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jhcashman
08-01-2002, 10:46 AM
Whos the cheapest enom reseller?

i am thinking about jumpin on to the domain reselling bandwagon....

I have seen 7.25 for 24.99 at dn club and 7.49 + 21.99 from mrzippy here i forgot what his website is....but hes been quite nice with answering my ?s...anyone know anything about dnclub? Ive also see some deals for 7.10 and even 6.95 at ebay for less then $10 setup? But it seems kinda shaddy....

what do u guys think?

Acroplex
08-01-2002, 10:55 AM
It all depends on your business model. If you plan to be an end-user reseller you need to charge almost $9 to break even. Unless you really achieve high volume, shaving off a few cents won't cut it.

jhcashman
08-01-2002, 11:15 AM
well i am using this to 1. renew all my domains at lower cost and 2. to try selling them to end users....it figure in the long run it be worth it just for me to get it to renew my domains....

zoli
08-01-2002, 11:23 AM
Then you certainly need a good price... If you have 10 domains, you can save 10*0.2, 2 USD / year but if you have 100 or more your saves are more significant.

jhcashman
08-01-2002, 11:51 AM
yes u r right i can save alot....i have 7 domains personally but i have MANY friends who i have signed up using referal programs therefore i am willing to pay a higher initial setup for a lower domain cost which will save me in the long run....

btw seems like all the resellers have started to PM me.....

if your gona PM me....
Give me u r best price possible and u r setup fees...oh and please list prices for the other domains too like .tv and ect....

nayeem
08-04-2002, 08:03 PM
could some of the resellers pm me too? i would be interested in the $6.95 with a $10 setup fee :-)

Acroplex
08-04-2002, 08:39 PM
Originally posted by nayeem
could some of the resellers pm me too? i would be interested in the $6.95 with a $10 setup fee :-)

Never heard of anything so low; you might get $6.95 /domain but you'd be looking into $500 retainer or more.

ckpeter
08-04-2002, 11:08 PM
Originally posted by nayeem
could some of the resellers pm me too? i would be interested in the $6.95 with a $10 setup fee :-)
You are not very likely to get such an offer. Since $6.95 is the bottomline, the reseller would get $10 from you, but he in turns now created a competitor, and he can't profit from you. (since his price is also $6.95)

Peter

Bashar
08-23-2002, 12:40 PM
$6.95 ? i think enom resellers can set an account with $6.95 for other sub accounts due the %3 + $.095 enom take for credit card processing

ffeingol
08-23-2002, 12:56 PM
Bashar,

The reseller can setup the sub-reseller with any price that is greater than or equal to their wholesale price. There are no CC fees between the reseller and the sub-reseller. The sub-reseller pays the CC fees if they choose to use eNom's CC system.

I'm totally confused by all the eNom resellers offering very low wholesale prices with a small setup fee. The financial gain to the reseller is very small, but the risk is great (unless they are very sure about the sub-reseller).

The risk is with fraud. I'm not sure that all the resellers understand it, but if a sub-reseller has fraud and cannot cover it, eNom will try to go after the reseller (i.e. up the food chain). While I have not seen this in any of the agreements (IANAL) that is what I have been told by my eNom contact.

Just my 2 cents.

Frank

Bashar
08-23-2002, 01:07 PM
try it your self you cannot setup accounts for 6.95, i have a friend who did try to give me domains for 6.95 it didn't work and as he told me he took Matt's (enom's VP) permission to set it 6.96

i cannot tel for the 6.95 part due my account with enom is for 7.95 now and am able to set it to 7.95 for sub account but not less

ffeingol
08-23-2002, 01:33 PM
I could not do that even if I wanted to. It's below my wholesale price.

Frank

jhcashman
08-23-2002, 04:45 PM
humm i already got a 6.95 account i don't know what you guys are talking about :stickout

Bashar
08-23-2002, 05:18 PM
for how much setup jhcashman? and what about .bz .nu .cc .tv and .ws prices?

jhcashman
08-23-2002, 05:43 PM
this is what i have

.com $6.95 $6.95 $6.95
.net $6.95 $6.95 $6.95
.org $6.95 $6.95 $6.95
.us * $6.95 N/A N/A
.info * $6.95 $6.95 $6.95
.biz * $6.95 $6.95 $6.95
.tv $39.95 $39.95 N/A
.ws $14.95 $14.95 N/A
.nu * $24.95 $24.95 N/A
.bz $24.95 $24.95 N/A
.cc $24.95 $24.95 $24.95

pm me if you want to know anything else
:stickout

WildHunter
09-01-2002, 01:56 AM
What happened to the post from viisage???

I saw couple of post here and even went to ebay to bid (in fact I already bid) and now i am here to see where the post is at and its gone!!!

