Hello,
I am currently a web hosting provider, and spent a lot of time putting together a line of web hosting packages that are unbeatable in service. Even though the page is not fully functional yet, you can still check them out.

-Unix Hosting
http://www.webdivisor.com/dir/web_hosting/sbh/250/
-Windows Hosting
http://www.webdivisor.com/dir/web_hosting/swh/250/

Even though those offers are not available to the public yet. The main web site, can be found at http://www.webdivisor.com. But since I like the forum system on webhostingtalk.com I will hook it up. Just post back if interested... Let me know what you also think of the different packages...

get rid of the unlmited BS will ya?

it'll put people off.

You are going to find out REAL QUICK that the people around here don't like the word Unlimited, especially when applied to bandwidth.

:puke: Unlimited

WebDivisor’s customers are privileged to be offered unlimited amount of traffic for their web sites. The sole purpose of this is to provide large space for web documents, not for off site storage area for electronic files. All or 90% of your web pages must be linked with files stored on the WebDivisor’s server. Websites found to contain non-html documents or large numbers of unlinked files are subject to warning, suspension or account cancellation at the discretion of WebDivisor Management. Any one violating WebDivisor space/site transfer will be notified and given 2 days to remedy the problem, if the problem is not resolved in the time given, the client will be billed for the overages.

That paragraph was taken from the terms of service located at:
http://www.webdivisor.com/dir/documents

Unlimited is a good thing with WebDivisor... =]

So it's not unlimited.

So don't PUT unlimited.

There's no such thing as a free lunch and anybody who advertises unlimited bandwidth is just looking for trouble

Besides.. your post is on the wrong board

It is unlimited, basically it is stating that, you can not use your webserver as a warez machine. To serve files to the internet. If you do not do that then you do not have a problem.

Oh give over!! All our AUPs state that, but nobody in their right mind offers unlimited bandwidth

http://www.unlimband.com/

We're not picking a fight, but your site will be prejudged straight away. There are sites specially made to show up "unlimited" sites telling people to stay away.

On here we always recommend people NOT to use hosts that offer unlimited bandwidth.

In the end it's your choice, I would change it though.

Originally posted by webDivisor
Let me know what you also think of the different packages...
I'm sure you'll get plenty of opinions on the matter...

Just because you are unable to offer it, no need to hate on me man. :eek3:

I think I've found you your first big customer. There was a person requiring 75 GB a day transfer the other day which shouldn't be a problem on your unlimited bandwidth plan. Should it?

Read my post AGAIN!

We don't give two dogs bollocks who can and can't offer unlimited bandwidth. It's the point that it is a false statement.

This is what you think...

My 5ds3 - 2oc3 - 2oc-12 Network Backbone, has its threshold of bandwidth transfer per day. That maximum output. Therefore I can not say, Unlimited bandwidth correct? Correct! But I still offer it why? I am able to upgrade/downgrade our burstable lines in a snap. More bandwidth required, the more bandwidth you will get. To JIM_UK who said, he has my first big customer, who transfers 75 GB a day. Well hell, refer him to me, as long as it follows my terms of service agreement, posted above.

=]

Thats fine if you claim to do exactly that, BUT it will truly back fire if you cannot.

No hard feelings. ;)

Originally posted by webDivisor
To JIM_UK who said, he has my first big customer, who transfers 75 GB a day. Well hell, refer him to me, as long as it follows my terms of service agreement, posted above.

=]

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=65520

Keep us posted on how it goes :)

No hard feelings at all. =]

Maybe this can be a revolution in the WHT standards heh

Thank JIM_UK, I just posted on that forum regarding the 75 GB/transfer per day...

LMAO!!! Slap me if I sound retarded, but explain to me how in gods name you're able to offer this guy a package for $16.99 a month when others are quoting $3000 - $12000

hahaha...

Magic

Let me know what you also think of the different packages

Had you just posted an offer, opinions would not have been appropriate. However, you asked. Therefore, your indignation at the responses is inappropriate.

The overwhelming opinion of professional web hosts is very anti-unlimited bandwidth. While you are entitled to your own opinion, don't expect it to be endorsed here. Yes, you are correct in saying you can expand, but that costs....and you know and we know that you can't offer unlimited bandwidth at $16.99 per month. I have over 50 high traffic customers who fit every word within your terms of service, but whom each use over 100GB of transfer per month (10 use over 500GB). None of these exceed any other offerings in your $16.99 plan. They all just happen to have extremely popular sites.

BTW, I love ur site design. You did a very nice job on it.

Thank You Mekhu =]

and to Incognito...
anytime those high bandwidth websites are a burden on your servers, you can always send them my way... =)

Not trying to be a dick, but 3 smart people could put you out of business.

Unlimited is impossible.

You can't work quick enough to handle unlimited, its impossible.

Care to test me? Give me an account, and I will prove you wrong.

