Serverhost is providing this special for a limited time on dedicated servers. Serverhost's network consists of multiple OC3 and DS3 connections to the Internet. We provide 24x7x365 reboots and other emergency work, and free technical support from 9AM to 9PM Monday through Saturday, and 1PM to 5PM on Sundays. Through our agreement with VDI, we can provide the popular Cpanel/Webhost Manager combo on any server in our data center facilities.

Our current connectivity:

OC3's: Level3, Global Crossing
DS3's: UUnet, Genuity, SAVVIS, Cable and Wireless

* 667MHz Pentium 3 CPU
* 128MB PC133 SDRAM
* 20GB IDE Hard Drive
* 10/100 NIC
* Redhat 6.2
* 10GB Data Transfer
* Monthly average data transfer billing
* Unlimited IP addresses
* No contract required

No longer available

- Add Cpanel and WebHost Manager for $100/month
- Upgrade RAM to: 256MB - $100 setup, 512MB - $200 setup
- Additional transfer $3.00 per GB or $2.50 purchased in 20GB blocks

Also, for a limited time, we are not requiring a contract on any of our normal plans located on our website at http://www.serverhost.com/linux.shtml.

The promotional price is guaranteed to the customers for at least one year. New signups will be taken through at least the end of February. A long as you do not want CPanel/Webhost Manager, we will install any readily available free operating system you want.

All new servers are being placed in our new data center, located in the heart of downtown Greenville, South Carolina's central business district. If you'd like to tour our facilities, contact me via e-mail and we'd be glad to show them to you.

Online ordering: https://www.domainbuilder.net/sh-order.shtml

As always, if you do not feel comfortable with our form, feel free and fill it out excluding the sensitive credit card information, submit it, and then give us a call. We'll take the credit card information over the phone.

For any questions, contact me at jk@serverhost.com or call me at 877-975-8793 toll-free.

E-mail me if you would like to view the deleted posts from this thread, and I'll point you in the right direction.

Regards,

[Edited by jkehe on 03-03-2001 at 08:47 PM]

How long will this deal last, jeff! All I can say is wowwww!

cheers,
:beer:

damnnnnnnnnnn, sweet ass deal!

Originally posted by jkehe
Also - prepay for a year in advance and get the same deal at $59 per month with $59 setup ($767 total).

Cool :D

Any chance of getting freeBSD installed on one of those?

Sure, as long as you do not want CPanel/Webhost Manager, we will install any free operating system you want.

Ohh, god that's a nice deal.....

jkehe, this may be kinda off topic, but I was wondering, is serverhost.com, plusweb.com and domainbuilder.net, sister concerns of the same company? Is it something like tera-byte and 4webspace or what?

I have a server with plusweb/serverhost for about 2 month now, their prices are much better then the competition and I do not know of them having even a minute of network or power being down so far.

some of you may ask for my site... so here you go
http://216.215.251.16/image.jpg
This is a 400 kb image

[Edited by energy on 02-25-2001 at 04:14 PM]

Hey guys, everyone should be entitled to their 15 minutes of fame and be allowed to use the Advertising Forum for its purpose, advertising.

If you have something to say about a host, please start a new thread and don't piggy back the issue in the Advertsing Forum. Keep it civil and don't insult and it will be left open. I only lock the threads or delete posts when people start throwing out things that don't apply or start name calling.

I realize it happens very rarely here, so hopefully anything further on this issue can be discussed just fine. See the three pages Jeffrey listed and please keep this thread toward questions about the offer.

Danke.

Am I not allowed to post anything into my own thread anymore? I posted a message this morning, it showed up for about 5 minutes, and then it disappeared. I do not appreciate the moderators deleting my posts.

Regards,

Originally posted by jkehe
Am I not allowed to post anything into my own thread anymore? I posted a message this morning, it showed up for about 5 minutes, and then it disappeared. I do not appreciate the moderators deleting my posts.

Regards,

Jeff, was the new post, about the other deleted posts? As in, was it responding to the any of the deleted posts? If so, then the Chicken must have deleted it, since it must be off topic. I dun see any other reason as to why it got deleted.

Originally posted by kunal
[QUOTE]Originally posted by kunal

Jeff, was the new post, about the other deleted posts? As in, was it responding to the any of the deleted posts? If so, then the Chicken must have deleted it, since it must be off topic. I dun see any other reason as to why it got deleted.

Actually I saw that post.... it was just "Bump" ... to make this thread go into the top of the list again, which I think is OK, since I have seen it done my some other hosts too :D

Dunno why it was deleted... :)

cheers,
:beer:

ah. oh ok... well I dunno why Chicken or BC deleted it. It could have been any of them.