Is there some thing i don't know????

Any one....

Thanks

ckpeter
09-01-2002, 03:37 AM
They violated the forum rule of no self-advertisement in non-ad forum.

Peter

zoli
09-01-2002, 04:29 AM
Not always the cheapest is the best... :D

GordonH
09-01-2002, 04:50 AM
Trust me, I have been to the bottom end.
It will cause you big headaches.

Stick to paying a bit more.

Do enom list the customer or the reseller as billing contact?

If they list the customer and send renewal reminders to them then this may be a long term problem.
If they list the reseller, then some customers will complain.

But then, I am with OpenSRS and can honestly say I have only had two problems in the past 6 months. Both with .ca domains.

Reliability and transparency costs a bit extra.

Gordon

kreativ
09-01-2002, 06:25 AM
I wanted reliable DNS services to go along with my domain registration, and enom's the only one that can provide that. My previous registrar had limited DNS functionality, but with a limited amount of entries, no CNAME, etc., made it pretty much unusable for my purposes.

I'm paying less than before, getting better service from my eNom reseller, and have 5 geographically diverse and anonymous nameservers handling my DNS.

viisage
09-01-2002, 07:05 AM
I have also see fine prices at Dotster, but I think enom was cheapest.

WildHunter
09-01-2002, 09:01 PM
Originally posted by zoli
Not always the cheapest is the best... :D

Zoli, is there any thing i should be aware of. I am about to get the viisage's deal.

I was under the impression that in any case if the top reseller goes down (sorry viisage but i have to ask this!) the subreseller would still be ok and once you are a sub reseller your prices are "locked in" and you some what deal directly with enom rather dealing with top reseller. Also i am under the impression that the top reseller cannot delete your account - if there are domains and/or money in it.

Can any body pls explain.

thanks heaps!

TYPO FIXED

ckpeter
09-01-2002, 09:09 PM
The biggest problem with getting cheap enom account is that, while your parent reseller can't delete your account or take your money, they can increase the pricing. Since you can't transfer your money out of an account once you are in, you are placing your account at great risk.

Also, should you have any questions, your parent reseller is your first line of defense, if you go with a cheap reseller, you may be dead in the water if your reseller decided to ignore you. (especially those rock-bottom reseller, since they are giving you the same pricing and they have already earned the setup fee, they have no incentive to keep your account after the setup).

The price increase risk is the greatest - I know for a fact that viisage got his reseller account though another reseller on the same place, who could very well had gotten it from yet another reseller, etc.... When you think about how even one reseller in the middle can decide to increase the pricing and screw everyone under him, you begin to realize the great risk.

Peter

WildHunter
09-01-2002, 09:39 PM
Thanks Peter!

I think its back to square one. But you are right its better to pay some more and have peace of mind than pay less and worry all the time.

Thanks again!

Cheers

viisage
09-01-2002, 10:43 PM
You are welcome to do whatever you need to do. But if someone was offering domain reseller accounts ay $6.95 I would look into it.

WildHunter
09-01-2002, 11:44 PM
I have received an email from ebay. Here's a copy:


Please be advised that the following auction:

2049765259 - Enom Domain Registration Reseller @ $6.95
was ended early by eBay. The auction was ended due to the account suspension of the seller.

All results for this auction are null and void.

Regards,
Customer Support (Trust and Safety Department)
eBay Inc


Don't think i need to say any thing.

zoli
09-02-2002, 02:32 AM
As I said before, not always the cheapest is the best. You may save a few bucks on setup fee, but you may loose later.

WildHunter
09-02-2002, 02:40 AM
I am with you Zoli!

Nothing lost, its all good... :)

zoli
09-02-2002, 03:40 AM
Originally posted by WildHunter
I am with you Zoli!

Nothing lost, its all good... :)

I'm glad. Just do your "homework" and choose somebody you can trust. And, ALWAYS ask for feedback -on forums like WHT- about a certain guy / company BEFORE paying for something. Just my 2 cents. :)

GordonH
09-02-2002, 04:17 AM
Well
I have a $6.50 account from s-t-a-r-g-a-t-e
but I choose to pay OpenSRS $9

If I used the $6.50 account I would save over $2000 per month.

Price is not everything.
I am in a direct relationship with them, not through a chain of resellers and if something goes wrong I know it will be fixed quickly.

They also provide all the renewal tools and end users are listed as admin and billing contacts.

Gordon

dandanfirema
09-02-2002, 10:38 AM
Originally posted by ckpeter
The biggest problem with getting cheap enom account is that, while your parent reseller can't delete your account or take your money, they can increase the pricing. Since you can't transfer your money out of an account once you are in, you are placing your account at great risk.

