Hi

I just read about a perl/php script that does automatic update of the content of your site.
Anyone know where can I find such? I tried the usual script sites but found nothing there

thanks in advance

Originally posted by jigg
Hi

I just read about a perl/php script that does automatic update of the content of your site.
Anyone know where can I find such? I tried the usual script sites but found nothing there

thanks in advance

If you don't find anything, shoot me an email, as this would be an easy thing to hack together. I don't think I'd charge you anything, I'd just need some free time.

Tim,

If you could hack something similar to how vB does its template system, I think a whole load of ppl (myself and eva2000.com included) would thank you (and possibly even be prepared to offer money).

Have a look at Typo3 (http://www.typo3.com) for some reference on what a CMS should do (but you don't need to be as comprehensive as Kasper's system is), and also incorporate some of vB's features if you can.

Then release it on HotScripts and watch the visitors fly in ;)

yes i'd definitely would thank you indeed - i posted at

http://vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10392

and the closest thing is eSuite script but the author, Ed Sullivan (one of the vB developers) has yet to complete it. check out mArticle script by Ed part of eSuite and you'll see it's the closest thing to how vB operates.

http://www.esuitetoday.com/

http://www.esuitetoday.com/marticle.php

Oops, yeah, forgot to mention I'd prefer PHP :D

How about a drawing up a list of features? I'd like to throw my key board at it to ;)

This is a type of script I have been looking for for months. I would DEFINITELY be interested in it.

Quite a reaction. I thought that this sort of thing was much more available on a large scale. I'm surprised this isn't all over the place now? Tell you what, all you guy's interested get together and list all the features you want, in what manner, what langauges you'd want to use and any sort of general structing and how you'd want to have control. Be as general or specific about these that you wish to be and we'll go from there.

I have a better script that can do more than what BC said, I ve the script is followed at:

http://www.hotscripts.com/Detailed/8455.html

Originally posted by SarasotaWeb
I have a better script that can do more than what BC said, I ve the script is followed at:

http://www.hotscripts.com/Detailed/8455.html

I figured there was something (more than one) out there. Does this fit everyone's needs? I don't want to code something to only end up repeating an existing, free products features. :-)

Originally posted by SarasotaWeb
I have a better script that can do more than what BC said, I ve the script is followed at:

http://www.hotscripts.com/Detailed/8455.html

Joseph, as a matter of fact I've got phpCMS running on my server. While it's great for how it manages everything else, it's lacking two big features all pure CMS should have : a 'word-processor' interface to enter/edit/delete your articles. As well the other ideal would be to provide an interface for creating a site-wide template and then be able to specify where you want to enter new text, images, etc.

Tim, have a look at phpCMS (above) and test the system out. It's pretty damn good, but the lack of the word-processor interface + flexibility in creating/adapting templates are the things holding it back from really breaking it out.

BC,

Really? I need something like that, so I can only update 1 file and it will change all menu stuff on all pages on the fly which I wil need, cuz I will plan have over 300+ pages on my website so ...

Is it hard to setup? I would mind see why it has lack features you metioned? is thoses important?

Thanks!

Originally posted by SarasotaWeb
BC,

Really? I need something like that, so I can only update 1 file and it will change all menu stuff on all pages on the fly which I wil need, cuz I will plan have over 300+ pages on my website so ...

Is it hard to setup? I would mind see why it has lack features you metioned? is thoses important?

Thanks!

It can do the menu updating bit, but then you have to manually insert it into the template... I want the ability to do that online instead of having to edit the template offline and FTP'ing it back to my server again.

The problem is, even though phpCMS can handle the number of menus you can do (and it's pretty good at handling sub-menus), the system is rather complex and requires a lot of updating particularly if you have over 300 pages. You really need to be up to speed with the documentation.

It's very easy to set up (use Babelfish@Altavista to help you through the setup process and interpret the liesmich.txt file - it's really drop+go, just fiddle with a few permissions).

With the features I mentioned, they are important because there will be plenty of occasions where I'd prefer to be editing the stuff online instead of offline (particularly if I'm somewhere else on the planet) so online makes it easier.

