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tdotn
07-28-2002, 08:28 AM
Hey y'all gurus,
Im starting up a web design business, and looking for web hosting reseller accounts, and domain name reseller accounts. Can somebody recommend me to quality services out there?

I dont want enom because their pre payment rates are too high.

for webhosting, im thinking about VO, and voxtreme (based on this forum's recommendation). I like VO because its affordable, and pay per registration, but there's a price restriction because you have to pay per acc you sell too..meaning you wont make much profit.

I like voxtreme because you get a bunch of space, and split them out for as many acc as you like and only pay 1 month fee. (make more profits)

anyway, give me your thoughts about mine, and any suggestions is appreciated.

Thanks!

ffeingol
07-28-2002, 09:00 AM
Originally posted by tdotn
I dont want enom because their pre payment rates are too high.


Are you going to register the names for your customers or have your customers do it directly? If you customers do it, there is no need to deposity (pre-pay) anything.

If you are going to buy the for your customer, the you must deposit some money in your account. The high deposit amounts are only for direct resellers. If you signup as a sub-reseller, then there is only a minimum deposity ($100) via credit card. If you deposity via check or bank transfer, you can deposit any amount.

I know you said you were not interested in eNom, but I just wanted to make sure you understood what was required.

Frank

tdotn
07-28-2002, 09:14 AM
Are you going to register the names for your customers or have your customers do it directly? If you customers do it, there is no need to deposity (pre-pay) anything.

My customers will be registering the names themselves, so does this mean that i dont have to fund my account?

I requested the info, and they sent me a doc, saying there is a minimum of $495 in an account?


This is their statement.
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If this is NOT required..how do i open an account and start letting my customer's reg names themselves?

I noticed at wireddog, when you click on reg domains, it takes you to a page that looks like a enom's interface...does this mean wireddog is an enom reseller..but letting resellers reg themselves?

sorry if these sounds too newbie..im just starting out..

thanks

ffeingol
07-28-2002, 09:25 AM
Originally posted by tdotn

My customers will be registering the names themselves, so does this mean that i dont have to fund my account?



Correct. You only have to fund your account if you are going to purchase the domains for yourself.


I requested the info, and they sent me a doc, saying there is a minimum of $495 in an account?


This is only for a "direct" reseller. If you sign up with another reseller as a sub-reseller, you do not have to deposit this amount.


If this is NOT required..how do i open an account and start letting my customer's reg names themselves?


Sign up as a sub-reseller under one of the many resellers who have posted threads here ;)


I noticed at wireddog, when you click on reg domains, it takes you to a page that looks like a enom's interface...does this mean wireddog is an enom reseller?


yes, they are prob. a reseller then (I have not looked at their site). Enom has three "interfaces" Registry Rocket, PDQ and a full API.

Frank

tdotn
07-28-2002, 09:42 AM
Thanks ffeingol

now my next question is where do i find these resellers so i can sign up as sub-sellers? but..if i sign up as a sub-seller, how much profit can I make? I doubt nothing more than 2 or 3 bucks per name. anyway..for starters..this should do..

anyone out there?

alohahosts
07-28-2002, 09:50 AM
What we do is set up our resellers with a domain reseller account. Each reseller has to fund the account themselves, if they want to register names personally. Then they receive payment from the client and manually register the domain in the clients name.

If the reseller wants to allow clients to register domains themselves, then they must have an account that allows them to include the interface that the client can use.

Most resellers pick to fund the account by check, because then the 100 dollars in not required and then they just register the domains for the clients manually.

mrzippy
07-28-2002, 03:21 PM
Originally posted by tdotn
Thanks ffeingol

now my next question is where do i find these resellers so i can sign up as sub-sellers? but..if i sign up as a sub-seller, how much profit can I make? I doubt nothing more than 2 or 3 bucks per name. anyway..for starters..this should do..

anyone out there?

There's lots of eNom resellers in the forums here. If you sign up for a reseller account (sub-account), then you are free to charge whatever prices you want to your customers. You keep the difference between this price and the price your reseller charges you for each domain.

