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Kaumil
08-08-2002, 04:00 PM
Guys/Gals,

I'm unveiling a new plan. 250mb space, 25gig transfer, 250 Pop3 Emails, and the rest of the features like front page extensions, ftp, webmail, php, mysql, etc etc, .... for $7.50

Do you think this package will sell?

Axel Teflon
08-08-2002, 04:25 PM
Post it in the Shared Webhosting Special Offers and fine out. :)

25 GB Transfer for 250 MB Storage.. sounds 'off' :eek:

Kaumil
08-08-2002, 04:31 PM
What do you mean it sounds off?

RackNine
08-08-2002, 04:50 PM
Axel,

Nothing wrong with that. Would work well for popular news sites, etc.. We'd also toyed with the idea of offering less webspace to users and increasing bandwidth since the possibility of using all your bandwidth with less webspace is much lower. Obviously this doesn't work for everyone, RackNine didn't do this in the end becase of all the forums and database-intensive sites we run would burn through 250mb.

Sincerely,

-Matt

Kaumil
08-08-2002, 05:11 PM
We're pretty much focusing on the Toronto market more. That is where we are doing majority of our marketing. Anything other than that.. is on the web advertising for US clients. I doubt they will be big users. Our minimum package should be enough for them. Our next package is $20 a month, with 350mb space, 35gig's.

Jedito
08-08-2002, 06:52 PM
Would you make money with that package??

dynamitehost
08-08-2002, 06:59 PM
Well hostingplex, looks like you may be on the same road as iPowerWeb. Although theyre plans are attractive, they spam and have gotten themselves a bad name in my book anyway.

They may have a big customer base, but theyre bad name will pull them down eventually as more and more people realise.

I've also heard bad things about their support. They offer accounts with way too much bandwidth for the cost, and I personally know of 4 people who have been booted off of their servers for using up most of their allowance.

Just don't spam and make sure you can actually offer users these plans and you might do well.

poncho2000
08-08-2002, 07:00 PM
hostingplex,

Some facts:

According to your web site:

With our proven customer service and support, we continue to be the home for more than 5,000 of Toronto's small to mid-sized businesses.

hostingplex.com - First Registered: March 17, 2002

You are growing very fast or you are lying :stickout.

I'm unveiling a new plan. 250mb space, 25gig transfer, 250 Pop3 Emails, and the rest of the features like front page extensions, ftp, webmail, php, mysql, etc etc, .... for $7.50

Honestly it sounds funny to me :D. I can't see where your profit is.
25G for $7.50 it's huuuuuuge overselling.

Some more facts:

hostingplex.com (216.147.113.209)

216.147.0.0 - 216.147.127.255
Alabanza, Inc.
10 E. Baltimore St. Suite 1300
Baltimore, MD 21244
US

Your are with Alabanza, but even if you have one of these $100/400G/mo servers you can't make profit with these prices.

Just my 2 cents,
Peter

Jeremy W.
08-08-2002, 07:10 PM
Toronto Market... I'm an IT guy, business owner, developer and active Toronto citizen and have never heard of this company. Have you started your ad campaign yet?

freakysid
08-08-2002, 08:03 PM
Using my pricing model $7.50 per month would work out to 2GB of data transfer. But different ppl have different models.

Kaumil
08-08-2002, 08:45 PM
Hey guys, Thanks for all the responses.. no, we actually do have 5,000 clients. They are very very small clients. Most of them being real estate agents and small companies in the GTA area.

We are moving out of Alabanza.

Jeremy, We haven't launched any serious advertising schemes. We just do popup advertising on the web, on certain sites. We also call many companies, and many companies are from friend referrals, etc. We are only starting out, but we had a good contact base. We are planning to get into TorontoComputes, but they don't have any webmaster, web design related issues coming out, so we might not. We are also looking to spread the word via flyers to many businesses and residential areas via Post Canada. We have a lot of marketing money coming in from other projects, so we are able to market all these ways. Bench advertising at the TTC stops is an option we are looking at also.

We hope to be one of the big boys. We're buying advertising on many of the web hosting related sites on the net. We are going to have our own control panel, made in-house.

poncho2000
08-08-2002, 09:09 PM
Hey guys, Thanks for all the responses.. no, we actually do have 5,000 clients. They are very very small clients. Most of them being real estate agents and small companies in the GTA area.

I doubt that you have even 50 clients. I live in Toronto and know the IT/hosting market here very well. You said that you haven't advertised seriously yet, then please share with us your secret how did you get 5000 clients in 5 months?

Take care,
Peter

Kaumil
08-08-2002, 09:22 PM
I pretty much told you. Real Estate Agents, + Small businesses were contacted directly, we go in. Most come to us via word of mouth and referrals. We also did a lot of popup advertising and search engine advertising on the Internet. Nothing fancy about it.

Jeremy W.
08-08-2002, 11:01 PM
Erm... There are 125 listed real estate agents in the GTA. Not to be too pissy here, but it really sounds like you are over-inflating where you're at.

5K clients would put you as a million-dollar host. I really have never heard of you, and I consider my net to be relatively good in the Toronto area.