Originally posted by BC
Originally posted by SarasotaWeb
I have a better script that can do more than what BC said, I ve the script is followed at:

http://www.hotscripts.com/Detailed/8455.html

Joseph, as a matter of fact I've got phpCMS running on my server. While it's great for how it manages everything else, it's lacking two big features all pure CMS should have : a 'word-processor' interface to enter/edit/delete your articles. As well the other ideal would be to provide an interface for creating a site-wide template and then be able to specify where you want to enter new text, images, etc.

Tim, have a look at phpCMS (above) and test the system out. It's pretty damn good, but the lack of the word-processor interface + flexibility in creating/adapting templates are the things holding it back from really breaking it out.


I downloaded it earlier today. I'll take a look at it when I have some free time in the next day or so. That would be an easy modification. If people want, feel free to be as specific as you can about what modifications you'd want to see in this existing product and list them here. Since it's GPL, I can do this and I don't think that the author would mind posting the modified version for people to download.

OK...... I had a bit of a think about this and added some other stuff to a feature list. I'd code it all myself in PHP, but I don't know enough so I thought I'd better hand it to the experts ;)

I've listed the features from a user viewpoint + process.. You'll see what I mean as I go through. Others, feel free to add some other features you'd like to see.

I've also added (for Tim's reference) what phpCMS can do and can't do at this point in time.
===============================================
User authentication
Either .htaccess or through PHP/MySQL authentication. PHP/MySQL authentication is better if you need access for multiple users; .htaccess is sufficient for single blog sites like myself. (phpCMS - PHP (no MySQL) authentication only).
------------------------------------------
Creating/editing your site
On entry to the administration area, I'd like to see...
- A listing of all files present, and the ability to create/edit/delete pages. A graphical representation would be good (Windows Explorer style?). (phpCMS - already there in File Manager)
- A facility or interface to create/edit a site template (and if possible speed up template caching using phpCMS's parser or FastTemplates or phpLib or Smarty), and determine whether it's applicable for only one page, one area (or sub-directory), or the entire site. (phpCMS - no such thing yet)
- The ability to upload/delete images to the server. (so essentially, almost like an online FTP interface) (phpCMS - already pretty much there)
- The ability to modify web server permissions on each file (phpCMS - already there)
------------------------------------------
Within the templates
My vision is that after creating the templates, you assign 'areas' to insert text or images into the template through custom PHP tags. The following section has not been applied in phpCMS.
- Have a word-processing facility or typing interface to allow the user to 'create new articles/entries' and be able to insert text, HTML, JavaScript, custom PHP code, etc. Also have the ability to display 'literal code' (e.g. display PHP or Perl code on a page without it actually being interpreted).
- Once the article is created it is then stored in an 'archive' and it (the archive) can be easily shown live or kept secret (i.e. restricted to admin area only). The archive + articles should be in a MySQL DB, or PostgreSQL DB if the option is available. (get someone else to do the PostgreSQL dirty work for you ;))
- Be able to specify different categories or topics for articles to 'belong to'.
- Have the ability to hold back from publishing the article straight away; or, by clicking a checkbox, publish that article live straight away.
- Have the ability to publish a blurb and accompanying image on the front page (a la SitePoint style (http://www.sitepoint.com)). This can be another section and the info/blurb doesn't necessarily have to be pulled from the articles direct. I just want the ability to enter the blurb, choose an image and click 'Publish' straight away, and have it appear on the front page.
------------------------------------------
Techie details
- gZip compression (phpCMS - already there)
- Search engine friendly URLs (phpCMS - already there. Or easily use techniques a la SitePoint/Geekarea.org style - more explanations available if you require)
- Optional - multi-user levels (Admin, Moderator, ordinary writer, read-only, etc.) (phpCMS - not available)
- Optional - site statistics and log stats into MySQL DB, with stats viewable from admin area. Incorporate one of the PHP stats applications from HotScripts if you can.

And other stuff like integration of polls, other PHP applications etc. I can easily do myself (or use phpCMS's way).

I know some of it may be a bit too much, but the groundwork is already there and personally it's as comprehensive as I can get it... See how you go. Good luck!