Ooooh, challenge. I want the URL after it's done. Then we'll slashdot it!

Ok. I have a friends whos site is pushing ~10mbps a month. This goes up by a lot monthly. It is mostly some hosted sites he hosts for free. Can you host him for $25 a month and GURANTEE youll even be in buisness for a year?

let me get this straight...

Doesn't matter how popular your web site is. My servers can handle. As long as it follows the server guidlines. Like no serving warez files, no distributing mp3s. If you have a legit website with legit content, and get a billion visitors a day. I will host you.

Hrmm. Unlimited bandwidth....... Web I guess what they are trying to say is. You could go down easily offering this. If they are using way over what they are paying for wheres your income coming from? If you have all of those lines that you claim to have. How are you affording it seriously? With the kind of deals your offering the only customers you will find will be kids wanting hosting. Not that it's bad or anything but half of them will want it for free. Some wont be able to pay. So you will be out of a customer. Unlimited bandwidth sounds like a good deal. Do you offer dedicated servers or reselling or something? Think how easily someone could run you down with unlimited bandwidth. They could have hundreds of customers sitting on there and be making hundreds of dollars while your making what $16 and some change? This just doesnt make since. Im just trying to help you and save you from becoming a rack shack wannabee.

Originally posted by dbzgod
and GURANTEE youll even be in buisness for a year?

Even AOL can't do that.

If he says he can do it..what's the problem? The film XXX or whatever it is called is not about porn...so his unlimited is not about unlimited..what's the big deal. Take it or leave it. Look after your own business interests and your competitors wont have any customers.

Simon

Spectacular...

thank you for the helpful advice, and the way you put it...
I understand your point, and the thoughts that might run through your mind when you think UNLIMITED... Who, how, how much, where, how long? All questions...

If someone say's they can, then they can. Can't judge a person by the text they write.. :eek:

Though I would like to know how you can offer Unlimited bandwidth. I don't think you will make any money with this. If you think you do please tell me why you think this and how you think you are going to manage this.

Originally posted by webDivisor
Spectacular...

thank you for the helpful advice, and the way you put it...
I understand your point, and the thoughts that might run through your mind when you think UNLIMITED... Who, how, how much, where, how long? All questions...

If someone say's they can, then they can. Can't judge a person by the text they write.. :eek:

Well..I never quite put it like that...but don't set your stool out by what I say either...some folks round these parts are not that happy with what I do either.

Whatever you do with your business...JUST DO YOUR BEST and try to satisfy your customers. If you have a plan...stick with it. If it goes wrong...adjust it...but don't let yourself be swayed by fools or you will become one yourself.

Simon

Originally posted by webDivisor
let me get this straight...

Doesn't matter how popular your web site is. My servers can handle. As long as it follows the server guidlines. Like no serving warez files, no distributing mp3s. If you have a legit website with legit content, and get a billion visitors a day. I will host you.

Okay, I have a buddy that works down the street from me at the yahoo headquarters. I think we can safely say that Yahoo fits into your guidelines. Let me call him up right quick so he can tell his bosses that they can host their sites with you for the low, low, price of $16.99 per 2GB of webspace. I'm sure they'll love to jump on that.

I love this bit:
"Site list with 2500 search engines"
Could you be so kind as to provide a list?

And now... for the usual ToS statements limiting "Unlimited" bandwidth....

Customers name not run IRC bots on shared servers ... serial numbers, and or anything else determined by WebDivisor not to be suitable use of WebDivisor’s services, including server resource abuse.

and worse...

To maintain the integrity of our shared hosting service, the following limitations will apply:

Sites who have 50% of the files transferred as graphics, or sites offering download archives where over 50% of their monthly traffic is from file downloads. Sites using more than 30% of the system resources for more than 60 seconds, and sites that run multimedia files and the downloads are over 50% of their monthly bandwidth.

For those that do not qualify for the unlimited bandwidth service, will be charged $20/1GB/Month will be billed after exceeding the 20 GB per month mark. If you want to pay for pre paid bandwidth, you will be billed $10/1GB/month.

You will receive a notice to pay for your overages within 7 days of the notice. If you do not pay for the overages, your site will be disabled on the seventh day of your notice. This does not apply to co-locations clients. Co-Location clients will be billed directly for the overages based on the switch reports. WebDivisor has the sole decision to deactivate any or all servers.

WebDivisor will the sole arbiter as to what constitutes to a violation of the provision.


So much for unlimited bandwidth... add this one to the list.

Originally posted by ServerSonic
And now... for the usual ToS statements limiting "Unlimited" bandwidth....



and worse...




So much for unlimited bandwidth... add this one to the list.

Sounds pretty unlimited to me...at least the use of the word unlimited anyway.

Simon

Blacknight - There is probably over 2500 here http://www.searchenginecolossus.com/

If you still don't believe the proof listed, give me an account, my offer is still on the table.

