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View Full Version : Abledating / ABK-Soft are <<<>>> scammers
taneboy 11-19-2007, 10:34 PM Hi, again to let people know that Abledating /ABK-Soft are Russian scammers and do not trust these scum or believe anyone newbies here that say it is a good script and belittle other scripts.
Dmitry Rudakov is again posing as other people such as Ken Right.
WHT should be a good honest forum, not filled with scumbags like ABK-Soft
dawei 11-22-2007, 08:38 PM Personally, I don't believe that a company's nationality should have any bearing on their reputation. If you think they are scammers you would want to post material to back up your claim, but racist remarks such as the above are of poor taste and I would be surprised if it wasn't against the forum rules here.
taneboy 11-22-2007, 10:54 PM I should rephrase this then. Abledating is run by scammers who happen to live in Russia and be Russian.
What is racist about that??? Warning other people to be wary and not get sucked in like we did.
If you want proof, then do some searching yourself but dont lambast me for trying to make forum communities like this safer from scams.
You seem to live in a different world......
dawei 11-23-2007, 12:45 AM If you had such a bad experience, you should make a detailed post about it.
I'm all for educating the masses, but your post doesn't give me a lot to go from.
taneboy 11-30-2007, 09:11 PM Hi Polarman (Dmitry Rudakov aka ABK-Soft), welcome to WHT where real people discuss real problems in this forum.
Abledating are a bunch of scammers and I would keep well away from them. They get alot of clients by going to forums like this and posing as new people (polarman)who genuinely praise Abledating. It is good to see that you have taken my advice and improved your English Dmitry.
In a previous thread (under Abledating) 3 newbies (with bad English) all praised Abledating and Anon-e-mouse did a check and they were all the same person.
As stated before Dmitry, your time will come and we hope they will treat you nice in jail (feed you at least once a day).
Abledating are also resellers of Vistapages and if you read reviews about them, they do not have a good name either. A thread that was closed yesterday started by Kaceeusa (or something similiar) would also be from either Abledating or Vistapages, praising both companies.
Our personal experience is with Abledating whose software we brought 2 months ago and have not received. We also paid for multi-licences and a unique template, USD$ 997. We have received nothing and as Dmitry is Russian and living in Vladimir, Russia, he thinks he can get away from it. We have requested a Refund and Dmitry refuses.
The CC processing company they use is Avangate (a netherlands based outfit) and they are also Resellers of Abledating so will always side with Abledating.
We have had to contact our bank, request chargeback, contact various law enforcement such as Interpol to let them know all about Dmitry and his assocations and also try and warn people about these scam merchants in forums such as this.
If you search the internet, you will find reviews about them (softpedia) and again they use the same tactics, posing as people and praising their software (generally with bad grammar) and rubbishing all others.
You can easily see the real reviews.
I have not personally ever dealt with Vistapages but from what I have read in other reviews and with their close association with Abledating, I would not go near them with a bargepole.
Abledating is a scam and if you want to waste your money (and never get a refund) then go ahead but we would prefer that you gave it to charity, and not to Dmitry Rudakov's retirement fund
taneboy 11-30-2007, 09:16 PM Go to digitalpoint.com and search Abledating, alot of threads
taneboy 11-30-2007, 09:19 PM Again the good reviews have very few posts (usually English grammar mistakes) and the REAL reviews tell you like it is. Vistapages also get a mention (not a good one)
Kaumil 11-30-2007, 10:22 PM I have not personally ever dealt with Vistapages but from what I have read in other reviews and with their close association with Abledating, I would not go near them with a bargepole.
Other than them referring customers to us, we have no influence in their business morals, principles or policies.
We do our best to support the thousands of customers that we have, and that's all there is to it.
taneboy 11-30-2007, 10:30 PM So when you get a new customer from Abledating and pay their commission (as they state everywhere that you have got your server/ servers ready for their script) and the customer gets screwed by Abledating, you can then turnaround and say, their policies have nothing to do with us???
Wrong, you choose who you do business with and if your associations are with the wrong person/company, you change it.
You are happy to pay commissions to abledating, happy to accomodate their script, happy to give them good reviews (as you know the customer would then come to you on their recommendation)
and then turn around and say you have nothing to do with them???
Jay August 11-30-2007, 11:54 PM Abledating are also resellers of Vistapages and if you read reviews about them, they do not have a good name either. A thread that was closed yesterday started by Kaceeusa (or something similiar) would also be from either Abledating or Vistapages, praising both companies.
Can somebody verify this? I'd laugh my *** off! VistaPages has shown some pathetic behaviour in the past, this would top it off :o
taneboy 12-01-2007, 05:18 AM Hi amygdela,
This is one thread I read today (a mod has closed it) and sorry I couldn't find the thread number but was posted in the last couple of days.
'Web Hosting Forum : Vistapages Hosting is the Best [split from unrelated thread)'
KayceeUSA is obviously Vistapages or Abledating. The companies are very similiar.
Abledating is one man Dimitry Rudakov of Russia and not some big company.
Vistapages I can rightly guess is run by one man, Mr Patel of Canada and again pretending to be some big company.
They both trawl the forum sites on the internet, opening up different alias's and saying great things about their sites and rubbishing others.
In the above mentioned thread, KayceeUSA mentioned the other big webhosting company but does not name them and says great things about Vistapages and in a later comment, praises Abledating.
This is a bit more work than the usual newbie one posting praising Abledating (with bad English grammar) but with the same intention, to deceive the good people who are looking for good honest advice and reviews.