[Edited by BC on 03-05-2001 at 10:29 PM]

BC,

if thoses features are updated, I wld use it, as right now its no good

By the way, I do want to make one distinction : for those who were going to suggest PHPNuke (http://www.phpnuke.org), it's not flexible enough to suit my needs (the blocks on both sides being a point). The PHP/HTML code is a wreck and hard to navigate through, and it doesn't really suit my purposes. The themes are also pretty hard to code and pick apart properly. It also breaks under intensive server loads unless you optimise MySQL and run load balancing. And finally, there's no way to switch off the feedback system without breaking something else (which is my biggest bugbear).

I need a CMS, and I am willing to pay so maybe that motivates you....or one of you.

Any comments on http://publish.ez.no and phpnuke as content management contenders? I kinda like what I've seen with the ezPublish interface.

Shri

EZPublish looks interesting.... See my comments on PHPNuke above.

Perhaps out of all the programs, we can agree on the best general concept, structure and features. It's fine to have everything you could want, but it should be planned and prioritized as per features, so it's not too confusing or too much, unless people want to use the other options.

Originally posted by Tim_Greer
Perhaps out of all the programs, we can agree on the best general concept, structure and features. It's fine to have everything you could want, but it should be planned and prioritized as per features, so it's not too confusing or too much, unless people want to use the other options.

Perhaps you could make add-ons that some people want, but not every one needs?

Though I'd be interested in paying for something custom...I'll post in Advertising Forum.

Originally posted by Fiber
Though I'd be interested in paying for something custom...I'll post in Advertising Forum.

With the people involved, I think we could add probably most things people will agree on. Add-on's or whatever. See how far any or all of us are willing to go for a GPL program, and maybe we can get all the features hammered out and not have anyone require to pay for anything custom, if we'll all want those features anyway. So, hopefully that'd be the outcome.

The PHP/Perl script is Egrail. It's available on http://www.egrail.org and it does all you want and much more. Including the word-processor interface and a spell-checker. You can extend it with PHP at will.

ezPublisher looks nice, but installing it is a real pain as it requires ImageMagick compiled.

Loai, the link to eGrail is fabulous! It certainly looks like doing what I want. I'll give it a good work-out (once the access to the Net speeds up here - the main router link between Perth + Palo Alto is playing up badly on Australian Net connections, particularly broadband) and I'll report back.

Tim, it looks like eGrail *may* do the job. Thanks very much for your offer of help though - certainly will keep it in mind for future reference ;)

Hey, if I can save the time of doing something that's already been done, than I'm all for it. :-) perhaps if we find something exists, it might only need small modifications, or perhaps some modifications to improve some speed or function, but it might very well be something that doesn't need any changes or fixing up at all. That would be nice.

Tim, eGrail put out two versions of this software. One is open source and the other is commercial. Although they don't say it publically, I have this feeling that they left out some important features from the open source version to leave it very much crippled.

For example, there's no way for you to create a new site! You have to somehow copy the data in the samplesite database and figure out how it works. No documentation :)

If these annoying things can be fixed (I am sure they can) eGrail would be a great resource for many people. It is written in both PHP and Perl. PHP is used for the web interface portion, while Perl is used for generating the static web pages.

If Zope and eGrail would get married, we can all live happily ever after :)

BC, you are most welcome. I do have it installed on my server if you like to play with it until your connection is up to speed just let me know.

Loai,

Now you say it! :D

Bugger.... And I was hoping I'd be away in a flash and be able to start straight away.

Tim, hmmm........ Maybe download eGrail (all 7.7MBs of it) and see what you can do about it? Then develop our own version of eGrail and make it available + Open Source! ;)

Sorry, forgot something....... (long week)

I also forgot to mention that eZ Publish also looks very, very good. Once you get past the ImageMagick installation stage it looks very promising. I'll keep working at it.

Originally posted by BC
Loai,

Now you say it! :D

Bugger.... And I was hoping I'd be away in a flash and be able to start straight away.

Tim, hmmm........ Maybe download eGrail (all 7.7MBs of it) and see what you can do about it? Then develop our own version of eGrail and make it available + Open Source! ;)

As long as it doesn't violate any copyrights that they will sue us for if we create something similar. I think it's usually best to ask them if it's okey to modify the free version to redistribute, give them their credit, etc. People often welcome it. So, if we add things for free that the other version has, I don't see why it'd be a problem. I'll download the free version and email the site and see what's up, so I know what's okay to do. I've never had any GNU/GPL site ever not allow such things to be done, so I'm sure it'll work out.

