We are in need of colocation for 2 servers which are not in rack case format, but in CoolerMaster ATC 710 (http://www.coolermaster.com/products/atc/atc710.html) cases.

The Hardware (in short): 1.5Ghz,512Mb,30Go, 2 x 3Com Nics

Our Needs: We need the servers to be on a redondant connection, at least multiple Oc3s with at least 3 different providers, with an available block of 32 ips, expandable to 64, eventually to 128 and either no bandwidth limit or a fairl high limit (~350Gb/mo). The servers need to be connected to an uninterruptible power source, and in a proper server room (air conditionned, fire protection, etc ...).

Our Budget: we are out to spend $100/server, no setup fees, and we would be driving to the colocation to install the servers.

Voila,
If you fit our needs, reply to this thread we will ask further questions :)

the kodezone team

look for a cogent provider

mmm I heard that $1000/mo for 100mbits fiber on cogent, I really don't know about that.

Good luck... your asking way 2 much for 2 little.

Closest that fits your budget is wholesalecolo.com

well I found a colocation host thast would do that for me .. you knwo where it's at ? Europe .. Belgium his Network is connected to 2 backbones, one Oc48 and an Oc192. He charges by the Gb of xfer, no matter what you use, you will still pay by the Gb of xfer. Fairly nice way of pricing for colocation, I think. I'm not flyin to Belgium though :p

umm no theres no way he has that much connectivity in Belgium

mm there is way, and trust me .be is FAST.

here's the link: http://www.mycyberhosting.net

It shows me that he's using Level3...

I didn't realize they either had an OC-192 or a OC-48 going into Belgium......


Trace route on: 213.249.98.18
11 212.187.128.5 281ms 270ms 270ms TTL: 0 (so-3-0-0.mp2.Brussels1.Level3.net ok)
12 212.3.239.166 290ms 270ms 270ms TTL: 0 (unknown.Level3.net fraudulent rDNS)
13 213.249.98.18 270ms 270ms 271ms TTL:243 (No rDNS)


So if thats going though Brussels, it must be his OC-192 connection....

*OC-192:Capacity of the network +-9 gbits Level3 communications Network Brussels

I didn't know L3 handles anything that big.....

haha they dont, and the page loaded pretty slow for me anyhow.

Im pretty sure belgium doesnt even have a oc192 running through it but i could be wrong... level3 def doesnt.

First off cogent isn't $1000/mo for 100mbps (i dont care what you read on their webpage, we have cogent, believe me, we know).

Secondly, to a provider as large as you're asking for you're nothing more then small potatoes (no offense intended), so you're not exactly gonna be able to haggle on price if you require a provider that has min of 3 oc3's.

Lastly, 350gb/mo actual usage will even out around 2mbps of bandwidth (when you consider lags and peaks), im not sure if you mean that as a total or per server, but 1mbps of bandwidth isn't like $20, 1mbps of bgp4 routed tier 1 bandwidth from a facility with at least 3 oc3's running into it.... I'd expect to pay around 200-500/mbps.

also, space costs a premium in most places, you're asking for people to colocate very large servers, a midtower (what you're proposing) is around 4-5u's in space, aka 4-5 rack unit cases could fit in the same amount of space.

Thats just my opinion, actually no, thats just fact.

Lastly,

That site you pasted the link to, is extremely fishy.

*The Hun is probably the biggest tgp worldwide when your servers are able to handle the hun traffic they are able to handle all kinds of high load traffic

They've got sex and porn banners all over the bottom, advertising for a porn site (a free listing one at that). Their apparent major payment system is paypal payment. Their site is laced with spelling errors, and their disclaimer is full to the brim with bull:crap:.


C. Service Disclaimers:
1.We will take care for all our materials and for a maximum uptime. However nobody is protected from any failures and we can't be held as responsible for any downtime.

I could go on, but it doesen't even take that much to smell a con artist, not for me at least.

cogent is 3000.00 for providers, its a little annoying to see everyone running around saying its 1000.00 not to mention people complaining when a host wants to charge more then 30.00/mbps...

I mean everyone knows were not in the biz to make a profit.. heh

Originally posted by cbaker17
cogent is 3000.00 for providers, its a little annoying to see everyone running around saying its 1000.00 not to mention people complaining when a host wants to charge more then 30.00/mbps...

I mean everyone knows were not in the biz to make a profit.. heh

Not only that, but due to the nature of the medium it's run across, you wont get more then 80mbps out of a typical link, maybe 90 if you're lucky.

