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HG-Daniel
01-10-2008, 07:52 PM
I know this has been asked before, but why isn't there a game hosting forum yet? Yes, I know thats what the emerging technologies forum is for... but game hosting isn't an emerging technology anymore.. its established, and has been for a few years already. This isn't 1999.

With so many current game server providers and clients it would be foolish for WHT to continue thinking of game hosting as an emerging technology.

:agree:

SoftWareRevue
01-11-2008, 12:49 AM
... why isn't there a game hosting forum yet? ...Because there hasn't been enough support for it.

Whenever it's been suggested, there didn't seem to be enough interest.

When I look around the forum, I don't see a bunch of "game hosting" topics that would be better suited in their own forum.

If there appears a need, we'll fill it. I just don't see a need at this point.

CArmstrong
01-11-2008, 12:52 AM
This is brought up every 4 months or so. Each time there are the same few people in support of it, but most people just don't really seem to care. The SEO forum was added because there were enough posts to warrant a new forum. The Emerging Tech forum is relatively new itself, and it isn't exactly bursting at the seams with posts.

If you can get enough people interested, maybe it'll be considered. ;)

HG-Daniel
01-11-2008, 01:21 AM
I know there aren't a tremendous amount of posts about game hosting but theres one at least every other day. I know that still isn't enough but if a game hosting forum was added I'm sure people would post. I don't know if you've looked around, but there is a good amount of GSPs representatives on these forums.

I don't want to drag this out too long as I know you guys are probably bored of these posts, I just think this industry is large enough for a forum of its own on these forums.

JonBiloh
01-11-2008, 02:13 AM
Maybe it's just me, but it always seems like the Game Server threads always get lots of attention when posted.

BrianFarrell
01-11-2008, 02:13 AM
I'll run with Daniel here, running a GSP myself I think it would be valuable to have a reputable forum where people can get good reviews.

A few forums have tried and failed, and like anything, if it's given a shot and tanks, you can always remove.

Chalk it up as another vote, whatever weight it may pull.

SoftWareRevue
01-11-2008, 10:34 AM
:think: We did give the Windows Hosting a shot as a sub-forum under Web Hosting. I don't think there'd be much harm in creating another sub-forum. :think:

Xenos
01-11-2008, 11:44 AM
Many of the game hosting posts I have seen are kids wanting to rent a $100 dedicated server with the intent of being a GSP and becoming the next Bill Gates. They usually don't have a clue how to manage a dedicated server and/or have a business plan. Your average person that rents a game server does not visit WHT to post reviews on a GSP. I have seen an increase of people coming here wanting to rent a dedicated server to run large game servers for their clan or community. They would be checking dedicated server provider reviews and the offers forum.

TheInquistor
01-11-2008, 07:06 PM
Well i came here tday to look into this myself. I am hsoting a NWN game server and well my local internet will be in shambles for about a year till the new company comes in and gives me some decent internet.

The one thing i didnt find tho is a list of servers that do this type of hosting. I have my website hosted at TCH but am looking to check into a host to host the actuall game until a time when i can do this myself.

Can anyone by chance point me in the right direction or tell me what to serach out in order to find a list of hosting companies that i can view that do this?

HG-Daniel
01-11-2008, 07:35 PM
Many of the game hosting posts I have seen are kids wanting to rent a $100 dedicated server with the intent of being a GSP and becoming the next Bill Gates. They usually don't have a clue how to manage a dedicated server and/or have a business plan. Your average person that rents a game server does not visit WHT to post reviews on a GSP. I have seen an increase of people coming here wanting to rent a dedicated server to run large game servers for their clan or community. They would be checking dedicated server provider reviews and the offers forum.

Maybe because theres no section for them to post reviews.

Discussions wouldn't solely be about what dedicated server to rent, they would be questions dealing about technical problems, features that certain GSPs offer, reviews on hosts, and inquires for opinions on a certain host they're interested in.

If not its own forum, the least that could be done is to make a subforum just for game hosting in another section. Maybe in the web hosting section, after all, game hosting is a certain type of web hosting. Or just its own subforum in emerging tech.

Please don't assume every GSP is run by a "kid." If anything, I think the web hosting industry has the same amount, if not more, of "kids" operating their own "company" because of the of ease buying some $20 reseller account and a domain.

whysee
01-17-2008, 08:50 AM
A game hosting forum would really facilitate things around here. GameServer threads are kinda messy from point A to point C, since some users don't know where to go when they want to talk about gameservers. Sure most of the users here know that it's in the emerging tech forums but a sub forum at least dedicated solely to game hosting would make things easy and who knows maybe one a day a seperate section !? :)

TheInquistor
01-17-2008, 08:53 AM
I didnt know anything about it, but was able to talk to my existing host to get set up. I had no knowledge of specs or anythng or what would be required. It would be a good sticky iun that thread...if it becomes available

ub3r
01-17-2008, 08:57 AM
:think: We did give the Windows Hosting a shot as a sub-forum under Web Hosting. I don't think there'd be much harm in creating another sub-forum. :think:

Could you please not put it under webhosting forum?