BC wahahaha sorry buddy :D But like I said these problems are just a bit "annoying" but you certainly can overcome them. With a few hours of scripting this software can become a great piece of art.

Tim, I believe modification is allowed as long as the new source code is available publically. Their license is here
http://www.egrail.org/license.html

You know why I (and probably most others) like E-Grail? It's because it doesn't look like it's an engine. To look at it you'd just assume it was hand coding at first glace. That's the beauty of it, and the problem I have with Nuke and it's copies.

If you're still thinking of building one similar I have a few ideas that might make it worthwhile. If it's correct that it's 7 meg, plus looking at some of the freeware needed to run it correctly it's not for everyone.

What I'd like to see in a similar product is the following:

- a consistant 20/60/20% page spread with navigation in the left side alone.
- right side is non essential areas, or outside linking
- header/footer options more consistant with design needs, rather than programming
- more options for the content areas other then the same old forum type news postings
-admin area with a 'module' area where new features could be plugged in (FAQ's, shopping cart, image gallery etc)
- smaller footprint and central installation files for setup (ie only need to change one main file for it to work on each server)
- easy setup on virtual accounts (ie no need for root access)

In a nutshell, something a webdesigner, or anyone else could just drop into an account, tweak a few things, and be running in no time. PHPNuke is a pretty easy setup - it's just not very pretty. It's also a slow load.

Anyway, just my 2c :)

Greg Moore

Greg, eGrail comes to around 18Megs when installed. This is
for the backend portion. Your website is extra. It would be
nice if there was a way to create sites to use the same backend scripts. I don't see why it cann't do what Zope does in that regard. If we can get it to do that. it could be installed once on the server and used by everyone without wasting too much space.

BC, ezPublisher looks very much like Nuke? It seems to me they support the same features. I am not sure why it needs all these extra software to run, but I will try to install it and see. I tried to get typo3 to work before and it did, only without ImageMagick :) Will try again.

Originally posted by Wazeh
Greg, eGrail comes to around 18Megs when installed. This is
for the backend portion

Hot damn! You've installed it? The obvious question is, does it do 18 meg worth of stuff (compared to 400k or so for Nuke) I really like it and am considering it, but I think the freeware additions like typeface etc may be a stumbling block...

Greg Moore

Greg, It is very powerful. You can compare it to Viginette's StoryServer which costs tons of money. I am not sure why it has to be 18Megs, but that's what you got :)

I will email you the access info so you can try it out.

Loai, if you could kindly e-mail me the link to eGrail I'll have a test drive.

Greg, on the contrary, eZ Publish seems to be very, very configurable. Just have a look at their sample sites and you'll see they have different layouts. I'll have a crack at it tomorrow if I get time (and once I can re-establish a connection to my server).

PHP-Nuke is great..... But it doesn't suit my needs.

My site is using phpnuke although I took all features out expect for who is online and template system. I think if you know a little bit of programming, you can modify phpnuke to suit your needs perhaps. The reason I recommend phpnuke is that it is very easy to setup. eZ Publish requires root access to install,right? I probably can't install ImageMagick also on my own. ;)

Egrail Commercial version

I got a call from a egrail sales, and after a good talk I asked for the price.

Well I don't think I will be in a hurry to buy it...

The entry level starts at AU$50,000

Originally posted by eddie
Egrail Commercial version

I got a call from a egrail sales, and after a good talk I asked for the price.

Well I don't think I will be in a hurry to buy it...

The entry level starts at AU$50,000



:eek: AU@50.000? Not $50? Eek!

:uzi: :bawling:

BTW, EZ Publish does look professional.

$50 000(AU) is about $4.95(US) plus a few shiny buttons at the moment *lmao*

actually about $25 000(US). I was wondering how come such a powerful system was free, but I know now. Maybe I missed it but what's the difference bewteen the commercial and the free version??

Also, BC, do you have a link to EzPublish? (I think I missed that too)...

Greg Moore

Yes klisis, eGrail is a serious competitor of Viginette's StoryServer which sells at around US$25K for entry level.
There are many other CM systems out there. If anyone is interested, here's a link to a page with brief description and a link to CMS pages http://www.camworld.com/cms/

Greg,

http://publish.ez.no

eGrail =$50K?????? Ouch! :(

What was the outcome of this? Did everyone find what they were looking for, or add anything to a list?

