Just thought I would share this, showing Shawn in his true light. Sorry if this topic has been beaten to death, but this really pisses me off. In this chat I am slumpy.


**this log is edited, I scrapped out all the other irrelevant messages. I did not take out anything to benefit me.**

[03:02] <slumpy> shawn are there any updates on getting data back from LS? or should we just expect to never see the data again?
[03:06] <slumpy> shawn are there any updates on getting data back from LS? or should we just expect to never see the data again?
[03:09] <msdossys> (slumpy): did you get your Q ansered?
[03:10] <msdossys> *answered
[03:10] * CEO-Shawn sets mode: +b *!*@msdossys'hostnameeditedout
[03:10] * msdossys was kicked by CEO-Shawn (CEO-Shawn)
[03:12] <CEO-Shawn> slumpy: Your question on LS - no ETA or updates on that situation.
[03:13] <slumpy> ok ty
[03:13] <CEO-Shawn> slumpy: Hope you're having fun with the naysayers :)
[03:13] <slumpy> what do you mean shawn?
[03:13] <CEO-Shawn> LS question: Your question on LS - no ETA or updates on that situation.
[03:14] <slumpy> but whats that have to do with naysayers? its a valid question
[03:14] <CEO-Shawn> slumpy: You know what I mean. You know very well what I mean.
[03:15] <slumpy> I know what you mean, but the fact remains its a valid question.
[03:15] <slumpy> i did not WHINE about the data, i asked if there were updates
[03:16] <CEO-Shawn> slumpy: I'm sorry, people who wish to linger and mingle with the people who would like nothing better than to sabotage our operations, I have no respect for. Sorry, have a good day. I'm going back to answering questions, not lowering myself to the naysayer level.
[03:16] <slumpy> lol. and yet you started this argument with your unnessecary comment.
[03:17] * CEO-Shawn sets mode: +b *!*@myhostnamewhichieditedout
[03:17] * You were kicked by CEO-Shawn (You can go away now, thanks! :))

I then mentioned in a different chat room #wingtalk that I would be posting to WHT. Shawn decided to show his IRC prowess by PMing me:

[03:19] <CEO-Shawn> I answered your question - we'll send some folks to the forums - you did not immediately get kicked or banned.
[03:25] <slumpy> YOU started the argument. I do not see where I erred

So there you have it. I don't know about you, but I feel attacked. For what? Asking if there were updates on getting our data back? Last time I checked, retreiving customer data should be a) a top priority and b) a VERY VALID question for a customer to ask.

Jesus.

<edit to remove hostname>

the cyberwings communist rule is coming down hard on naysayers now days, now its a crime just to chat in #wingtalk

tisk tisk :D

i am DrNick by the way :stickout

And what these children do not bother to tell you... Is how prior to this they acted like spoiled rotten 12 year olds.. Have been very insulting to staff as well as other customers. They have been going around making these posts to try and get people to stay away from CW.. And the one here isn't even a customer... just joinging in the little childish game with his little childish friends.

Pay no mind to these children as they know not what they say or do!

If one of them insulted me the way they have insulted the staff and other customers... I would have banned them too! But they CHOOSE not to tell you the whole story..just a part of it!

The guy hasn't changed one bit. It really makes me wonder how they plan to survive with their comeback.

lol, anyone can attest that I am not one of those people. Even CWV's.

I must stress that I will personally respond to every complaint filed with hundreds of letters of support and responses from me personally about the future of Cyberwings, our Rebuild or Refund project, etc. - CEO SHAWN


I suppose that was a lie... :D

swish, I will not attack you like you have attacked me, you claim I am someone I am not. You said in another CW thread you have logs for cyberwings chat. See for yourself if I am a notorious naysayer or not. I would also like to point this quote out from another CW thread. It is a post I made:

am a cyberwings customer. I have been for several months and never had a hitch with my website until the past few days. Basically, we(customers AND cyberwings) got screwed. Dunno who's fault it was, but Shawn IS commited to fixing things. He is not running away with the $. He is setting up a new data center with multi-homed bandwidth and is moving the servers ASAP. You can read www.cwstatus.com (official site) for more info about the problems.