HAHAHAHAHA

I if I didn't like the guy I would send a client I am trying to help out over to sign up with you and watch you eat that unlimited claim.

He gets over 4 million page views a month with the avg page being 40k in size that is 156250 MB/month or 488.4 Kbit/sec and that is just on one site he has 10 of these monsters to host and he meets your TOS in every way.

What website would this be monte?

A client that contacted me looking for hosting, I am trying to find him a dedicated deal right now. I am not going to post the URL right now so every $2.00 host here can rush over and claim they can do it cheaper.

He has been kicked 6 times by shared host that claimed they could handle his sites but choked when he really used the resources they sold him.

Monte , PM me a link. Im not a host , nore do i deal with hosting, i wont run and say i do it cheaper, heh.

:) Wow, this thread is getting pretty interesting...You realize webDivisor that these so called unlimited packages you are offering these people are going to be CLOSELY monitored by the WHT members!!!

What I do not get, is why you offer unlimited. Why not offer large amounts, more than other companies offer. Also, when someone that knows about hosting sees unlimited bandwidth, they will not host with you.

I say you just give high figures.

Originally posted by ServerSonic
To maintain the integrity of our shared hosting service, the following limitations will apply:

[b]Sites who have 50% of the files transferred as graphics...
Just out of curiosity, doesn't just about every site have way more than 50% of their files transferred as graphics? On most sites I've seen, one HTML page might load up 10-20 graphics at a time. Certainly higher than a 1:2 ration (50%).

Basically, these unlimited deals all work out the same way. If you have a high transfer site, 99.9% of the time you won't qualify for these hosts, so my suggestion is to start elsewhere in the first place, as $20 or $10/gig overage isn't something I'd personally pay.

There's no magic unlimted bandwidth fairy and those who think there is, are generally the ones posting the offers. Been here long enough to realize at least this.

By the way, a little digging on your domain raises a few questions.

Are new accounts put on your 'unlimited domain' VPS account (I won't even go into maximum's unlimited thing :rolleyes: ). or ???

Regarding the datacenter and your lines. I assume you are speaking in the 'My apartment' type 'my', not the 'my datacenter, my lines' as if you actually owned and built this datacenter. This has been an issue here before, and everytime it comes up, it leads to 4 page threads, so please clarify this at the beginning.

Originally posted by DoobyWho
Blacknight - There is probably over 2500 here http://www.searchenginecolossus.com/
Oh come on! We all know that you won't be submitting to most of them because:
1. 99% of them aren't search engines - they're directories (see footnote)
2. IF you submit sites to 2500 anything they'll probably all be FFA pages apart from the few legitimate search engines that we all know.
3. With reference to 2. You probably use some kind of automated submission program, so you won't even be able to submit to Altavista and a lot of the others as they block automated submissions.

"A "search engine" is a Web site that employs bots to search the Web. Search engines take the information gathered by its bots and use it to create a searchable index of the Net. The "search" in search engine refers to the searching the bots do, not the searching you do to find things on the Net. Directories are similar but do not employ search bots and are organized hierarchically (search engines are often organized solely by keyword search).
" source: http://www.greenapple.com/support/library/Glossary_Introductory.htm

Some really nice comments from all of you guys...

but Unlimited Bandwidth is what I am going to stick with...

As much as I dislike the fact that you are doing unlimited bandwidth, I do have to say I respect the fact that you stick to your plan. More power to you if you can pull it off without leaving a steady stream of PO'ed customers:)

One nice comment... your design kicks!

Originally posted by ServerSonic

One nice comment... your design kicks!
Agreed! Very nice. I love the flash effects

Originally posted by webDivisor
WebDivisor’s customers are privileged to be offered unlimited amount of traffic for their web sites. The sole purpose of this is to provide large space for web documents, not for off site storage area for electronic files. All or 90% of your web pages must be linked with files stored on the WebDivisor’s server. Websites found to contain non-html documents or large numbers of unlinked files are subject to warning, suspension or account cancellation at the discretion of WebDivisor Management. Any one violating WebDivisor space/site transfer will be notified and given 2 days to remedy the problem, if the problem is not resolved in the time given, the client will be billed for the overages.

That paragraph was taken from the terms of service located at:
http://www.webdivisor.com/dir/documents

Unlimited is a good thing with WebDivisor... =]

why are u talking in 3rd person?

<<MOD NOTE: It is a quote from the TOS from the site>>

Yes, love that design. Is that your own, or did you get someone to do it? It is rather spliffing. :cool:

Thanks ServerSonic I agree with you and your comments made alot of sense, and Blackman for the nice comments...

and yes I am the sole designer of webdivisor.com, I mean every single detail has been perfected and created by me. Very time consuming. =]

Design is alright, no offense to ANYONE but I think the general standard for design quality is quite low :D Please don't flame me, I actually thought the flash effect was lame and serves NO POINT.

I love mediatemple's design though. It's so smart!