Originally posted by klisis
Originally posted by eddie
Egrail Commercial version

I got a call from a egrail sales, and after a good talk I asked for the price.

Well I don't think I will be in a hurry to buy it...

The entry level starts at AU$50,000



:eek: AU@50.000? Not $50? Eek!

:uzi: :bawling:

eek that's more than buying a couple of servers :eek:

So far eZ Publish looks pretty decent. When I whack it on the new server, get Lib2XML installed and get a demo site I'll let everyone have a peek.

Actually it looks a little PHP-Nukey for my liking. Oddly enough though the admin screen from the screenshot looks more like something I'd like to see as the front page *lol*

BC,

I'd still like to see your demo when it's done though :)

Greg Moore

OK, I've given up on eZ Publish. Despite the best efforts of felix220 and myself we simply couldn't get some of the pre-requisite packages (Lib2XML and QTDom) working properly (well, that's what the software says despite our efforts to re-build the RPMs).

Tim, how long would it take to build a CMS based on the above suggestions?

maybe 2weeks? tim?

Originally posted by kunal
maybe 2weeks? tim?

Holy bad timing, Batman! I completely lost track of this thread over 2 weeks ago and forgot about it! I'm deathly busy right now, so it's hard to estimate. With free time, two free weeks of time, I'm confident that I could code it to offer anything people could want. Two solid weeks of programming, could also result in a complete control panel as well, that would bury Cpanel/WHM... What do you think has more profit potential? I honestly still don't see why the Cpanel/WHM is even licensed, especially for so much, especially the headache's it causes (Believe me, I've been fixing those errors it causes for the entire duration I've been employed by company's that use them!), and I would think it'd be more reasonable to have it be a one time fee. Finally, this $100 or $200/mo. outside of VDI's network? A MONTH!? My goodness, it's hardly worth that as a one time fee!

What about a better control panel, first, so we can save a lot of people some money and only charge a one time fee of $50 or $100, or license it to *anyone* for maybe $15/mo. mass quantity will result in higher profit margin's. We can incorporate the content manager into the control panel as well as the billing stuff and set up stuff. Seriously, just have a product, that does it all, and does it RIGHT and is portable and not so error prone. No offense to anyone that likes it, but it can be improved upon in it's design and code in countless ways.. and people are just paying way, way, way too much money for the current product. Time to move on, let's do something on a larger scale. It might be a few weeks or solid coding, but it's needed and the resulting profits will surely make up for the initial time spent and upgrades will only need to be rare to work with any changing OS's in the options.

Any backing for this project? Ideas, suggestions, coding assistance, financial assistance, donations, partnerships in the aforementioned aspects, pocket lint, little soap bars and towels from nice hotels, anything? I've got the coding, ideas, design, etc. covered, but without other backing, it's not going to be possible to get it done anytime soon with my work schedule.. but it will be done! So, coding assistance would be nice, but only with truly qualified and highly experiences persons. No help is needed with the layout and design aspect at all. I know what it needs and how to do it, but suggestions and ideas are helpful, in case I've neglected to write down something. Money is always good and a letter of intent and DNA signing will be required, if I have anyone interested in investing, partnering up, sponsoring or assisting with development. Any interested parties, send me an email and we'll discuss it. I will be pressed for time over the next couple of weeks, but I can manage to get a slowdown after that, I hope.

Also, this will include other packages, custom coded, not just grabbing GNU/GPL or free scripts from site's, but suited best for what people want. Be it a CGI counter or chat room, or whatever. I have already coded some very complex and popular programs of that nature already anyway. Perhaps a shopping cart as well and other e-commerce type things. Also, and lastly of what I can think of this very moment, is that it will install things, and secure the systems to the best of it's ability, suggest changes, etc. for the servers, as it installs.

Easy there, Tim. Let's do it one step at a time. If it means modifying eGrail to suit our purposes let's start off there and build on it one step at a time.

I'm not sure about contributing money but I'd be willing to contribute anything else... Though I'm not the best coder of PHP or Perl in the world (far from be it, I'm absolutely crap!)....

BC, ever tried typo3?

