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Hassan 01-17-2008, 02:08 PM Hello,
I am thinking to start OnlineRadio,
Please suggest me a good n cheap Shoutcast server provide with that I can allow high number of listeners in low rate.
Best Regards
Hassan
1-dollar-per-mbps 01-17-2008, 02:21 PM Think Windows media server, not shoutcast, for low cost
EvilMan 01-17-2008, 03:09 PM Have you thought of starting with a VPS server, putting shoutcast on it, and going from there?
N|Kitmitto 01-17-2008, 03:32 PM I would check the offers section of the forum, there are some companies in there advertising for Shoutcast
Hassan 01-18-2008, 09:01 PM Is it better to get Shoutcast server or get dedicated server and install Shoutcast on it?
Hosting50 01-18-2008, 09:24 PM There are shell companys who provide shoutcast shells, you can start with that if your budget is low!
CArmstrong 01-18-2008, 09:31 PM Moved to Emerging Tech.
Mxhub 01-18-2008, 10:08 PM You can actually stream using either shoutcast or window media player on the same shoutcast account. This is provided you configure your server correctly.
markfrompf 01-21-2008, 03:06 PM Hi guys!
Sorry to rain on the parade here, but Shoutcast is definitely the way to go. I work directly with the largest internet stations in the world - Shoutcast is the standard. I mean it's free... And if a company can run hundreds of thousands of listeners simultaneously without problems, there must be something to SC!
I would personally take a trip to the website of my favorite dedicated server company, buy a server, shut down every port except for your defined shoutcast port.
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ErevErick 01-31-2008, 05:11 AM Check out primcast.com , used them for months and months, great service, great up time , great prices.
GreatDomainRace 01-31-2008, 05:11 PM I would say, get your own private server. Either with a reputable company or collocated and install Shoutcast and run it yourself.
Zafar Ahmed 02-16-2008, 12:13 AM Just FYI, your website exceeded it's bandwidth.
http://www.roboimages.com/
:)
SecureGrid 02-16-2008, 04:53 AM Shoutcast is the way to go.
i have used http://www.streamsolutions.co.uk before..
but it would be better if you had a dedicated server.:D
forumtalk 02-16-2008, 06:29 AM Think Windows media server, not shoutcast, for low cost
I think shoutcast is fast & cheap way to start NETradio :)
aacPlus v2 deliver near CD quality audio at only 48kb/s :D
shoutcast hosting package best way to start ,later you can go for your own dedicated servers :agree:
urlhosts 02-16-2008, 06:40 AM Is it better to get Shoutcast server or get dedicated server and install Shoutcast on it?
It's better to start with shoutcast server because you say you don't want to give a lot of money. If you get dedicated server you have to give a lot of money. So start slow slow with shoutcast server to see how is going and then when you see you need more power, you can get dedicated. But remember there you have to give much money.
gigzone 02-20-2008, 02:06 AM It's better to start with shoutcast server because you say you don't want to give a lot of money. If you get dedicated server you have to give a lot of money. So start slow slow with shoutcast server to see how is going and then when you see you need more power, you can get dedicated. But remember there you have to give much money.
You can also get a dedicated server for less then you will pay a stream host provider. Running your own dedicated server will help you in case you need to change your stream quality (ex: 128 kbps instead of 64 kbps) you are paying for dedicated bandwidth use it as you please. Run multiple streams ex: 24 kbps aacPlus, 64 kbps aacPlus, 128 mp3, 192 kbps mp3 etc. A dedicated server will allow you to get more control over your streams.
Coryvmcs1 03-17-2008, 02:58 PM A good quality shoutcast server will do the job and there are a lot of options as far as support and reliability.
Hello,
I am thinking to start OnlineRadio,
Please suggest me a good n cheap Shoutcast server provide with that I can allow high number of listeners in low rate.
Best Regards
Hassan
djbilly 03-20-2008, 03:56 AM Hello,
I am thinking to start OnlineRadio,
Please suggest me a good n cheap Shoutcast server provide with that I can allow high number of listeners in low rate.
Best Regards
Hassan
Hi
Saw this the other day a company that is giving a free 5 day trial of a shoutcast internet radio, no sign up, no credit cards, just email them and they do the rest, easy free software, get your music heard worldwide
GOTO ukinternetradio.net
thanks djbilly
Ultralite 03-20-2008, 04:53 PM I would use a cheap vps and install a shoutcast on it. That's what i do, buy a 4 pounds vps and just install shoutcast. If you want help just private message me. Works perfect with a maximum of 200 listeners and a bitrate of your choice.
darshdude 04-07-2008, 02:46 AM Have you thought of starting with a VPS server, putting shoutcast on it, and going from there?
I HAVE TRIED THAT I DOSENT WORK.. u really need a good vps to run shoutcast which is almost the same price as paying for shoutcast hosting or get you own dedicated managed Server.
