on my new detecated server with plesk, should i use names based or ip based? and can someone help me with how to set it up?

Will

You can offer named based hosted to users paying you, lets say less then $10/M and offer ip based hosting to users paying more then $10/M, or offer ip based hosting as an addon with a one time setup fee... there are so many ways with which you can do this....

Namebased would be good for those clients who don't require an ip for any particular reason. Also, IP-based feature is usually in most cases an additional cost, and makes a hosting package much more attractive, then only a name based. Even though it doesn't matter to the client. Still makes it looks like a plus to the client :)

You should also ask your ded. server provider if they can allocate multiple IP addresses to your box. Usually they charge a small fee per IP monthly.

:agree: name based

:disagree: ip-based

its such a pain getting additional ip addresses from arin!

According to the ARIN rules, you can't use a dedicated IP address for web hosting anymore. So you might want to check with your host if they are okay with this before offering IP addresses with hosting packages. You should only be giving out or using dedicated IPs for SSL certs and also anonymous FTP access. That's why we don't offer such packages as we use name-based hosting for all accounts.

Alan

Huh? How's that? I'm not allowed to run one website only on an IP address?

As said above, you should only use a dedicated IP if the site is using anonymous FTP or has an SSL certificate. This is due to a shortage of IPs worldwide and about trying to preserve them until the next generation of IPs are released, IPv4 addresses.

This rule is subject to ARIN policy RFC 2050.

All sites should be setup on name based unless the above 2 things are needed.

Originally posted by ho247
According to the ARIN rules, you can't use a dedicated IP address for web hosting anymore. "Can't" in that sentence isn't exactly accurate. Some time ago ARIN did announce that as policy, then backed off from it a few months later in July 2000. Currently it'd be more accurate to say "shouldn't" in that sentence, or just that the practice is discouraged.

ARIN won't allocate new IPs for IP-based webhosting without specific justification, but since most hosts don't get their IPs directly from ARIN that hasn't meant an end to IP-based hosting.

More info: http://www.arin.net/announcements/archive/name_based_hosting.html

By my calculation the 255 number limit for each spot in the IP address still means that there are well over 4 billion possible IP addresses... there's a shortage?

Originally posted by RandyL712
By my calculation the 255 number limit for each spot in the IP address still means that there are well over 4 billion possible IP addresses... there's a shortage?

at the rate of new hosts and webpages, maybe....:stickout :stickout :cartman:

We used to use dedicated IP's for accounts, but switched to namebased. There's been no real difference at all between the two - even though I personally prefer dedicated IP's.

It's the spirit of the internet that the people with the choice to make things better should do so, hence using namebased takes the weight off the chance of a lack of available IP addresses every becoming a serious issue.

From a financial point of view using namebased does reduce the overheads of purchasing extra IP addresses so it's got a plus there.

There's no real justification for dedicated IP's other than the usual SSL, personal nameserver, anonftp requirements other than a personal preference.

Greg Moore