Many people charge about 12.95 or so for a domain, and depending on which reseller you sign up with you could make anything from $4 or more. (If your market is less internet savvy, you could even charge up to $30!)

Cheers!

mrzippy
07-28-2002, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by tdotn


My customers will be registering the names themselves, so does this mean that i dont have to fund my account?

I requested the info, and they sent me a doc, saying there is a minimum of $495 in an account?

If this is NOT required..how do i open an account and start letting my customer's reg names themselves?

If you sign up for an eNom reseller account, and then set up the RegistryRocket.. you don't need to have an account balance. The registry rocket allows you to offer full services to your customers including cc transactions, etc..

But if you want to manually register a domain, you'll need to fill up your account (either using cc or cheque or wire transfer) first.

CHeers!

mrzippy
07-28-2002, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by tdotn
I dont want enom because their pre payment rates are too high.

If you sign up with an eNom reseller, rather than directly with eNom, then you can still get a great per domain price without having to pay the high pre-payment amount.

Most eNom resellers will set up an account for you for free, but then there's a small setup fee if you want to get really cheap prices. Look around the forums here and you'll find lots of eNom resellers.

Cheers!

dgessler
07-28-2002, 11:33 PM
tdotn,

You should check out:

www.dnclub.com - an eNom reseller which charges you $7.25 per domain, and only a $24.95 startup fee.

http://www.aqhost.com/domreg/resellers.htm - eNom reseller which charges $7.49 per domain and a $29.99 startup fee.

Also eBay, an auction just ended today (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2041251765
) where the guy would charge you $6.95 per name, the final bid was $83, and if you check ebay every once in a while, you'll probably find another one of these auctions..

But if you want to have your customers register the names by themselves in real time, eNom has a $.95 + 3% credit card fee you need to pay for each name bought by your customers. I'm assuming if you register the names for them manually you don't have to pay these fees.. Good luck.

Dan

tdotn
07-29-2002, 02:37 AM
does anyone know anything about dnclub?

a few resellers said that their support service is 'good', so when signing up with a reseller, is this 'good support service' neccesary? I mean..what is there to support? domain related stuffs would be for enom's side?

let me in on some tips. im about to finalize my decision.. dnclub for $7.25 is a good deal.

THanks

DotComster
07-29-2002, 06:35 AM
I resell for 5 hosts and 6 registrars - add more when I get bored ;)

I recomend VO as a host, and that you also take another look at eNom - else go to www.BulkRegister.com or www.GoDaddy.com

kreativ
07-29-2002, 07:40 AM
If you want to take payments by CC but don't have a merchant account, then it seems to make sense to go the RegistryRocket path. Then you don't need to do any pre-funding of your account.

etWebhosting's Basic Reseller Plan looks good for those who plan on light usage. And since he posts a lot here, I figure his support should be pretty good to WHT members.

tdotn
07-29-2002, 08:41 AM
would it be sensible to signup with 2checkout for domain billing? would it be worth it? I mean..they take a percentage of what we make..so we make even less if we use them.

but im also reselling hosting too..

would it be worth signing up for 2checkout?

ffeingol
07-29-2002, 10:10 AM
Originally posted by tdotn
would it be sensible to signup with 2checkout for domain billing? would it be worth it? I mean..they take a percentage of what we make..so we make even less if we use them.


tdotn,

Every credit card process will take a percentage of your sale. It's just a matter of what the percentage is (plus other fees).

As far as eNom's CC processing vs. 2CO, just do the math:

eNom = $0.95/transaction + 3%.
2CO = $0.55/transaction + 5.5%

So, assuming a $15/registration (just for this example):

eNom = 15.00 - .45 - .95 = 13.60
2CO = 15.00 - .83 - .45 = 13.72

On the surface, it looks like you make an extra 0.12 per domain. OTOH, you have a 49.00 signup fee with 2CO, so that means you you'll need to register 409 domains (@ the extra $0.12/domain) before you're actually saving money with 2co.

If you need your merchant account for your hosting bussiness, then it's a bit different.

The other twist is that if you want to use your own merchant account you'll either have to code webpages using the API or register your customers domains by hand. There is some sample code out there, but coding to the API is not the easiest thing in the world.

Frank