Then people want two more things:

1. 100% cisco network (this is fine, but it costs big $$$, lets face it, any professional grade network for that type of capacity does)
2. They want burstable bandwidth, and actual usage, not capped, not 95th percentile, etc. and they want actual usage at $30/mbps, which is realistically like 1/2 price, which is absurd.

That and cogents prices are on the way up too, so :eek: to anyone who thinks they can hook up 100mbps for 1k/mo, do it and i'll move to your facility and manage it free for a few racks :laugh:

ok, let's say the .be guy has some grammar/typos problems :) his bandwidth is stil serious, we can't deny that.

now, the exact needs for us are basically a redondant pipe to the net, a fair ammount of ips (no less than 32), a fair xfer limit, and for $100/mo/box.

this is fairly easy and there MUST be someone out there that can fullfill this request...

his bandwidth is serious? how so?

Your not going to find that with a redundant pipe, closest you might find is wholesalecolo.com

if his bandwidth is so serious why not ship this guy your servers? :eek2: I think i know what would happen to them :laugh:.

Most people use fedex to deliver their servers, they don't drive 'em out, thats for sure, but still, for what you ask, good luck, you'll need it.

Why is the use of regular cases such a pain for you colocation providers ? I mean, ovh.fr has various cases sizes, nfrance.com, clara.net etc ...

Originally posted by kodezone
Why is the use of regular cases such a pain for you colocation providers ? I mean, ovh.fr has various cases sizes, nfrance.com, clara.net etc ...

Such a pain? Simple.

Rackmount units are screwd in, noone can bump them, knock them down, anything like that.

mid towers are 4-5 rack units of space, people build into 1u servers very often meaning you'd be taking up the same amount of space as 5 other servers, and space costs money.

rackshack has something about the size of my servers

http://www.rackshack.net/colo/images/05-15-02/3.jpg

but they only sell their servers :/ What a shame

Originally posted by kodezone
rackshack has something about the size of my servers

http://www.rackshack.net/colo/images/05-15-02/3.jpg

but they only sell their servers :/ What a shame

I think everyone here is familiar with a midtower case.

I'm not sure why i keep repeating it, but the reason it costs so much for colocation of midtowers is because they take 5x the space that a normal 1u server takes.

Rackshack is not a good example, as they concentrate in bulk and are the wal mart of dedicated hosting.

ah um ok.

Well then give me examples of who would accept my servers and for how much/mo with what caracteristics; maybe that'll answer my needs.

most colocation places would accept your servers. They would just charge you for the space. if they charged $50/1u of space then one of your servers would run $250 per month not including bandwidth.

It may be a good idea to rebuild your servers into a 1u server case or invest in a couple dedicated servers rather than colo.

Well... Figure most places charge you $50-$75 a U....

And a tower is 5Us... $250 - $375 /month....

350gb usage comes around 2mbit - 3mbit... Most cogent quotes I see for a per mbit is $55/month... And thats cheapest...

So another $110-$165....

Figure $540 per server.. And thats the cheapest hosts you can find.... No backup bandwidth, and not including IP cost, tech fee's, etc...

1u cases are expensive and require me to change psu, and cpu fans.

that is just not worth it, unless someone wants to buy my stuff back :) hehehe

ok... So you'd rather pay 300/month for a large case?

Hell you can buy a decent 1u server for 900 bucks...

Do the math and see which is the better deal :D

well see i'm just starting out as you might have seen, and I am eventually running out of money :/

If you are totally set on colocating, then selling your current servers could be a good idea.

It is unfortunate for you that most, if not all, colocation facitilies are set up totally in 1u rack format with no open space for large cases like yours.


I currently have 1 server in colocation that you can have for 375/month.

You will get ping times under 70, if not under 50 from across the country.

it is powerful enough to probably do the job of both the servers you were going to colocate. PM me.

I might change my plans then ...

Those coolermaster cases cost what? $200 or so?

You can get a 1U case with PSU for the same price.

those two are $133/case plus the PSU are $105/unit (enermax)

Originally posted by kodezone
I might change my plans then ...

A lot of people have more space then they really need, and if you asked around, or opened a request, im sure you'd find that you wouldn't be paying $300 to colo a midtower, as theres a few of us around that are very generous with such matters, and have spare space.

But regardless, $100/mo for a server and the kinda bandwidth you wanted still wont happen :)

http://www.level3.com/userimages/dotcom/maps/IP_BB_Map1.gif
That map shows that Level3 has an OC-102 going through brussels.

And to the poster. You can buy a compelte 1u server from http://www.interpromicro.com for under $700 So check them out. In the end its better to use rackmount that tower cases.