Yes it is a nightmare, but NO, CW is not going anywhere. BTW, Shawn *owns* his data centers, the whole building. he's not some fly-by-night rent a rack guy. I dont like the thread starter's post because it ONLY mentioned negative comments.

OF COURSE people are going to be pissed off. Everyone is. But there are tons more users supporting CW than bashing. join irc.webchat.org #cyberwings for more info or just to hang out.

-Eric


As you can see, I was supporting CW. As you can also see, what I said was incorrect. Shawn does not own his datacenters. Shawn lied to us about that. Now do you see why I am a little angry? And then being banned for asking about data? Way to treat a customer. One that supported him too.

Originally posted by swish
And what these children do not bother to tell you... Is how prior to this they acted like spoiled rotten 12 year olds.. Have been very insulting to staff as well as other customers. They have been going around making these posts to try and get people to stay away from CW.. And the one here isn't even a customer... just joinging in the little childish game with his little childish friends.

Pay no mind to these children as they know not what they say or do!

If one of them insulted me the way they have insulted the staff and other customers... I would have banned them too! But they CHOOSE not to tell you the whole story..just a part of it!


Oh and what are you? Going around calling them children?

Hypocrate.

Originally posted by swish
And what these children do not bother to tell you... Is how prior to this they acted like spoiled rotten 12 year olds.. Have been very insulting to staff as well as other customers. They have been going around making these posts to try and get people to stay away from CW.. And the one here isn't even a customer... just joinging in the little childish game with his little childish friends.

Pay no mind to these children as they know not what they say or do!

If one of them insulted me the way they have insulted the staff and other customers... I would have banned them too! But they CHOOSE not to tell you the whole story..just a part of it!

Well, then would you please explain to all of us children what the WHOLE story is? I for one am very curious to hear the WHOLE story that we are CHOOSING to LEAVE out PART of.

If you can manage that in between passing the kool aid, that would be great. Thanks! :D

"[03:19] <CEO-Shawn> I answered your question - we'll send some folks to the forums - you did not immediately get kicked or banned. "

no, but I WAS for just wondering if he got his question answered... that was just very rude....

And to swish... you must be one of those "folks" sent to the forums.... hrm, i wonder if the ip that was logged for that post matches up with an op in the irc chat... hrm...

Originally posted by swish
And what these children do not bother to tell you... Is how prior to this they acted like spoiled rotten 12 year olds.. Have been very insulting to staff as well as other customers. They have been going around making these posts to try and get people to stay away from CW.. And the one here isn't even a customer... just joinging in the little childish game with his little childish friends.

Pay no mind to these children as they know not what they say or do!

If one of them insulted me the way they have insulted the staff and other customers... I would have banned them too! But they CHOOSE not to tell you the whole story..just a part of it!


Oh dear .. for those uninformed , this post is by none other than "ocsurfer" - yes the same one that runs the IRC channel #cw-supporters .

This is a person who publicly stated that he is a reverend . I guess that explains the "religious" overtones in his reply .

You see "ocsurfer" , from within the CW ranks there are people leaking information to the outside . Hey that's not easy with such strict "thought" & "speech" controls that the followers of Shawn impart on anyone who DARES to pose a logical question in regards to their accounts .

And when it comes to insults ?? .. ocsurfer-swish- , you are the champion of those . But I guess you have gone too deep to turn back now , you may have been promised "eternal hosting" in the Kingdom od Shawn ... :dgrin:

In this day and age for a company & it's owner to constantly lie to & show contempt for their customers is unforgiving . In the hosting industry it's make or break . Thinking that totallitarian style control over customers is what it takes to keep it all under wraps , has simply NOT worked .