Originally posted by Wazeh
BC, ever tried typo3?

Yes, and I had two problems :

1. ImageMagick (again)
2. TypoScript - I'm afraid I simply don't have the time to learn it and try and create my templates....

I guess I can try again now that I'm fiddling with a new Catalog box but.... *grumble* We'll see.

At the moment I've sorta reduced my scope down for a CMS..

zope? :D

Nope, doesn't suit my needs...

BC, if it's the libxml2 and libqte that are causing problems with ezPublish, there is this site which has RPMs already compiled for RH6 and RH7. You can check this out
http://phprpm.brandish.co.uk/ this page has a table detailing which rpms you will need. However don't follow their links to download the rpms as all their links are broken! instead, once you got the names of the rpms you can get them from here http://rpms.arvin.dk/php/install-ready/i686/

Don't install from RPM's if you can help it. Compiling from source will give you more control and the ability to customize or at least SEE what's going on, where it's failing and what it's doing. That might solve the problem with installing such things.

Just downloaded E-Grail... 1778 files! I wonder just how hard this will be to install... Wazeh? Was it you with a running copy? Is there much monkeying around?

Greg Moore

E-mail Wazeh for the username and password to the demo, Greg.

As for the RPMs, I'm sick of it :D Nah, I just don't have the time now, and I've settled on a pretty nice 'news manager' where I just add articles within my template. Add a few PHP scripts here and there and I should be set.... Not my optimal solution but better than nothing.

BC,

Thanks. Actually I had a play with his demo a while ago. I'll have to ask just how he managed to pull it off *lol* Seems it's not going to just slip right in there happily.

Greg Moore

Can someone define this:

J2EE Compliant Application Server

That sounds like some pretty serious software... Can someone give me an example of what one of those would actually be? Cite a brand etc... That appears to be my only possible stmbling block for getting that thing running

Greg Moore

J2EE stands for

Java 2 Enterprise Edition

(from Sun Microsystems).

This basically applies to all standard web servers ;)

BC,

Oh ok thanks. But is the 'Application Server' a part of standard Apache/Redhat? Or would I need to install something like Galileo or JBoss (http://www.jboss.org/) in there somewhere as well. I'm guessing the AS is for the more dynamic areas of the e-Grail program which would certainly make it more attractive to use..

Greg Moore

Greg, it will take some time to install Egrail :) It's not very friendly. I think they did this by design as they probably wanted to get their name out then move into fully commercial software. Right now their open source version has been abandoned and they are closing the open source web site :( But the good news is that the latest version is still free for the grabs and still available to be modified at will.

Once you untar it cd into Startup and run ./chk_install.pl
this little script will tell you which Perl modules you are missing on your server. Once that installation is done things should go smoothly.

If you need further help let me know :)

I have gotten typo3 to work finally. It's a very good system from what I have seen so far and very friendly. The only bad thing about it is that you may need to learn TypoScript to take full advantage of the software. Not sure how hard that is yet...

Wazeh,

Thanks. I have a PHP guru, and a server god on hand for infor, plus you if I get stuck :) Once I figure out a general set of rules for an install I'l be a happy boy.. The only concern is the App server right now. All other modules are already on the server. :)

I'll let you know how it goes.

Greg Moore

does anybody know a cheap host that can be setup for EZpublish or TYPO3?


Originally posted by gandmasti.com
Any comments on http://publish.ez.no and phpnuke as content management contenders? I kinda like what I've seen with the ezPublish interface.

Shri

Two news items that maybe of interest to akashik and BC and others who have considered Egrail:

1) egrail has dropped its support for the open source edition. However, the free Source (egrail 2.5) is still available as an open source project.
2) documentation for egrail is now available (although IMHO is not very helpful) at http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/egrail-source/egrail2.pdf

I also found this content management package called Ariadne
http://www.muze.nl/software/ariadne/ it is
- all in PHP
- Uses MySQL
- open source
- Object oriented (similar to Zope)
You can think of it as Zope in PHP. Haven't had time to play with it enough, but I like the potential of what I saw so far.

I hope this will help somebody.

Interesting, though I have settled on a solution which does what I want... Just a bit more coding than I wanted but it'll do me for now... Thanks anyway.

What solution did you go with BC?

