Hi, i was lookig for those grid type of managed hosting solution, but except mosso.com (which is pretty expensive to me) i only can find bad experience from other grid based hostings (Mt, GridLayer etc) in this forum here

-> Is there actually any cheaper solution that worked out for you?
-> Anyone has experience with amazon's EC2 service?

I didn't think EC2 was managed, and it's not exactly a grid, it's just a VPS and you can start multiple EC2 instances, giving you multiple VPS. Also, EC2 is still in beta and being worked on, from what I hear it has some issues regarding connectivity sometimes.

Mosso is the worst host I have ever used. My sites were all down for 2 days because their SQL5 cluster went down. For over 48 hrs! Mosso's clustered hosting just means that when problems happen they happen on a massive scale with days of service outages.

There are several other offers out there, and being launched/in beta. By service providers in the hosting market, the 3tera platform is powering service offerings, e.g. Layered Technologies and others. Does anybody have any feedback to share on experiences from using these services?

mosso.com (which is pretty expensive to me)

Actually, mossos is VERY cheap!! You get something like a full dedicated server with 80g space and 2000g bandwith for only 100$ and it is clustered / load balanced :) A dedi alone would cost more...

Mosso is sick. They pay people to post to this form. The admins at Web Hosting Talk need to assert their independence and kick these spammers off. The only value of a forum like this lies in its objectivity.

And what proof do you have of that? Making claims is easy...

If you are refering to TonyFF's reply: They ARE cheap considering the network, resources and redundancy you get.

Just look at how quickly a bunch of defensive comments pop up on this forum whenever anyone says anything negative about Mosso. No one has time to comment this much on a forum unless they are getting paid for it in some way.

The service is not that great. It is not reliable. The interface is proprietary and does not work very well. The system often gave me weird errors when I tried to do simple stuff like creating a subdomain. This required many calls to support and hours of my time.

It is simply inconceivable that so many people would so quickly and vociferously defend a crappy product unless they worked for the company. You should see their internal user forum! The users were literally screaming at the admins on a daily basis.

Anyway, I've got to get back to my real job. You've been warned!

LOL

So, marketanomaly you are referring to me - I am the only one that posted a 'defensive' reply for Mosso in this thread and I responded SO QUICKLY : after 31 days !!!! WOW!!! (thread created 08-23-2007, 02:35 PM and I replied on 09-24-2007, 03:08 PM when I saw the interesting thread title....)

Anyway, I understand you are angry because you got poor service.

I have not signed up with mosso, I was interested in their product and watched them closely - it was an exciting product but not for me for the moment (lack of crons, private nameservers, ssl etc. plus the 'frequent' downtimes that should not be there).

If they improve then I'll consider them again.

Anyway, I've got to get back to my real job.
Good idea, cause your assumptions are ridiculous :)

if you make an accusation...back it up or shut up...heh

anyone has real world experience on thegridlayer? good or bad

I've got to say these grid systems scare the hell out of me. Nice idea in theory but inevitably you have multiple layers of relatively new technology and that breeds complexity and dangers of failure.

In comparison the likes of Amazon EC2 based on Xen are much simpler and are doing a better job in terms of reliability.

I heard EC2 doesnt have control panel and requires expert administrator. Also issues regarding dynamic IP's and losing data if the instance goes down.

can you provide more strategic info on how load balancing/failover can be done on EC2 with mysql?

I heard EC2 doesnt have control panel and requires expert administrator. Also issues regarding dynamic IP's and losing data if the instance goes down.

can you provide more strategic info on how load balancing/failover can be done on EC2 with mysql?

You're right. EC2 is in many ways limited compared to regular VPS and other hosting plans. It uses dynamic IPs and storage has to be arranged on their related S3 storage service at additional cost. I think the storage service is file based so I'm not sure you could use it with mysql. The server instances are "temporary in nature" so not suitable for long term storage. You can load balance web traffic and applications across multiple EC2 instances and scale things up that way. It's niche at the moment but they plan to improve it.