News Flash!
We have just taken position 1, 2 on google for "webhost perth"

1st for:
cheap web host perth
webdesign perth
perth vcards
perth movie
dutyfree perth

How well does your name ranked?
inperth
tn3

and many other top 20 positions for various search terms.

In celebration of our proven Search Engine Optimisation (SEO) techniques, we are offering this same SEO technology to all WHT members for a special price

of US$90 (normally US$130)
We will optimise your front page for search terms that are relevant to your site and geographic location. Our techniques are proven on Google and also have similar results on Altavista and Fasst/Alltheweb (if your site is already listed with them). We will also monitor your results within google for 4 weeks.

Why have we chosen Google search as the benchmark?
Because Google is one of the most popular and largest search engines in the world. They also provide their search database and technology to giants such as Yahoo. Hence, highly ranked in Google will also equates to high ranking on their partners' sites!

**This offer is valid until 10th of August 2002 only. Terms and conditions apply.**



OFFER EXPIRED!
Thank you for your business and interests.

How about a special price of $1?

what was that for dave?

who in their right mind would start a search for a webhost by putting in perth or tn3... sorry, but it can't be too hard to rank a site number one on a search for the name when the name is something like perth or tn3...

James

Because "Perth" people would like to do business with a "Perth" based business.

You'll be quite surprise as to how many people actually use a "geographical location" with their search terms to narrow down the results. Our logs says so, and I'm sure if you analyse your logs, you can see how people finds you in a search engine.

If you have a business, for example based London, wouldn't you want your site to rank high when "London" is included in the search terms?

The question is: How high is your site currently ranked when your location is included in the search term(s)? If it's not in the top 10, then how else can you improve it?


NOTE: even for "web host perth" (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=web%20host+perth) there are "33,800" results! 1 and 3rd in 33,800, I'm stoked!

I'm fine as of now, but thank you for making your point! I shouldn't have commented... it wasn't helpful to your cause so I should have minded my own business.

James :D

not at all James :) comments are comments and constructive comments I valued, regardless if it's negative or not.

In your case, I presume you operate out of Madison? If you do, and a local wants to search for a web designner in Madison (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=webdesign+madison), are you in there with a chance?

There's a new merger, and we haven't done any advertising yet, but we will think of you if we run out of time and need to put more effort toward clients rather than search engine placement... thanks.

Answer: no I don't have a chance, because I'm 16... lol... good day!

James :D

Originally posted by tn3
what was that for dave? Nothing, I just want it for a $1.

Hmm....Just read these forums indepth...

webmasterworld.com

There is sooo much info and expertise on SEO techniques there....it can be very helpful...!

I agrees! There're many good tutorials on SEO, but they don't cover what I know. If you have tried those techniques and it works for you - GREAT! If it doesn't bring the results that mine does, then my service is available!

But what makes my service different compare to the rest (or even your own)?
If you look at the frontpages of my sites, there's no codes or texts that even suggests that they've been SEO'd, not even texts that are the same colour as the background (ie commonly used to hide unsightly SEO key phrases from normal web user).

My techniques target search engines without poluting your page (invisible to web surfers). That's the different. And proven that it works!

Don't forget that there many out there that charge twice as much as I do for SEO, there must be something we know that's beyond the tutorials/DYI stuff, otherwise there wouldn't be much business in "true" SEO.

What if you do the search the other way round..like perth web host...how well do you rank then.

If I rank on page 25 or 30 for my main search term..where would you expect to get me for $90...and how quickly?

Simon

Hi Simon

Originally posted by SimonMc
What if you do the search the other way round..like perth web host...how well do you rank then.


perth web host (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=perth+web+host)

Still number 1, in fact 1st (inperth.com), 3rd (southperth.com) and 5th position(tn3.com.au) !


If I rank on page 25 or 30 for my main search term..where would you expect to get me for $90...and how quickly?
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I would expect the results to be similar to mine (above) - in the top 10. I will look at the search terms you want to target and examine it, if I don't think I can get you into the the first 4 pages, I will not take you on as a client.

How quickly? When Google recrawls your site (usually every 3-6 weeks).


Franki

What about for other hosting companies in Perth for example, or Melbourne, will you provide the same service to them?