Well, since my site is essentially articles/notes/etc. I've gone with a news content manager - from Plebian.com (http://plebian.com/g/software/wsnm). It's very cool, multiple sub-categories, etc.

And what I plan to do is use other scripts (e.g. polling, counters, search-engine friendly URLs etc.) and link to all of them from a central 'admin' page which I'll code myself..... I guess custom solutions are usually the best.

BC: How hard was it to install?

The Plebian news manager was an absolute breeze to install.

Now I just need to finish off my templates and graphics and it should be rolling darn soon.

Heya BC,
I read on the redhat site that 7.1 has the latest versions of stdlibc++ and possibly QT. Hope that will satisfy the dependancy problems we encounter with eZpublish installation.

Did someone try ezPublish on RH 7.1? From what it appears, it seems it will work. I am on a dial-up half the world away, and cannot d/l RH 7.1, I gotta wait until some magazine distributes on a CD.

Meanwhile, can BC or Wazeh or someone else with RH 7.1 try installing ezPublish? This will save a lot of work and rockl our websites.

Wish some VDI based host offers ezPublish on RH 7.1 on their virtual hosting plans, that is, after VDI gets back in shape. I'll be glad to get an account for a college community website if some reliable and affordable host does this. *wishful thinking*, eh? Any takers?

Somebody having success with ezpublish on RH 7.1 please reply. I'm waiting for some magazine here to distribute it. Until then, :(

C ya,
Wing.

Hey Wing,

Thanks for the info. When I get some spare time I'll load up RH7.1 on my spare box and see how we go.

Originally posted by BC
Hey Wing,

Thanks for the info. When I get some spare time I'll load up RH7.1 on my spare box and see how we go.

BC,
When you install RH 7.1, make sure you select all the dependant packages - imagemagick, magic quotes, qt, qtdom, gc++, stdlibc++ in addition to php and mysql.

Would be helpful if you install "everything" so that we can take care of most of the dependancy problems.

ezPublish will sure rock our sites, and I havent seen anything that comes close to it, both in rocking the site and in being a pain in the most painful places during installation.

Wing.

Wing, I will give it a try. It almost works. It's just a matter of recompiling PHP and it should work fine.

Wazeh,
That PHP problem with compilation on RH 6.2 could be because of this-

QT requires the latest version of stblibc++ but PHP looks for the older version to compile. I upgraded stdlibc++ to the latest version from the RPM for installing the latest QT.

I think I'll just install the latest stdlibc++ without upgrading or replacing packages or files and see if it works. But my other PC that has linux has started developing this strange problem for the past 3 or 4 days.

It keeps running windows 98 and suddenly it turns off - with what sounds like a hard disk click - even when it's idle - dunno if it's the cause or the effect. It's prolly not a heating problem as I have the cabinet open with good ventilation and still it persists.

It wont turn on until I turn off the UPS for atleast 10 minutes. Even if I turn off and on the UPS immediately, the computer would not power up. I just dunno what it is. Could this be a SMPS problem? Can anyone tell me how to detect SMPS problems? I have a multimeter but dunno what to check.

Anyone knows where the problem could be?

It's a P-III 450 on an Intel SR 440 BX2 motherboard, 64 MB RAM, seagate 10 GB IDE.

Thanks,
Wing.

I too have been looking for a really good CMS, and have downloaded and installed ot tried to install all of the CMS' available for download from hotscripts.com, and none have lived up to what I was looking for.

I'm just beginning to learn PHP and MySQL and have decided that i'm going to build my own one.

Probably take me a while to do, but after reading this thread it's helped me decide what features I need and which ones I don't.

Really useful thread :)

Welcome aboard Keith - great to have you here.

Yeah, I just gave up and created my own custom CMS... And I'll be discussing this in a new SP article soon because there has been a lot of recent discussion about these.

Welcoms aboard Keith, it's nice to have ya here.
Keith, did ya try eZpublish (http://developer.ez.no)? If so, please tell us how you made it work. It has most of the features I need.

BC,
Did ya checkout the new eZpublish 2.1? It doesn't require magic quotes anymore.