I read somewhere that you take the average of the monthly 2-hour average from MRTG to calculate bandwidth usage. How does this actually work out?

I've never used mrtg before, so I don't really understand how it works. I know it takes samples of bandwidth used every 5 minutes. How do these samples get turned into 2-hour averages? Sum of all samples over 2 hours and divide by number of samples? How is the monthly average calculated? Is it the sum of all 2-hour averages over the month and divided by the number of averages? Tried taking a look at some sample monthly average readings on the net, but it's not entirely clear how that works out.

Even after obtaining the average of the monthly 2-hour averages, how do you arrive at the bandwidth used? Do you multiply the bps figure by the number of seconds in a month and try to obtain the number of gigabytes transferred in all that way? If so, 10gigs/mth comes down to something tiny like 31,000bps :)

I'm probably not so interested in setting up a web host, but in having a box of my own to play with, and run various services. Expected traffic is pretty low, with even distribution between incoming and outgoing, rather than heavily skewed outgoing traffic as with typical webhosts. Therefore, it is advantageous to me to find a host that charges by the maximum of incoming & outgoing traffic, rather than the sum of both - any idea if this is possible? After all, if you get a 128kbps line, you get a maximum of 41 gigs incoming as well as outgoing traffic. Under schemes that aggregate incoming and outgoing traffic, this 41 gigs of transfers is only really equivalent to a 64kbps line.

I hope I haven't been totally incomprehensible in my ramblings. Also wonder how the other traffic measurement methods really work and how they compare. ie, 95 percentile, 'average' transfer, 'actual' transfer. Would be appreciative if someone could point me to where these terms are better defined.

Originally posted by jkehe
Am I not allowed to post anything into my own thread anymore? I posted a message this morning, it showed up for about 5 minutes, and then it disappeared. I do not appreciate the moderators deleting my posts.

<<start topic tangent>>
I posted the same day, thus it was at the top of the list already, and yes, I delete every 'bump' I see. Not only is it pointless and causes people to click on posts where there is nothing new added, it also doesn't give others a chance at the top.

If anyone sees a 'bump' that we missed, please report it to moderators@webhostlink.com and we'll delete it.

(And you are welcome for the time I spent deleting 2 pages worth of garbage posts :smash: ).
<<end topic tangent>>

This looks like a fine offer, particularly if you don't mind prepaying, but I have to ask why so many hosts for dedicated servers offer such limited bandwidth as a starting point. Whatever your intended use for the server, you don't get one because you think small.

At least you're one of the less expensive offers I've seen. Good luck. :)

Originally posted by jfiliss
This looks like a fine offer, particularly if you don't mind prepaying, but I have to ask why so many hosts for dedicated servers offer such limited bandwidth as a starting point. Whatever your intended use for the server, you don't get one because you think small.


I can think of a reason why.... :)

If I want to host about 10 of my clients sites, each consuming about 1GB of transfer (note: statistics shows that in the average each account will consume probably around 300-400MB of transfer per month), then this kind of offer works pretty well. You can be a reseller with a reseller account, sharing the server with 300-500 other accounts, but then for that 10 clients, you will probably end up paying more to your host (10 accounts + your own reseller account). With your own server, you can easily configure it to your needs. You pay only for the total transfer shared among all the clients.

If your business grow, then... still, you will be paying only for the transfer... It still costs less if you have to buy more for extra transfer....I think even at $3/GB it is still reasonable. Being a reseller, you end up paying about $3-$5 anyhow.

There is still some other reasons that you can think of... How if you need to have your own server because you are developing software where resources of the server is more important than total data transfer?

Another reason? I have a plan to offer free hosting to non profit organizations (local churches, etc)... this kind of deal works pretty well, since even if I got a reseller account, at the end, it will cost me more to host even 10-20 accounts...

cheers,
:beer:

That is exactly my point. A major reason to get a dedicated server is to easily host multiple domains. Now are you going to limit your 10 clients to 1 GB of transfer each? Are you going to limit your number of clients to 10? Are you going to limit the number of non-profit or courtesy sites you put up, so as to stay under your window? Sure you can pay for extra bandwidth, but then these low cost deals aren't quite a bargain anymore.

I don't necessarily mind seeing dedicated server deals that start off at 10 GB, but they seem to be everywhere, and I would be surprised if the same proportion of customers were saying, "Oh, that's fine, I'll never use more than that." Or consider the costs of going over the limit to be fair. I think some of these dedicated hosting servers are missing market needs for the year 2001. Right now there are a large number of virtual hosts that offer outstanding prices in regards to bandwidth, and too few dedicated servers that seem up to date with that.