I will not provide this SEO service to other Perth hosters and designers due to the very obvious conflict of interest. Every other industries will be fine OK.

As for any other web host/design business outside of Western Australia, I will provide the EXACT same service. Except I will not be optimising terms which includes "Perth" or WA related.

So web hosting australia is cool?

If you don't mind competing with my own webhost service!

Originally posted by tn3
Because "Perth" people would like to do business with a "Perth" based business.

...


NOTE: even for "web host perth" (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=web%20host+perth) there are "33,800" results! 1 and 3rd in 33,800, I'm stoked!


Personally I'd rather have the #8 for "servlet web hosting" and #13 for "jsp web hosting" (among many, many other SE rankings) that we have now on Google.

I think at least for the web hosting industry, location is a lot less important than you might think. Unless your doing colocation, you probably don't care where your web host is located - so long as they offer good support, the features you need, and have fast connections.

Take care,

Brian

$90 for some SEO might be ok - but to preface it with you are No.1 and 2 for "web hosting perth" makes it sound like a scam - sorry. It is misleading, because the examples you use are nothing to get excited about.

Getting No.1 for "web hosting perth" would be incredibly easy.

My techniques target search engines without poluting your page (invisible to web surfers). That's the different. And proven that it works!
This line is where you can really get worried.


Go to Webmasterworld.com - read & save yourself $90

(tn3 - not trying to rain on your parade - many congratulations on your position in google, my comments are only related to trying to get $90 for it)

Originally posted by NovaW
$90 for some SEO might be ok - but to preface it with you are No.1 and 2 for "web hosting perth" makes it sound like a scam - sorry. It is misleading, because the examples you use are nothing to get excited about.

Getting No.1 for "web hosting perth" would be incredibly easy.

...



FYI - this guy knows what he's talking about. Do a search for "web hosting" on Google. Can you say top 10? That is impressive, especially since the site's not been around long.

... Not that I'm studying what your doing ...

OK, maybe I am. You and everyone who's top 10 at Google for certain terms. :-)

Take care,

Brian

Originally posted by NovaW


(tn3 - not trying to rain on your parade - many congratulations on your position in google, my comments are only related to trying to get $90 for it)

RAINING...Pouring more like. I think $90 for search engine optimisation is reasonable. I also think that the offer posted in the advertising area is well valid for the board.

What I don't understand is....what your point is. Infact...you have NO point.

"Hello everybody...read up on everything you can about Unix and start up your own web hosting company..that will save you $2 per month..."

The guy has posted a valid offer of a service. If you don't want it...don't get it. If you want to tell everybody how great it is to optimize your web site yourself...DO IT IN YOUR OWN THREAD!

Simon

Originally posted by bteeter


FYI - this guy knows what he's talking about. Do a search for "web hosting" on Google. Can you say top 10? That is impressive, especially since the site's not been around long.

... Not that I'm studying what your doing ...

OK, maybe I am. You and everyone who's top 10 at Google for certain terms. :-)

Take care,

Brian How are they in the top 10 at google, I don't see them...

FYI - this guy knows what he's talking about. Do a search for "web hosting" on Google. Can you say top 10? That is impressive, especially since the site's not been around long.

Considering tn3's website has been optimized for the one of the most unused search terms... It's not hard to be placed #1.

tn3: Now, what I'm wondering is... Is it possible for you to place my hosting website at the #20 rank of the search term: "web hosting" on Google.com? :rolleyes:

Terms and conditions apply

Could you supply a URL so we can view the Terms and Conditions?

I can't say I'm a professional SEO, but I've done my fair share of homework over at searchengineforums.com. ;)

What I don't understand is....what your point is. Infact...you have NO point.

To make it easier for you - here is my point again.

$90 for SEO may be ok - but to claim that you have a magic formula to get "perth web hosting" to No.1 in google is baloney. The site is cloaked - this can get your site banned from Google.

Getting to No.1 on a search that nobody does is worth nothing.

Anybody who is a professional SEO would not make an offer for services like that.

Of course - if you want to spend $90 on it - great - go ahead

All of your points are valid ladies and gentlemen, however you cannot group everything under one roof.

