Hello Every body

i am just have some confusing about web hosting storage plans this days

From 2-3 Years ago the plans were 50MB 100MB 250MB 500MB

From 1-2 Years ago the plans were 500MB 1G 3G 5G

NOW :eek: :eek: :eek:

the Plans come from 10G to 300G

just wondering and asking how is that sudden GROWTH and is that client still happy with that space and need it ??

thanks for every one reply this POST

Search the term "Overselling" and you should find your answer.

but what if only 10-20% from the client use 70% from the space the server will be not stable at all overselling must be with a logic present not 20 times the allowable space

that's how it goes...you must find reliable host not only looking for big sizes

But Really it is not fair we must do some thing from now because it will be a very big problem in that near future

I think the problem is already here:) But like I already said, you have to learn choosing beetwen good and bad:)

Thats the result of better technology, but more importantly, a new level of overselling amongst hosts (particularly the larger ones).

what do you mean by thats the result of better technology ? you mean that you are happy with that RISK?

Better technology as in bigger hard drives, bigger network connections. With this increase, overselling has unfortunately increased exponentially amongst some hosts.

If the risk you're talking about is overselling, no, I'm not happy, I firmly believe against overselling because it's lying IMO.

Ya I think that's been overdone. $6.95 for like 250 GB space and 3000 GB bandwidth is pretty much giving away a dedicated server for that price.

I'm just not going to even try going down that road. I believe in quality, not quantity ;)

Really i am thinking about make an educational campaign against that OVERSELLING

what do you think about that

Really i am thinking about make an educational campaign against that OVERSELLING

what do you think about that

Nothing new there bro,

The clients get educated by buying from Oversellers (inexpirenced ones). And dicovering they bite. It takes a bit longer for them to discover the same thing using the really big host.

And new clients are:
"Blinded" by the specs oversellers give. So they end up going to them anyway.

Overselling is a market stratagy that at times "Just Goes Bad"

You all realize that your ISP connection is oversold right (DSL actually being worse than cable...)? Most datacenters sell oversold bandwidth if you take into account all the racks and all the servers/hosts connected at 100Mbps and 1Gbps. You realize that it's not very profitable to have a perfect 1:1 ratio on servers and plans right?

A 3:1 or even 5:1 oversubscription ratio is not a bad thing. There is a difference between overselling and gross mismanagement and I'm hoping that's what you all are referring to. There are users that will NEVER use all the allotted space. Then again, as a server admin, it is your responsibility to make sure your services offered are meeting expectations. I agree that the plans offering 100s of gigs of hard drive and 1000s of gigs of IP transport are gross oversellers and are asking for trouble but at the same time, if I have 500GB of space on my server and a 2500GB IP transport plan and I and I offer 25-30 plans of 50GB of space and 250GB IP transport, that's not a bad thing. It's only bad if all my customers use that space and I do nothing to adjust based on business conditions.

That's the difference between a good host and a bad host. Do not confuse oversubscription with mismanagement. The two are mutually exclusive of one another.

Hello Every body

i am just have some confusing about web hosting storage plans this days

From 2-3 Years ago the plans were 50MB 100MB 250MB 500MB

From 1-2 Years ago the plans were 500MB 1G 3G 5G

NOW :eek: :eek: :eek:

the Plans come from 10G to 300G

just wondering and asking how is that sudden GROWTH and is that client still happy with that space and need it ??

thanks for every one reply this POST

Thats actually a very good question.... I think it has mainly to do with people wanting to see "Value" ? -- maybe its end of life for shared hosting? -- Its hard to say. However, it will be scary to see when one day the shared hosting plans will be like 1 - 2 TB (1,000GB +/-)

Really i want to collect all the hosts that against OVERSELLING at one place to show people at the end who was the right overselling or against overselling

Really i want to collect all the hosts that against OVERSELLING at one place to show people at the end who was the right overselling or against overselling

Might be a good... might not be so good. Just gotta remember overselling is a fact of life. For example, if you have 1 host that has 500GB means realistically it would be a max of 2 customers per server...

I mean as long as overselling is done "with reason" you can oversell without selling yourself short. However, these 999GB for $2 deals wont work normally.

Same for DSL, Cable etc... all over sold I would bet.

Might be a good... might not be so good. Just gotta remember overselling is a fact of life. For example, if you have 1 host that has 500GB means realistically it would be a max of 2 customers per server...

I mean as long as overselling is done "with reason" you can oversell without selling yourself short. However, these 999GB for $2 deals wont work normally.

Same for DSL, Cable etc... all over sold I would bet.


So we must give OVERSELLING A GIFT That it survive us from disappearing from the market


i am sorry my and lot of people here against that crazy OverSelling

is that possible that half of the server sold per month with 6.95 or 9.95$ per month

again and again how it come ?

So we must give OVERSELLING A GIFT That it survive us from disappearing from the market


i am sorry my and lot of people here against that crazy OverSelling

is that possible that half of the server sold per month with 6.95 or 9.95$ per month

again and again how it come ?

I mean if you want the truth (which will set you free) is basically that every host out there that isn't charging almost (over 100GB disk space) $20+/mo is overselling.

In all fairness on all the hosts... the question really comes down to the end users... do you want to pay $20 - 30 for a web hosting account? If so, then problem solved... if not.... then... you know what you have to live with.

Again, oversubscribing (different than overselling but many people don't differentiate) is the norm. It's true for your internet connection, it's a fact of life for data centers, it's something to contend with on campus networks, it's a tricky tightrope to walk on a server.

Not all $6.95 hosting accounts are grossly oversubscribed. If they are offering hundreds of gigs of disk space and thousands of gigs of IP transport, then yes, it's a problem. But if someone is selling 2x-5x of what their server can acutally handle, that's actually fairly the norm. Your server may only be able to handle 50 of whatever plan you offer (using a 1:1 model) but you end up selling 150 slots. As long as you are responsible and when your resource usage gets in the 50-60% range you alleviate the bottleneck by adding another server and migrating users as appropriate, there's nothing wrong with that business model. It's very cost/resource effective and is smart business. Fact is, if you only sold 50 plans on a 50 slot server, you would be left with a lot of unused resources and thus you're not realizing your full profit potential.

Then you have those people that do the above but don't expand at 50-60% or don't monitor usage at all. That is bad service. But overselling isn't bad in and of itself. It's up to the end user to see if the offering is realistic versus what we can safely assume the host is leading their solution with.