Make subforums under emerging technologies for voip and game servers if you have to. You'd have a good excuse for many subforums under that because there are many emerging technologies.

Jdubz31
01-17-2008, 09:23 AM
Could you please not put it under webhosting forum?


Make subforums under emerging technologies for voip and game servers if you have to. You'd have a good excuse for many subforums under that because there are many emerging technologies.

Agreed. Webhosting doesn't really fit. Emerging technologies isn't great, but it would be better than a webhosting subforum. Could you maybe start-up another forum called 'Speciality Hosting' or something similar and stick it under there? Between VOIP and Game Hosting, I think that forum could prosper.....

If you need any assistance with this forum, let me know.

JohnJ
01-17-2008, 12:27 PM
Maybe more people would notice the game server industry if it had its own forum. It seems that everything else has a forum but this specific subject. Why don't you guys put a forum up and see how well it goes? It's not like it will kill you or anything.

BrianFarrell
01-17-2008, 12:30 PM
I think where it's put is less important than actually obtaining it. That was the original focus in this thread. Letting the admins decide where it's best fit and than leaving it up to us (people in the game server industry) and interested newcomers to keep it worth having is the best way to do it.

Especially coupled with VOIP, I don't think there'd by any shortage of threads and activity.

HG-Daniel
01-23-2008, 11:41 PM
So whats up with this? It'll never hurt to try. Its own subforum in emerging tech is what everyone seems to be preferring.. so it doesn't necessarily need its own forum (for now)

CArmstrong
01-24-2008, 12:00 AM
I really fail to see how making game hosting its own sub-forum would attract more traffic. The proper place for it (as of now) is in Emerging Tech, and we only see maybe 3-4 new threads a day. If there were dozens of new threads and they all pertained to game hosting, then maybe it would be time to consider a new forum. As of right now, though, I just don't see the need.

HG-Daniel
01-24-2008, 12:09 AM
I don't think its a matter of attracting more visitors.. I think of it more of serving the game hosting people that are already here. Theres no other forum similar enough to game hosting for people to feel comfortable to post threads about game servers in. When it came to SEO there were 3-4 other forum categories where SEO threads could easily fit in. But with game hosting the dedicated servers forum is the only one that is remotely related to game hosting. And the Emerging Tech forum is easily overlooked. Honestly, I didn't even know game hosting belonged in Emerging Tech until a few weeks after I started frequenting this site.

There are only 3-4 threads/posts a day in the SEO forum. I don't see how simply giving game hosting its own subforum would hurt WHT at all.

CArmstrong
01-24-2008, 12:19 AM
What if Emerging Tech were renamed to Specialty Hosting or something similar, as mentioned earlier in this thread?

HG-Daniel
01-24-2008, 12:26 AM
I honestly don't think that would make too much of a difference. I think Game Hosting (and VOIP) deserve their own subforums in Emerging Technologies. (Or Specialty Hosting)

Emerging Technologies/Specialty Hosting (Parent Forum)
--Game Hosting (subforum)
--VOIP (subforum)
--Other (subforum.. or hosting other than the 2 above could be placed in the parent forum)

I know that its more of a risk giving Game Hosting its own forum. I personally don't like forums with alot of forum categories.. but I don't think subforums hurt at all. I think what most people in this thread want is to at least give it a try. If it doesn't work then I can say on my part that I'll be satisfied at least knowing that it wasn't dismissed immediately.

CArmstrong
01-24-2008, 12:49 AM
We're still back to the same problem though. You mentioned SEO as your example. We had so many posts pertaining to SEO that we saw the need to create a forum just for that topic. Once we opened the SEO forum, we had a few mods move several months worth of SEO posts from the Web Design forum to the new SEO forum. I went back and looked through recent topics in both the dedicated and colocation forums, and found only a few game hosting-related threads that would need moving.

Like I said before, there are only 3 or 4 new threads a day in the Emerging Tech forum. If we split those into 2 or more sub-forums, we have a really watered-down section.

I do respect what you're asking, and I want to reassure you that nobody is dismissing the notion. If the community as a whole wants something, and it's deemed a benefit to the community, then that will be added. The thing is, each time this forum is proposed, it's the same few people championing it. If there was an overwhelming demand for the forum then I'd imagine it'd take a lot less convincing.

HG-Daniel
01-24-2008, 01:02 AM
Well like I said, SEO easily fit in a few of the other forums. But the only forum somehow related to game hosting is the dedicated servers forum. And even there its a bit discouraging to post because someone might be afraid they'd be posting in the wrong forum since game hosting is a bit more similar to shared hosting... but they obviously can't post in the web hosting forum since that forum is dedicated to shared web hosting. (as in http servers)

This is a very large forum and decisions like these can't be made without spectacular pressure from it's community. But like I've said, I think it should just be given a chance.. if it doesn't work out the subforum could always be deleted.

I appreciate you taking time out of your schedule to reply to my posts :-)