VPS can only support 10 to 20 listeners...at a high bitrate u need at least 2 GB memory to run a decent shoutcast server.
WirralNet Matt 04-07-2008, 02:49 AM at a high bitrate u need at least 2 GB memory to run a decent shoutcast server.
YOU WHAT!! :eek:
Try telling that to the little Dell P3 933Mhz/256MB SDRAM/9GB SCSI system's I have running multiple (including very large) streams!!
Shoutcast uses barely nothing to run... other then bandwidth of course, which is where a VPS may be struggling.
:cool:
darshdude 04-07-2008, 03:20 AM YOU WHAT!! :eek:
Try telling that to the little Dell P3 933Mhz/256MB SDRAM/9GB SCSI system's I have running multiple (including very large) streams!!
Shoutcast uses barely nothing to run... other then bandwidth of course, which is where a VPS may be struggling.
:cool:
I would definitely like to see that...
WirralNet Matt 04-07-2008, 03:28 AM I have been running such systems quite happily since... 2004 when I moved my network across to LeaseWeb. They continue to run fine, so there are no upgrades scheduled to the systems themselves as yet, although replacement due to age is a factor that I will have to consider at sometime this year.
Two systems have 256MB RAM and one has 512MB RAM, both P3's with 9GB SCSI's, neither having any problems handeling large shoutcast streams!
Anyone who runs, or understands how the shoutcast DNAS work's, will understand how low resource usage they are... the load on the CPU is almost always 0.00!!
I fail to see how there would be an industry at all, if you needed 2GB RAM to run a decent sized server...
:)
Dan_EZPZ 04-07-2008, 07:20 AM I agree with Matt.
We use 1.4ghz boxes with 1GB ram to stream our shoutcast servers. The load is always at 0.00, the highest we've ever seen is 0.10
We run huge streams from it with over 300 listeners... it copes fine, but eats bandwidth like there's no tomorrow :)
SecureGrid 04-07-2008, 08:34 AM I must agree too, we have a 1 GHz with 512mb Ram that holds 3000 listeners it is low usage shoutcast is nothing to it even with that large listener count
darshdude 04-07-2008, 12:24 PM I must be really doing something wrong then. And definitely wasting a lot of money on the server. how is it that my shoucast server goes down so often on low ram system compared to a high one and i only have like about 250 listiners @ 128K . Hummmm...... U guys really got me thinking now.....
Dan_EZPZ 04-07-2008, 01:16 PM Do you offer Auto-DJ? Its a resource hog..
darshdude 04-07-2008, 01:18 PM Do you offer Auto-DJ? Its a resource hog..
if ur asking me. nope my dj application runs off a windows server.
Dan_EZPZ 04-07-2008, 01:21 PM You must have something else on that servers then. There's no way a single stream of 250 listeners will eat 2GB of RAM.
darshdude 04-07-2008, 07:31 PM Well Cpanel Is Running On the server. there is hardly any activity except when it recieves its updates. processor usage is like 00.16%
Extreme43 04-08-2008, 07:28 AM I HAVE TRIED THAT I DOSENT WORK.. u really need a good vps to run shoutcast which is almost the same price as paying for shoutcast hosting or get you own dedicated managed Server.
VPS can only support 10 to 20 listeners...at a high bitrate u need at least 2 GB memory to run a decent shoutcast server.
He is quite right here, OpenVZ & Shoutcast are a big no no. The way OpenVZ and shoutcast handle memory conflict very much. Our shoutcast VPS servers experienced the same problem and we came across no resolution but to change to XEN.
If you find a XEN VPS provider or i also hear virtuozzo works better with shoutcast you should have no problems. Though there are many honest hosts whom manage their servers very well. If you do not want to hassle with the constant security threats and such a dedicated or VP server will throw at you than i would highly recommend a shoutcast host. Do a little research and you should find a nice comfortable host.
Just a note about the lowering of bitrates, most hosts will allow you to change hosts with a reduction of costs. Many are flexible in their plans and data usage.
darshdude 04-08-2008, 11:44 AM You must have something else on that servers then. There's no way a single stream of 250 listeners will eat 2GB of RAM.
It dosen't eat all the ram but my shoutcast server kept going down when i had 1 gb so i had to add one more and its fine since then.
Dave - Just199 04-08-2008, 12:49 PM shoutcast might actually use a negative amount of resources!
Seriously everyone how really knows how shoutcast works knows that you can run tons of shoutcast instances on a vps. If you cant.. GET A NEW VPS.
imo running shoutcast on vps is not good wrt performance. plenty of dedicated server companies out there has good offers in many of the threads here in this forum.
keywolf 04-18-2008, 10:36 AM SHOUTcast & OpenVZ dont work very well, They are memory intensive for some reaosn on OpenVZ and are also CPU intensive on a VPS due to the CPU limits. We moved all our streams from a VPS to a Dual Xeon and its much better on a dedicated server.
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