Also, should you have any questions, your parent reseller is your first line of defense, if you go with a cheap reseller, you may be dead in the water if your reseller decided to ignore you. (especially those rock-bottom reseller, since they are giving you the same pricing and they have already earned the setup fee, they have no incentive to keep your account after the setup).

The price increase risk is the greatest - I know for a fact that viisage got his reseller account though another reseller on the same place, who could very well had gotten it from yet another reseller, etc.... When you think about how even one reseller in the middle can decide to increase the pricing and screw everyone under him, you begin to realize the great risk.

Peter




Actually you can transfer money from one account to another. I did this recently when I found a better deal on a reseller account from another reseller. The reseller support at enom is very friendly...no really, they are.

zoli
09-02-2002, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by GordonH
Well
I have a $6.50 account from s-t-a-r-g-a-t-e
but I choose to pay OpenSRS $9

If I used the $6.50 account I would save over $2000 per month.

Price is not everything.
I am in a direct relationship with them, not through a chain of resellers and if something goes wrong I know it will be fixed quickly.

They also provide all the renewal tools and end users are listed as admin and billing contacts.

Gordon

If you say that you could save $2000 / month with $6.50 domains, why don't you pay enom the $6950 for 1000 domains? This way you are perfectly safe (unless enom goes out...), and you probably save about $1500-2000 each month.

viisage
09-02-2002, 10:56 AM
WildHunter
Do you feel better about yourself for posting that? The suspension was for something totally different. Stay here and keep updating posts with **** you know nothing about.

GordonH
09-02-2002, 11:00 AM
Well
I am happier with OpenSRS.
Money is not everything in this business.

Its personal choice.

I like the renewal tools at openSRS and the way they put the ned user in the whois.
The also will NEVER contact the registrant.

Other registrars like Joker, do contact the registrant.
I just like to keep them away from the registrar to avoid confusion.

e.g. if they change the billing contact at s-t-ar-g-a-t-e
thye will be billed for the renewal by he registrar and not us so we lose out.

Gordon

ckpeter
09-02-2002, 11:47 AM
Originally posted by dandanfirema

Actually you can transfer money from one account to another. I did this recently when I found a better deal on a reseller account from another reseller. The reseller support at enom is very friendly...no really, they are.
How do you do that?

Peter

WildHunter
09-02-2002, 07:13 PM
viisage,

I apologise if I have stirred something. But looking for my side, things don't really look bright. :(

I am not, in any way, trying to put you or your business or your offer (in this instance) down. I am sure you have a perfect explanation, but as I said I came here to get a opinion and in return share what I know.

If I wasn't interested in your offer I won't pm you or bid on ebay. But as I said, things don't look bright from my side. But again, I apologise if "I have put my foot in wrong place".

rmartin
09-02-2002, 07:45 PM
Originally posted by ckpeter

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Originally posted by dandanfirema

Actually you can transfer money from one account to another. I did this recently when I found a better deal on a reseller account from another reseller. The reseller support at enom is very friendly...no really, they are.
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How do you do that?


Peter


I would also like to know if this is possible

Thanks

jhcashman
09-03-2002, 10:37 PM
btw I think if your parent reseller goes belly up then you will go back to enoms orginal prices of $29.99 per domain unless you go with another reseller or with enom directly. I am pretty sure this is correct can anyone confirm?

PrimeDNR
09-04-2002, 03:09 AM
Originally posted by jhcashman
btw I think if your parent reseller goes belly up then you will go back to enoms orginal prices of $29.99 per domain unless you go with another reseller or with enom directly. I am pretty sure this is correct can anyone confirm?


Yes I agreed with Jhcashman,

It's sure. So I think don't just look at lower price, but look for reasonable price with quality services will be essential.

Anyway, it depends on your needs and relationship with your registrar.

You'd got to pay it anyway, 6.5 or 6.95 or 7.95 or 10 or 23.33.

If you are satisified with the services, I will suggest to keep it. Say I have used directnic.com's email forwarding services. I am angry because I received the email 10 hours later !!!

My customers blamed me for not responding to their email. Oh my dear, hence I change to eNom and it was reasonable.


Best regards

PrimeDNR

manderso
09-16-2002, 01:37 AM
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TheWatcher2
09-16-2002, 01:58 AM
Yes close relationship to your reseller will give big difference to your business.

Don't just bite to the lower cost of sub reseller, this approach is mass reselling. Quality of service is not doing any good, unless they assign someone to your account.

Just my opinion.

TheWatcher.

LinuXpert
09-16-2002, 03:17 AM
Originally posted by TheWatcher2
Yes close relationship to your reseller will give big difference to your business.

Agree.

As I said before, you may not earn much money by selling Enom's sub-accounts but you can build a strong relationship with other people. How about offer them your API or hosting reseller services later?