How old are you "swish" ?? Do you work ?? Do you own or run your own business ?? Where do you get off on bashing people on this forum , the same people who have been bashed and cheated out of what was promised to them .

The sooner losers like yourself wake up and stop this charade of supporting the "almighty" Shawn the better it will be for the general population .

* Remember - web hosting = 24/7 customer service orientated industry . You know what that means ?? -- well , when you get up in the middle of the night , you go to turn your light on - you expect light . Because you pay for that light (electricity) . Now if everyone else in the street HAS light but you don't , simply because whoever provides it to you has decided that you shouldn't have it for a few weeks .. wouldn't you get pissed off ?? Or would you sit back , enjoy the darkness , make another payment for a service NOT delivered - and NOT explained why it isn't delivered .

You go figure Einstein .

:dunce: :dunce:

hey
where is this on irc
what is the address and chan name

irc.cyberwings.com
/join #cyberwings

Consumer Complaints can be filed at the following.

http://www.ConsumerAffairs.com

well said fantasmic0.

DAMN THOSE NAYSAYERS

(just kidding.)

You can't blame CW staff for not wanting to answer questions.. everytime they have they have been ridiculed and belittled.. no matter what they say. Most of you people seem to have such menial lives (not you Slumpy..) that you can never seem to be happy or content and feel such little self worth that you need to insult others and down them and belittle them to try and make yourself feel like somebody and feel important..

Harrassing staff on irc, telephone, going to their homes and making threats..

I wouldn't answer your questions either if that were the case!

The way alot of the customers have acted.. in a brick and mortar store..they would have been thrown out and/or arrested! Just because it is a click and mortar business doesn't mean the rules are any different.

You can judge for yourself by the posts of these so called "mature" individuals.. Kool-Aid..etc..

The staff has been more understanding then most would have been given the way they were treated.. they didn't treat any customers worngly until a few days fater the way they were treated and harrassed!

If you go to www.google.com you can find Shawn P. White of Old Orchard Beach, ME's home address and phone number -- by searching for:

shawn white + maine

* disclaimer -- this is public information, and therefore is valid for posting legally - and should be used for filing complaints only. I do not condone harassment.

Also, if you would like the snail mail address for Cyberwings:

Cyberwing Communications
PO Box 1052
Old Orchard Beach, ME 04064

You can use these addresses to file complaints at the BBBonline, or at the BBB in your state, or in Maine or Virginia. This might help rectify your situations or any harassment

Good luck!

swish/ocsurfer:


Most of you people seem to have such menial lives (not you Slumpy..) that you can never seem to be happy or content and feel such little self worth that you need to insult others and down them and belittle them to try and make yourself feel like somebody and feel important..

Harrassing staff on irc, telephone, going to their homes and making threats..


#1 - Insulting staff to make myself feel important? LOL! I am angry with the staff because I DON'T HAVE MY MONEY BACK and I never will. PERIOD!

#2 - Harassing staff on IRC, telephone...? You're kidding right? It's the Cyberwings staff that does this to CUSTOMERS! Mere insults on IRC are not harassment - but phone calls at 2 AM are. PERIOD!

Don't make yourself look dumb by trying to defend an indefensible position.

Nick... You are a child... and if under the age of 18 (which we know you are).. you are legally not a customer anyways! Whomever paid for the accopunt for you is the customer. And it doesn't matter if you are mad or not.. it still doesn't give you the right to bash staff and customers... Everyuone was angry about the downtime.. But atleast most chose to be mature about it.. something you will probably never understand.

So why don't you atleast act your age..young or not..??!!?

There are tons of logs to show your actions... logs taken by many people.. So, just keep living in "Nick's World" and only telling half the story...maybe some day you will believe your own lies.