It also has webmail (though not much documentation about this), and also the config for this is not there on the admin interface. It can be tried out from the "Intranet" on the "Alternative site designs". But you need to have your own POP account, though we can easily reconfigure it. One drawback is they send using their own SMTP server with any email address you type into the "From" address. Unsafe. Also, if I click "Inbox", I can read my mail, but if I click "Check mail", it gives a fatal error error message.

They have also added mailing lists, with provision for multiple mailing lists.

They also claim that they have improved the speed and fixed few bugs.

And most importantly, they have released the specifications for developing our own modules. That is a very welcome step, prolly they got alarmed by the popularity of phpnuke.

So, this will be a very complete system if we could only integrate a full fledged bulletin board - the present one is not very usable. And if someone could develop a chat system with an applet front end - with http tunnelling. I dont like the non-applet chats.

I'll get RH 7.1 first and try my luck at it. If anyone could get me some feedback on this in the meantime, it will be very helpful.

The webmail and the forums have a huge scope for improvement. But otherwise it is a great package, if you could get it to work.

Thanks,
Wing.

.. If you have the time/effort to try and make it work :stickout

whewwwwww! It was quite an effort! After plenty of new white hairs, and a few gallons of coffee, I got it to compile!

Here's what I found that might have been the problem of people who failed in installign QT:
1) make sure you compile the source! Don't use RPMS (Tim Greer was right about this).
2) set the environment variable QTDIR to point to the directory where qt source tree is located. For example, if you put qt in /usr/qt-2.3.0 then set QTDIR to /usr/qt-2.3.0 this is a very important step.

I doubt it has to do with the libstdc++ version. Mine is libstdc++.so.2.8.0.

If anyone needs help installing this, drop me an email. If you like to test drive ezPublish to see if you like it, also drop me an email. Although seeing it running at ez.no didn't impress me much, looking at its code does! there is rgeat potential for integrating other software easily. Maybe will do that next.

Wazeh,
Thanks for the info. Actually I was thinking this should be the problem as I read a similar post on the ez.no discussion forums, but I dint care to try it out.

I think, if we compile QT from source, we would have set the path already. If we install from RPM, we will have to set the path.

Also, please send me the log-in details for your demo. Is it version 2.0 or 2.1?

My email id is thewingthing at hotmail dot com.

Thanks,
Wing.

This is what I read there:

> > To do this do:
> >
> > QTDIR=/path/to/qt (for me this >was /usr/lib/qt2)
> > export QTDIR
>
> Do this where? Shell, .profile? I added this to
> .bash_profile, and logged on again. Still get same error on
> compile. Qt was installed from RH7 cd.
>

If you have RH7 I'd get the updated gcc, glibc, libstdc++, etc, etc from ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/updates/7.0/i386 or a mirror.

Then check your config.log. The last line should tell you what the real problem is. It may not be qt (though I guess it is).

If none of this works it might be an idea to get the latest version of QT from trolltech ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/source/qt-x11-2.2.4.tar.gz. It's a pretty easy install (well it is on RH6.2) but takes some time compile. Then point the QTDIR to the new version.

> Do this where? Shell, .profile? I added this to
> .bash_profile, and logged on again. Still get same error on
> compile. Qt was installed from RH7 cd.
>

Should be able to set the variables in either. This is straight out of the qt install page at:

ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/source/INSTALL


Set some environment variables in the file .profile (or .login,
depending on your shell) in your home directory. (Create the
file if it is not there already.)

QTDIR - wherever you installed Qt
PATH - to locate the moc program and other Qt tools
MANPATH - to access the Qt man pages
LD_LIBRARY_PATH - for the shared Qt library

This is done like this:

In .profile (if your shell is bash, ksh, zsh or sh), add the
following lines:

QTDIR=/usr/local/qt
PATH=$QTDIR/bin:$PATH
MANPATH=$QTDIR/doc/man:$MANPATH
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$QTDIR/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH

export QTDIR PATH MANPATH LD_LIBRARY_PATH

In .login (in case your shell is csh or tcsh), add the following lines:

setenv QTDIR /usr/local/qt
setenv PATH $QTDIR/bin:$PATH
setenv MANPATH $QTDIR/doc/man:$MANPATH
setenv LD_LIBRARY_PATH $QTDIR/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH

After you have done this, you will need to login again, or
re-source the profile before continuing, so that at least $QTDIR
is set. The installation will give an error message and not
proceed otherwise.