyword in domain name then that website will have higher chance of getting high ranking in SERP and REMEMBER that i said it is ONE of many FACTORS that have EFFECT on SEO.

nuclei
02-15-2008, 10:01 AM
When you search for green apples in Google you will notice that greenapples is bolded which mean that keyword in url is one of the factors that have effect on SEO.

No, what you stated as fact was that because it was BOLDED, it was one of the factors. That was totally incorrect as I simply pointed out. You have to remember, there are newbies here who might think that was true, and I can't stand misinformation being propogated

junki
02-15-2008, 10:10 AM
I think that you misunderstood about my wording. what is the difference between keyword in url and keyword rich domain?. You are one kind of a fighter lol. If I said something that make you misunderstanding then I am so sorry. My intension was to about keyword rich domain ok? and please stop this arguement because it is no good for reader.

nuclei
02-15-2008, 10:21 AM
Junki, there was no misunderstanding. Your words "you will notice that greenapples is bolded which mean that" clearly state that the bolding (highlighting) means that it is a ranking factor.

As for something mislading being corrected, that IS good for the newbie readers, otherwise they think that because something in a search is highlighted, they should spam the living daylights out of their pages and domains with keywords.

And, No, keyword rich domains have never been proven to be a direct factor. Only LINKS to them have, due to having the keyword in them. That is an INDIRECT result, not a ranking factor.

junki
02-15-2008, 11:14 AM
Ok I am so sorry if my wording is wrong and make someone misunderstand ok, english is not my first language but we live in the same SEO world and you must be smoking something to know that "keyword rich domains have never been proven to be a direct factor". Did you actually write the algorithm yourself ?

nuclei
02-15-2008, 01:55 PM
you must be smoking something to know that "keyword rich domains have never been proven to be a direct factor". Did you actually write the algorithm yourself ?

No, but I could have. I am a programmer. I also have read and discussed every single patent google has come out with. I have also participated in more tests than I care to admit t concerning the google algo. Several of thos etests concerned what you are talking about. So, I believe I have a bit more of an idea what I am talking about than someone who regurgitates everything they read over at SChat. Oh and I noticed you get it wrong there quite a bit too.

MrCat
02-17-2008, 05:36 AM
Its only a "plus" factor having your keywords on your URL. What really matters is your onpage and offpage optimization.

zionchild
03-01-2008, 03:07 PM
My early mistakes in domain naming and buying were placing dashes. Never will I do it again.

zionchild
03-02-2008, 06:18 AM
well I said that it is one of the factor that have effect on SEO didn't I but nobody can denied that title tag is the most important and if it match with keyword in domain name then that website will have higher chance of getting high ranking in SERP and REMEMBER that i said it is ONE of many FACTORS that have EFFECT on SEO.

More experiments are important on this issue. I learn SEO issues by playing with Google search. I search for a keyword or phrase and study the highlighted words of the search results. If I want to go deeper, I visit the site and investigate why this keyword got a higher ranking than the other sites.

w3bmaster
03-08-2008, 06:53 AM
You need to get some backlinks with that anchor text .....

elitewebs
03-13-2008, 01:31 AM
Yes google can figure out words !!! That will help alot ;)

GotWebHost
03-15-2008, 11:48 PM
It helps, but really depends on the optimization and age of your competition.