WebSun
08-08-2002, 11:46 PM
Originally posted by poncho2000


I doubt that you have even 50 clients. I live in Toronto and know the IT/hosting market here very well. You said that you haven't advertised seriously yet, then please share with us your secret how did you get 5000 clients in 5 months?

Take care,
Peter

That's 40 signup per day since day one :D

Can you share with us your amazing marketing skills...

:cool:

m00ds
08-09-2002, 01:41 AM
25GB transfer for a $7.50 package...sounds a bit 'off' to me :confused:

you do that and your educated customers will see straight away that you're doing max overselling of bandwidth.

JSpired
08-09-2002, 05:55 AM
It sounds "too good to be true" for me, as well. If you have 5,000 clients and are growing so rapidly by word of mouth, why the need for a big sales plug? You're obviously doing something very well. Why not just keep at?

freakysid
08-09-2002, 09:37 AM
Originally posted by Jeremy W.
I really have never heard of you, and I consider my net to be relatively good in the Toronto area.

Hey bozo! You saying this is your teritory? So the guy has stiched up the real estate shops? Why don't you go chase the hamberger joints or concrete businesses? My cousin is into concrete if you need any contacts. I hear they are looking for a bit of inventive new economy book-keeping. The ledger took a bit of a dive with the dot-bomb thing and we need someone to straighten out the books - look after business as it were. Why don't you fellas join forces and just get along? Together you could run that town.

:pimp: :pimp: :pimp:

Kaumil
08-09-2002, 03:38 PM
All I asked was if those plans would help us get more clients. All I got was a bunch of replies that were powered by jealously? disbelief?

Thanks for the support freakysid.

JSpired
08-09-2002, 03:50 PM
hostingplex,
I wasn't questioning you out of jealousy or disbelief; just curious, I suppose. I apologize if it came out that way. 5,000 clients are a lot to manage and if I had that number of clients, I would be content with the fact that I was doing something right and my plans were popular as is.

Whatever you decide to do, good luck to you.

FDrive
08-09-2002, 04:28 PM
Originally posted by WiredDog
hostingplex,
I wasn't questioning you out of jealousy or disbelief; just curious, I suppose. I apologize if it came out that way. 5,000 clients are a lot to manage and if I had that number of clients, I would be content with the fact that I was doing something right and my plans were popular as is.

Whatever you decide to do, good luck to you.

Right on. If you have 5,000 clients, then obviously you're doing something right. I wouldn't change the hosting plans at all.

Kaumil
08-09-2002, 04:42 PM
Well, those plans are selling well locally, ... we tried selling to US market, and nothing happened. So, we have to bring it up a bit to see what happens. Maybe offer 10gb as our lowest package, and move our way up, seeing what happens.

We plan to build a datacenter here in Toronto. We have a big company backing us up on this project.

Thanks guys.

Jeremy W.
08-09-2002, 04:46 PM
Kaumil,

It wasn't meant as a personal attack, and I too apologise if it came across that way. It just seemed much like a newbie puffing themselves up. I'm not saying you don't have 5,000 clients but it would definitely be a "wow" thing if you did.

If you build that DataCenter and do CoLo's, let me know, we'll probably have a dozen servers (maybe more) to put in, and can probably push another 100 servers from other sources to you if your prices are better than AT&T's :)

Kaumil
08-09-2002, 05:02 PM
We'll let you know. We want to figure out how much it's going to cost, etc, etc.. but it will be one of the best ;)

WebSun
08-09-2002, 06:59 PM
We are accepting orders via cheque only at the moment. Please e-mail sales@hostingplex.com to get an order processed.
Nice way to manage 5.000 payment from customers...:confused:

Also from your PayPal account you reveiced only 41 payments:

Pay To:
Kaumil Tech, Inc (kaumil@freewareworld.com)
User Status:
International Verified Business Member (41)

If you have 5.000 customers, and you make +/- $100k in sale per month, why you can't afford a merchant account?

2 checkout - Kaumil Tech, Inc. (www.blazehits.com)


And Kaumil be sure that there is no jealousy in any way but definetly if you try to look what you are not try be more smarter...
:emlaugh:

Kaumil
08-09-2002, 07:29 PM
1. I told you from the start that we do small business orders and real estate orders.
2. We don't use Paypal to process orders. We were planning to.
3. We are in process of working with Solutrus/Verisign and TD bank to get all this set up to work with our in-house web hosting automated system/control panel.

I give up, there are too many investigators on this board.

dynamitehost
08-10-2002, 06:47 PM
Originally posted by hostingplex
I give up, there are too many investigators on this board. [/B]

heh.

nachopo
08-16-2002, 09:33 PM
Originally posted by hostingplex

We are moving out of Alabanza.



Why ?
regards

Kaumil
09-28-2002, 12:27 AM
We are locating ourselves into a better datacenter and doing things ourselves. We have our top of the line IBM EServers lined up and ready to go for the big blast.

Jeremy W.
09-28-2002, 12:32 AM
Let me know when your datacenter is taking CoLo's. We now have 6 servers, and I sure wouldn't mind just purchasing 6 sweet PowerEdge 1650's :)

braysurdi
09-28-2002, 12:47 AM
Totall off the topic, but I just bought 3 Dell 1650's and should have them next week :D

How do you like yours so far Jeremy?