I don't know what really went on with Nick here, but I do know that you come across as a rude CW stooge, swish. I find your comments, such as "But atleast most chose to be mature about it.. something you will probably never understand" to be the most "immature" parts of this thread. Perhaps the CW staff HAS been harassed these past few days - I wouldn't be surprised - but this is hardly an excuse for the harassment they have given their own customers now and in the past. I'm sure Cyberwings isn't the first company to have angry customers and not the first to respond unprofessionally, but that doesn't mean it is the right thing to do. As far as I'm concerned, independent of what anyone else does, CW and its disciples seem to be the ones at fault, because *they* were the first to act "unprofessionally." On a side note, I'm curious as to how Shawn can expect customers to act "professionally" or maturely towards him when he, as the supposed business man, doesn't set the example?

Im suprised shaun hasnt been aressted for fraud.. I hope he does. What a looser if you cant pay the bills then give everyone fair notice and let them get there data before you go down hard.. people will be alot happier then not being able to get there data at all. I wish he would post here lol.. I want to hear him defend himself... :angry:

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Shawn speaks out!

http://cyberwings.iscrappy.com/

How in the hell can they even stay in business?!?

<rant>
Im sorry but I have absolutely no simpathy for the users, clients, or potential clients that still use or plan to use this guys so called service. If your going to take weeks (or months) of "downtime" and still accept anything this guy says as the truth then .... well I just can't find the words.

This guy needs to be taking out of business for good for his immoral and unethical practices! I feel for the clients that did get burned originally, but if you are still hanging on to cyberwings then you get what you deserve!
</rant>

http://www.cyberwingsowesmemoney.com/

:emlaugh: :emlaugh: :emlaugh:

Originally posted by swish
You can't blame CW staff for not wanting to answer questions.. everytime they have they have been ridiculed and belittled.. no matter what they say. Most of you people seem to have such menial lives (not you Slumpy..) that you can never seem to be happy or content and feel such little self worth that you need to insult others and down them and belittle them to try and make yourself feel like somebody and feel important..

Harrassing staff on irc, telephone, going to their homes and making threats..

I wouldn't answer your questions either if that were the case!

The way alot of the customers have acted.. in a brick and mortar store..they would have been thrown out and/or arrested! Just because it is a click and mortar business doesn't mean the rules are any different.

You can judge for yourself by the posts of these so called "mature" individuals.. Kool-Aid..etc..

The staff has been more understanding then most would have been given the way they were treated.. they didn't treat any customers worngly until a few days fater the way they were treated and harrassed!



They are lucky i wasnt a customer. I would have sued them.


Class action time:)

HOW in the world can you defend the most childish, irresponsible, and unprofessional business owner that I have ever seen. Poor communication, insulting tone, and bald-face lies are just the start of his "CEO" personality.

Swish you should probably swish back to Shawn's lair and be quiet. Once you are there get Shawn to refund the money like he promised. I still have a lean on his Paypal account for $7.04.

I mean , come on Shawn stop booting people while your on your powertrip in IRC and answer their questions and refund their money.

Oh, jeez.
I don't know anything about cyberwings but the way questions are handled doesn't give me any incentive to, anyway.

Frankly, all this is very unprofessionnal. Could a mod just close this thread? Apparently it doesn't help CW former customer's cause, and it certainly doesn't help CW show a good face either.

This is all a waste of saliva^H^H^H^H^H^Hink^H^H^Helectrons.

I didnt read the whole thing, only saw the websites about cyberwings. LOL, this is so funny. But first of all, I'd have never signed up with someone selling $5.00 Secret Kit to possibly earn up to 10 000$ a month.

is this a joke or something? somebody pinch me

cbw_is_gay: those are some funny @ss sites!! LMFAO!! Thanks for the good laugh.

Originally posted by Jag
How in the hell can they even stay in business?!?




I tell ya how, CW has become a retard magnet! Every bonehead on the web who thinks $10 a year is no big deal to lose also does not mind rewarding a lying, rude, and laughable buffoon! If CW succeeds in signing up more stooges, this could encourage more scam artists to mimic the CW style. Just what we need. :angry:

http://www.cyberwingsscam.com/

Hurrumh! :)

Yup, have to agree.