The results for the search terms as outlined above speak for themselves. Because you're not targetting your audience geographically doesn't mean that people do not use those particular search phrases. I don't know about most you, but why would I bother to target Perth audience if I don't see the value in it. Just because you don't look at your own backyard for a market share doesn't mean that I have to do the same. 95% of my business is from local people, I'd be stupid not to see and understand that!

In the month prior to my "re-targetting" searches, my logs show that out of the 200+ referrals from google and msn, 75% of those search terms (that leads them to my site) contains "perth". Don't tell me that "perth" is NEVER used in a search, you don't know what you're talking about. Since, achieving no.1 for those terms yesterday, my referral from google have improved by almost 50%. I've sold 2 hosting packages yesterday as a direct result of the the search term "web host perth", and yes both of them lives in Perth!

Also, you've neglect to mention the other phrases, how many "search phrases" have you got in the top 10? Not only I've managed to top 10 in search terms that I have targetted, the terms themselves are diversed: from vcards, to movies, to web hosting, to web design and many other terms which I have not listed are in the top 20. Further proof that my SEO techniques is different to what you've known to.

And for the claim that I was "misleading", how and on what ground can you make such a statement? State where in this offer that's misleading. Everything I place in the offer is FACT, if it's fact, how can it be misleading? I provide the exact search phrase to google and the google results speak for itself.

As I have stated, if you can DIY and you're getting the results you want, then GREAT - pat yourself on the back for doing a good job, you don't need my service and I'm not twisting your arm to use me!

As for those that are not getting the results you're after, there is someone out there that can help you.

This is an ad for a service like any other that have been posted in this forum. If you can do better, offer your own service in your thread and don't bag mine!

The evidence (google results) speaks for itself.

i do seo, And i'm from perth.
Thanks for alerting me to your cloaking techniques.
http://www.google.com/contact/spamreport.html If i thought that your company was a threat to us. LOL.
worse than CyGnet ffs.

evidence this evidence that.
blah blah blah
cloaking is against google's do's and dont's.
good seo is for the long term not the short term
why should people risk getting there domain banned from google and other search engines because you offer a $90 package which WILL GET THERE DOMAIN BANNED OR PENALIZED.
G i really do like that deal now.

What is cloaking, how is this site cloaked, and what does it matter to Google?

Originally posted by nuthin
i do seo, And i'm from perth.
Thanks for alerting me to your cloaking techniques.

Cloaking techniques, hidden text? Spam? As you can see, all the search phrases I have are "actually" relevent to my sites, what you see is what you get!

The last thing you want to do is upset Google!

Cloaking? hmm let me see...

Below is google's cache of the website. (eg. what googlebot would've picked up when crawling this site.)

http://216.239.33.100/search?q=cache:PUsk4z6exF0C:www.inperth.com/+web+host+perth&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

"G" is that really what the end-user gets!

Now, I take you to Google's do's and dont's.
http://www.google.com/webmasters/dos.html
Check the 'dont' cloak. first and formost.

Check your page:

<script language="javascript" type="text/javascript" />
<!--
if (top != self) {
top.location.href = self.location.href;
}
//-->
</script>

simple redirect.

eg: your cloaking, don't take me and other seo's as fools.

So anyone out there considering using this company who uses such seo techniques, don't.
You risk your whole domain been banned for something stupid like this.

Something like this company is going to do unless they change their ways.

Sheesh.. I'm ranked like 5th when searching for "lazy bitch" on google, and I didn't do a thing..

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=lazy+bitch

www.mwtlb.com (mywifethelazybitch.com) is my site.. well, one of em..

Originally posted by ajarvey
Sheesh.. I'm ranked like 5th when searching for "lazy bitch" on google, and I didn't do a thing..

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=lazy+bitch

www.mwtlb.com (mywifethelazybitch.com) is my site.. well, one of em..

Divorced? Or is it soon to be?

If I owned that domain name, I'd be neither, I'd be DEAD. :-)

Take care,

Brian

Actually, my wife is just fine with the domain. She actually wants to learn some graphics programs so she can maybe do up some cartoons for the site.

At first she was a little upset, but that only lasted about an hour or so. Then she was totally into it. Her only objection was that I couldn't setup the webcam (lazycam).. I'll find a way around it though.. :D