I have learnt alot on WHT as I am not a programmer etc and for people like me, it is important to read forums and learn from what people say. It is just a shame that there are alot of people corrupting forums and making them not as important as they should be.
The real losers are people like me and WHT, as when more of the same scammers keep turning up here, people like me will be turning off.....
Jay August 12-01-2007, 08:13 AM KayceeUSA is obviously Vistapages or Abledating. The companies are very similiar.
Abledating is one man Dimitry Rudakov of Russia and not some big company.
I've read that topic, but I don't want a re-run of what stated the topic, but a proof that KayceeUSA was a VP or AbleDating client. That'd be lower than low.
Kaumil 12-02-2007, 03:57 PM Hi amygdela,
This is one thread I read today (a mod has closed it) and sorry I couldn't find the thread number but was posted in the last couple of days.
'Web Hosting Forum : Vistapages Hosting is the Best [split from unrelated thread)'
KayceeUSA is obviously Vistapages or Abledating. The companies are very similiar.
Abledating is one man Dimitry Rudakov of Russia and not some big company.
Vistapages I can rightly guess is run by one man, Mr Patel of Canada and again pretending to be some big company.
In the above mentioned thread, KayceeUSA mentioned the other big webhosting company but does not name them and says great things about Vistapages and in a later comment, praises Abledating.
This is a bit more work than the usual newbie one posting praising Abledating (with bad English grammar) but with the same intention, to deceive the good people who are looking for good honest advice and reviews.
I'm sorry to tell you this, but you're a bit delusional. Vistapages is not a "one man" show. You're more than welcome to come to our office and see that for yourself. As for KayceeUSA being "Vistapages", wrong again. He/she is a customer of Vistapages.
I have learnt alot on WHT as I am not a programmer etc and for people like me, it is important to read forums and learn from what people say. It is just a shame that there are alot of people corrupting forums and making them not as important as they should be.
The real losers are people like me and WHT, as when more of the same scammers keep turning up here, people like me will be turning off.....
You've learnt nothing from WHT. ABK Soft is an affiliate of Vistapages, that "recommends" us. We do not have any say in their business practice, policy or procedures. Your issue is to be taken up with them, not to drag Vistapages into this, we have nothing to do with it.
While I understand that you're frustrated with your issue, Vistapages is not responsible. If you had signed up with Vistapages and you were not satisfied with OUR service, we would have refunded you.
I have not personally ever dealt with Vistapages but from what I have read in other reviews and with their close association with Abledating
We have hundreds of "affiliates". If you have an issue with them, deal with them directly. The business relationship is simply this "refer for comission". If you have an issue with Vistapages, we'll be more than happy to look into the issue and resolve it for you.
So when you get a new customer from Abledating and pay their commission (as they state everywhere that you have got your server/ servers ready for their script) and the customer gets screwed by Abledating, you can then turnaround and say, their policies have nothing to do with us???
Wrong, you choose who you do business with and if your associations are with the wrong person/company, you change it.
You are happy to pay commissions to abledating, happy to accomodate their script, happy to give them good reviews (as you know the customer would then come to you on their recommendation)
and then turn around and say you have nothing to do with them???
Exactly. We are not ABK. We have no say in your business transaction with another company. You are not our customer, which you have clearly stated that you weren't. Vistapages didn't "scam" you, nor would it have if you signed up for our web hosting service.
Best of luck in resolving your issue.
taneboy 12-06-2007, 01:29 AM Again, you are tied to them so as far as I am concerned, their practises reflect on you
Mandivas 02-14-2008, 11:18 AM AbleDating is a pretty good script. Support is a little slow but at least the script runs right and the company doesn't seem to be very shady
taneboy 02-14-2008, 03:01 PM AbleDating is a pretty good script. Support is a little slow but at least the script runs right and the company doesn't seem to be very shady
This is a fake review. Support is non-existent after you pay, no money refund when requested and the company is very shady. Check out the LABBB for an independent rating of this company. They get an F which is the worst you can have.
Beware of this company of Russian Scammers and all postings by this new fake member
Mandivas 02-23-2008, 11:36 AM This is a fake review. Support is non-existent after you pay, no money refund when requested and the company is very shady. Check out the LABBB for an independent rating of this company. They get an F which is the worst you can have.
Beware of this company of Russian Scammers and all postings by this new fake member
This is a fake review.Sales were very quick to respond and really bent over backwards to help me out. Technical support has been fantastic so far
taneboy 02-23-2008, 04:20 PM This is a fake review.Sales were very quick to respond and really bent over backwards to help me out. Technical support has been fantastic so far
I would disregard all posts by Mandivas. Just another fake review from Dmitry Rudakov, the Russian Spammer
Gnoul 03-01-2008, 01:27 PM why?This seems like a pretty good software.
Mandivas 03-13-2008, 11:58 AM For those who still reads fake reviews made by the competetors of this great company with titles like "abledating scam or abk-soft scam" i would recommend to visit abledatingreview.com and read real testimonials of real abk-soft clients
ginacarlo 03-21-2008, 10:22 AM Ok I just placed an order for abledating and I'll let everyone know if they're scammers or not.
parentstopnet 03-23-2008, 12:48 AM Hmm everyone that posted in support of this product has under 10 post make ya wonder a little? :)
Andrew.S 03-23-2008, 12:54 AM Report the post and ask the mods to verify the ip's and see if they are smiliar.
anon-e-mouse 03-23-2008, 01:42 AM Report the post and ask the mods to verify the ip's and see if they are smiliar.
There are a few shills here. Let me close this up so no more can post.
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