Here is a reply, to me, from SpamCop that I recived, after I got an unexpected e-mail from them:

I'm sorry you got tangled up in this. The mail you're getting that looks like it's from SpamCop is a forgery. The whole thing is a hoax. We have a revenge seeking spammer who is trying his best to cause trouble for us by causing trouble for you. This is the second attack on us this week. For the current run, the originating IP appear to be 63.164.145.33 You may be able to block the traffic on that basis. SpamCop is an anti-spam reporting service that sends something like 100,000 legitimate complaints a day to spammer hosts worldwide, which has made this particular spammer very angry. However, we only send complaints about specific messages, not general indictments of a system, or anything like that.

Actual SpamCop complaints would come from an address like
12345678@reports.spamcop.net.
Each complaint has a unique numbered address. Addresses such as postmaster, webmaster, hostmaster, abuse, support, etc are not in use on our system. Obviously we send bounce notices and stuff like that, but generally not anything else.

Also, see this URL: http://www.julianhaight.com/forgery.shtml

That is word for word the answer that i received. You'd think they'd know better than to use a form letter to dispute forgery and generic emailing from their site.

Originally posted by TheGAME1264
That is word for word the answer that i received. You'd think they'd know better than to use a form letter to dispute forgery and generic emailing from their site.

And why should they write 1000 copies of something that says the SAME exact thing 1000 different ways?

duh.

I wouldn't say that they should write it 1000 different ways but you'd think that they'd at least put some thought into trying to convince you that their letter was legit after having received a carbon copy spam from someone that appeared to be them. It tends to make their story that much harder to believe. It also makes the attempt at the apology that much less sincere.

It'd be like if I hit you with my car and said "I am sorry I hit you with my car." It doesn't really say that much. Mind you, if there's an offer to pay for the damage or some form of understanding of the inconvenience that you were caused by my hitting you with the car, it makes the apology more believable.

In other words, they may have been the victim of an attack, but it doesn't appear that they care.

Originally posted by TheGAME1264
I wouldn't say that they should write it 1000 different ways but you'd think that they'd at least put some thought into trying to convince you that their letter was legit after having received a carbon copy spam from someone that appeared to be them. It tends to make their story that much harder to believe. It also makes the attempt at the apology that much less sincere.

It'd be like if I hit you with my car and said "I am sorry I hit you with my car." It doesn't really say that much. Mind you, if there's an offer to pay for the damage or some form of understanding of the inconvenience that you were caused by my hitting you with the car, it makes the apology more believable.

In other words, they may have been the victim of an attack, but it doesn't appear that they care.


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I do not see a problem with this letter. They are just telling me that someone who claimed to be them is not them. Simple.

Spamcop is used by a lot of people (I use them myself). If they're recieving hundreds - if not thousands - of e-mails a day over this a form letter would be the sane thing to do.

Regardless of personal feelings over spamcop's service, I've used them for a few years on my personal and business addresses, and get a small amount of junkmail due to a heavy feeding of their service. I support spamcop, even with serious reservations over other RBL's and spamkiller services (such as SPEWS). I've even recommended them to customer's that have asked for a way to stick it back to the junkmailers.... right after I suggested they remove the mailto: links on their index pages :)

Greg Moore