Hi we are from the Netherlands
We are looking for a way to except creditcards online
but we also send out bills so we don´t use it a lot
are there any cheap options?

is paypal something to use?

thanks

I would not use PayPal unless it was my only option.


http://www.2checkout.com/
2CheckOut offers our customers the ability to easily and securely accept credit card payments from their customers in real time over the Internet. You don't need to spend the time and money to set up your own secure server and transaction software. You can sell goods, services, e-products and memberships, just about
anything online!


http://ccbill.com/
Highly structured billing with the most advanced security is vital to the success of your web site. With the latest technology, CCBill creates a user-friendly interface for your customers to enjoy fast, real-time billing of credit cards and online checks through the wholesaler account program. This technology reduces the number of potential chargebacks and refunds, enabling your web site to become more profitable and successful.


http://www.hostcharge.com/
HostCharge is one of those few solutions which dont require you to have your own merchant account. We do all the merchant work and provide you with a sophisticated merchant control center (MCC) which has the features of a full-blown merchant
account. We have created a very versatile solution combined with affordability so that any type of web host, big or small can use our services



http://www.websitebilling.com/services.html
Are you selling your services online and accepting payments via the web? If you're not, no doubt your competition is. WebsiteBilling exists to make transacting
online - accepting credit cards, checks and other forms of payments - easy for merchants who sell online



http://www.planetpayment.com/
Through Planet Payment, any eligible Internet merchant can accept Visa®, MasterCard®, American Express®*, JCB® and certain other major credit and debit cards through your website in over 140 currencies.



http://www.propay.com/
ProPay is a payment services company that uses the power of the Internet to help people make efficient financial transactions. ProPay enables people to accept credit cards and other forms of payment as traditional merchants do.




http://www.intellipay.com/
There are IntelliPay products and services to suit most ecommerce merchants and their online store systems. If you don't find what you need to know, please contact your sales representative.



http://www.revecom.com/services/tppsale/index.htm
Offers a variety processing tools, including recurring billing, as well as reporting, fraud screening, customer management, and secure payment pages. And to make things even simpler, there is nothing to install, lease or download.

thanks :) that are a lot of links

Thanks Sitekeeper - your post is a keeper :)

I have never used these, only saw them yesterday:

www.PaySystems.com

what about www.worldpay.com?

Yes, even i was wondering about worldpay.com, i hear worldpay is most flexible as 2checkout would not let you change your package prices? Is this true?

Also, pls tell me from your experiences which cc processor a web host must use, of course keeping into mind disocunt rates, security, flexibility and reluability.

Also, what i gather from paypal is they are the cheapest and i can see their discount rates are the cheapest amogst all listed above.

Pls let me know as to why one should not prefer paypal over the more commercial looking cc providers.

as for us we cant use paypal in our country, but worldpay can be integrated and customized in many ways, and everything runs at their servers good security, many AVS that helps to avoid fraud

I wish somebody had posted that list of links a few months back, it would have saved me a lot of time...

I would go with Hostcharge if I were you as they are one of the few processors that don't charge you a small fortune to setup, remain fairly anonymous and allow you to charge in Euros. If the exchange rate with the dollar is good you can actually make a profit from the transaction :D
However, if you want to charge very small amounts by credit card, the only feasible one on the list would be PayPal at the moment, or possibly iBill.

whats ur location bashar? i reckon paypal pays out in all countries, although it would not be a wire trasfer but they can send you a check.

Originally posted by hostchamp
whats ur location bashar? i reckon paypal pays out in all countries, although it would not be a wire trasfer but they can send you a check.
They don't unfortunately :mad:

For netherlands there is a company there:


http://multicards.com

I have heared that their service is good but a little expensive.

Mac

we are located in Kuwait, they dont support kuwait yet

Hi,

A list of countries PayPal can be used in is on the web site...

http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=p/gen/approved_countries-outside

You can see that it will show which countries can do payments. withdrawals,etc.

Originally posted by paypaldamon
Hi,

A list of countries PayPal can be used in is on the web site...

http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=p/gen/approved_countries-outside

You can see that it will show which countries can do payments. withdrawals,etc.
Have you added support for Irish customers to withdraw money to an Irish bank account yet?

Hi blacknight,

No, not yet. We are looking into expanding bank account withdrawals to as many countries as we can, but I do have to add that it takes a lot of work.

Originally posted by paypaldamon
Hi,

A list of countries PayPal can be used in is on the web site...

http://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=p/gen/approved_countries-outside

You can see that it will show which countries can do payments. withdrawals,etc.


any idea when Middle east, Kuwait to specific will be supported?

Give Revecom a try.

http://www.rececom.com

They even have a demo for you to try out.

http://www.revecom.com/services/tppsale/demo.htm

I've used them for a few months now and their service is good.
Easy to setup and very affordable.

Dennis

Is the funds availability in your country an issue behind all people who suggest not to go with paypal or are there any other iussues as well?

Paypaldamon, your list includes India, does it mean that you will wire money to any indian bank a/c or any particular bank? Os is just a check?

Though India is listed in PayPal's list of countries, it isn't actually supported - unless something has changed recently.

You are unable to add an Indian bank to your account, making it useless.

What about ibill.com ?

Hi dsj,

You are correct. PayPal users in India can't withdraw to a local (India) bank account. However, they could have an account to draw to a US bank.

ibill.com is very expensive

Originally posted by Bashar
ibill.com is very expensive That's why you should try Revecom. I think they even have an office in India or did at one time. I just asked them on their online chat and they support clients in India.

Dennis

does revecom has something against fraud protection for their clients?

Yes,

Check out the site.

http://www.revecom.com

Dennis

Originally posted by paypaldamon
Hi dsj,

You are correct. PayPal users in India can't withdraw to a local (India) bank account. However, they could have an account to draw to a US bank.
It's the same for Irish users. How can I get an acccount in the US as a non-resident? Is it possible?

Dennis, revecom looks very good, we might think of switching after talking to their sales and see some demos. Thanks :)

Well, I hope it works out for you. I just got another check from them today which I will be depositing in my bank account tomorrow.

Dennis

I second balcknight's post; How can I get an acccount in the US as a non-resident? Is it possible?

2checkout says they will soon be offering U.S. bank accounts to their clients at a very reasonable price, something like $20 or something. I forget the exact details, but you can find it on their forums.

I'm not sure if you could then use that account for other things (like a paypal account, merchant account, etc.). You could write them to find out.

thanks dsj, i shall write to 2co.

International users can check out a list of US banks at www.fdic.gov (I can't make recommendations).