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View Full Version : Enom Reseller Query
Heartz 08-04-2002, 02:26 AM Hi,
Just have some queries regarding the Enom reseller package. Visited their website but the details were not very clear.
A few question that I have :-
1) How much does enom sell domain names to the reseller for ?
2) Does this come with the DNS, email forwarding etc services? If it doesn't , how much extra do they charge resellers?
Just want to find out.
Thanks.
:confused:
VoxKeysGtr 08-04-2002, 02:27 AM Do a search for enom resellers. You'll get better pricing that way. :)
hostjet 08-04-2002, 06:08 AM Best way to find out is to ask them.
Last time i recall it being around
50 domains $8.95 ea
500 domains $7.95 ea
1000+ domains $6.95ea
plus if you use a credit card to pay, they charge an additional 3%
I would suggest emailing them to make sure.
tdotn 08-04-2002, 12:03 PM From their official partner programs docs.
Partner Program Domain Pricing
3 Packages:
Basic Package - $8.95 per name for all new registrations, transfers, and renewals.
(.COM, .NET, .ORG, .INFO, .BIZ, .US) (.WS is $13.95) (.CC, .BZ, .NU is $24.95) (.TV is $39.95)
Our starter package requires a credit of $495 to your account, credited toward 55 domain names. Thereafter you are not required to maintain an account balance, and can credit your account as needed to purchase additional names at $8.95 each.
Volume Package - $7.95 per name for all new registrations, transfers, and renewals.
(.COM, .NET, .ORG, .INFO, .BIZ, .US) (.WS is $13.95) (.CC, .BZ, .NU is $24.95) (.TV is $39.95)
This package is geared toward Technology Partners who go through more names on a consistent basis. For an initial account credit of $3975 you will receive 500 names at $7.95 each. Thereafter you are not required to maintain an account balance, and can credit your account as needed to purchase additional names at $7.95 each.
Premier Package - $6.95 per name for all new registrations, transfers, and renewals.
(.COM, .NET, .ORG, .INFO, .BIZ, .US) (.WS is $13.95) (.CC, .BZ, .NU is $24.95) (.TV is $39.95)
This package is designed for Technology Partners who deal with large volumes of domains on an annual basis. For an initial account credit of $6950 you will receive 1000 domains at $6.95 each. Thereafter you are not required to maintain an account balance, and can credit your account as needed to purchase additional names at $6.95 each.
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So unless you have $6950 to waste, I think its better off if you sign-up with one of the resellers to get $7.20 per name with about $40 set-up fee.. thats even a better deal than their partner program package 1 and 2.
have any ever sign-up with their package plan 1 and 2??
alpha 08-04-2002, 07:25 PM had another question that I'm hoping someone with a direct enom account can answer for me...
Let's say you have a reseller (or sub resller), and there are 5 (random number) domains registered under that reseller account... are you able to control the WHOIS information of those domains?
TimPD 08-04-2002, 07:52 PM Originally posted by alpha
had another question that I'm hoping someone with a direct enom account can answer for me...
Let's say you have a reseller (or sub resller), and there are 5 (random number) domains registered under that reseller account... are you able to control the WHOIS information of those domains?
Yes, You can:).
alpha 08-04-2002, 08:01 PM I don't think of that as a good thing since those who have reseller accounts might not be trustworthy and just take over domains without a good reason. I guess people who buy from Enom resellers might want to be careful not to register domains with those who would just threaten to take domain names - I know it has happened a few times on WHT.
DesElms 08-04-2002, 08:05 PM Originally posted by alpha
Let's say you have a reseller (or sub resller), and there are 5 (random number) domains registered under that reseller account... are you able to control the WHOIS information of those domains?
Originally posted by TimPD
Yes, You can:).
I'm sorry, that's incorrect.
Through his normal log-in on the eNom web site, an eNom reseller can access all DNS and WHOIS settings of any of his retail sub-account customers' domains. But once a reseller converts a retail sub-account into a reseller sub-account (or creates it as a reseller sub-account from the git-go), the reseller cannot access the DNS or WHOIS settings of any of the reseller sub-accounts' domains.
eNom's presumption is that by the time a reseller's customer is ready to be a reseller himself, said customer probably no longer requires the kind of support from the reseller that would require said reseller to be able to access the reseller sub-account's domains. Also, eNom decided that most resellers would not want the reseller above them to be able to get to their domains for any reason.
So, when a retail sub-account is converted into a reseller sub-account, the reseller's ability to get into the sub-account's domain name settings goes away.
alpha 08-04-2002, 08:08 PM Gregg, thanks - that was what I was trying to see as I thought it would be a bad idea of a sub-reseller account can be controlled by original reseller account as this could lead to some problems if the reseller himself decided to take any actions against one of his own resellers ;)
DesElms 08-04-2002, 08:34 PM Originally posted by alpha
Gregg, thanks - that was what I was trying to see as I thought it would be a bad idea of a sub-reseller account can be controlled by original reseller account as this could lead to some problems if the reseller himself decided to take any actions against one of his own resellers ;)
But there are other ways the reseller can hurt you, if that's your concern. He can, for example, raise your prices so that, suddenly, you can't use your account any more because your prices are no longer competitive. If you do not turn around and raise your prices in your account to accommodate your new higher cost, every one of your Registry Rocket or PDQ sales could go negative on you and eNom's system would suck the difference out of your account balance. The reseller could really hurt you with that one. And so it's important to select an eNom reseller who is basically fair-minded and not the sort who would ever mess you up even if you and he got into an argument over something.
The reseller could also cancel your account. Now, this one, I have not tested yet... though I should as an experiment. I've always wondered...
If a reseller sub-account that contains active domains is cancelled by a reseller, I haven't tested to see if the eNom system allows it and, if it does allow it, where the domains go. I've always presumed the eNom system would not allow it but if it did that the domains would go into the account of the reseller who's doing the cancelling. You should definitely find out (and, hopefully, someone who's tested it can post here and tell us what happens) if the reseller can hurt you by cancelling your eNom reseller sub-account.
If you're contemplating end-running eNom's high initial account funding requirements in order to get a competitive reseller price by signing-up with an eNom reseller who's offering $7.10 or $7.20 (or thereabouts) pricing without the huge initial investment, you might want to make sure that the reseller beneath whose account your reseller account would reside is ethical to a fault and would never goof you up in either of the ways stated above. I've always felt that a good, old-fashioned contract written on paper, separate and apart from any agreements anyone acknowledges by clicking on something at time of signup, would be a good idea in such cases.
ebay-nut 08-04-2002, 09:17 PM Hi,
I just tested the cancelling of a reseller account, or deletion I should say. Once there is domains within the subaccount it can't be deleted. Also you can't move domains from a subaccount unless you know the login of the user and password.
Your right though the prices can be raised @ anytime.
DesElms 08-04-2002, 11:41 PM Originally posted by ebay-nut
I just tested the cancelling of a reseller account, or deletion I should say. Once there is domains within the subaccount it can't be deleted. Also you can't move domains from a subaccount unless you know the login of the user and password.
Well, I knew that a reseller could not "push" any domains in the sub-accounts of any of his resellers. That would be something he could only do if he could log-in to the reseller sub-account. And the parent reseller can't see what the reseller sub-account holder's password is. Or his credit card data. Or the DNS or WHOIS settings of any of his domains. Again, once the sub-account becomes a reseller account, the parent reseller pretty much can't see or control anything therein except the reseller sub-account's pricing.
And not being able to cancel a reseller sub-account if there are any active domains therein is pretty much what I suspected would be the case. Excellent. Thanks, ebay-nut! That's one I've always wondered about and have meant to test but... well... you know how it is with finding time to do things.
So, there you go, alpha... Once you sign-up for an eNom reseller sub-account beneath another eNom reseller's account, all you really have to worry about is said reseller retaliating against you (after you've had an argument or you've in some other way ticked him off) by raising your prices. And a good contract between you and the reseller would probably help in that area.
VoxKeysGtr 08-04-2002, 11:46 PM Good thread. I have a sub-reseller account, and I hadn't really considered all of the ideas discussed in this thread. Some of it was a bit alarming, but Des Elms, as always, comes up with some good info. Thanks, buddy! :cool:
alpha 08-04-2002, 11:48 PM Originally posted by VoxKeysGtr
Good thread. I have a sub-reseller account, and I hadn't really considered all of the ideas discussed in this thread. Some of it was a bit alarming, but Des Elms, as always, comes up with some good info. Thanks, buddy! :cool:
Yep, Gregg and ebay-nut has been very helpful letting us know enom's reselling services' negatives and positives... thanks fellas ;)
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