New pricing for additional bandwidth:

$3.00 per GB - purchased individually
$2.50 per GB - purchased in blocks of 20GB
$1.50 per GB - purchased in blocks of 100GB

Hope that helps. :)

Regards,

Originally posted by pyng
If so, 10gigs/mth comes down to something tiny like 31,000bps :)

Yeah, that's about right. 32Kbps or so.

Under schemes that aggregate incoming and outgoing traffic, this 41 gigs of transfers is only really equivalent to a 64kbps line.

We only usually look at the outgoing bandwidth, but if the incoming bandwidth is higher, we'll bill based on the incoming bandwidth.

Hope this helps.

Regards,

Jeffrey, sorry if it seems like I'm picking on you, friend. :) This is more just a general statement of what I've been seeing. Best of luck with your hosting business!

I'm really interested in that special and I sent an email to jk@serverhost.com last night but haven't gotten a response.

I know, I am a pessimist, but I can't for the life of me figure out how this deal is a money maker. Especially if you prepay for a year.

Paying in advance will allow Jeff to pay for the server and one year long contract. Of course, then Jeff will expect the owner to grow and consumes more bandwith.... Then he will make money for the bandwith... But even at $3/GB, I don't think he is making a lot of money from bandwiht :) Anyway, all I can say is it's good business, no cheating :D I wish I could have signed up with him if not that I need CPanel3/WHM :(

cheers,
:beer:

[Edited by dektong on 02-28-2001 at 09:45 PM]

Don't get me wrong, I am not saying this is not good business. Heck, we all have low priced offerings to get people in the door.

But, even at $767, that will just about cover the cost of the server, but what about the years worth of time and support and bandwidth, etc. And just paying for the equipment will not really generate too much income to pay overhead costs and make room for a profit.

I understand the reasonings, but I wouldn't want to dedicate a years worth of dedicated servers for just covering my costs. There is too much that can go wrong with ded servers to not turn a reasonable profit. I'm sure Jeff worked it out that he is making money, but I can guarantee that it can't be much. If he is expecting a lot of volume to make his profit, then that's great. But he now just increased his tech support by that much as well.

Again, I am not bashing him, I am just trying to understand the logistics of this great deal!

Agree with you completely... I guess Jeff has his own way that we can't comprehend at this time :D

cheers,
:beer:

Is this offer still good? I emailed you some questions about it, but havent gotten a reply yet...

Anyone that has e-mailed me in the past few days, I'm getting to your e-mails - I've been getting about 100 e-mails per day about this offer and my other promotion - the full rack/one Mbps for $599/mo, and because of that I have a serious backlog.

We are offering these promotions to cover costs and to advertise... I am hoping that this promotion will get our name out as not only a low-priced dedicated server host, but also as a high-quality and dependable dedicated server host.

I apologize that the sales aspect has been a little slow, but please understand that I am the only one handling sales right now, in addition to my other responsibilities. Everyone will get an answer before the end of the week.

As I said, the promotion would at least end until the end of February. Anyone who has submitted their order up to this point will have their order setup at the original fees. Anyone who has inquired to this point, will have the opportunity to order within the next seven days at the original price. We will still offer a similar deal, but the prices will be slightly higher:

- March Server Special

* 750MHz Pentium 3 CPU
* 128MB SDRAM
* 20GB IDE Hard Drive
* 10/100 NIC
* Redhat 6.2 or FreeBSD 4.2
* 10GB Data Transfer (about 32Kbps average)
* Monthly average data transfer billing
* Unlimited IP addresses at no charge
* No contract required

$129 per month
$99 setup fee

* Prepay for a year in advance at only $99/month (total $1287)

- Add Cpanel and WebHost Manager for $100/month (Redhat 6.2 required)
- Upgrade RAM to: 256MB - $100 setup, 512MB - $200 setup
- Additional transfer $3.00 per GB or $2.50 purchased in 20GB blocks
- Add Windows NT with PCAnywhere for $30/month

Order form: https://www.domainbuilder.net/sh-order.shtml

If anyone is interested, drop me an e-mail or give me a call 877-975-8793 toll-free.

Regards,

[Edited by jkehe on 03-03-2001 at 08:52 PM]

I have replied to all e-mails I have received in regards to this special. Thanks for all of the inquires.

Regards,

Jeffrey Kehe

Heya, i never got a reply to my email :( I emailed you from snoturtle@yahoo.com

I just sent you another email, I look forward to your quick reply.

[Edited by SnoTurtle on 03-03-2001 at 08:16 PM]

SnoTurtle:

I did receive your first message, and I have already replied. I got your new message:

- Message received by our servers at 8:15PM EST
- Reply sent 8:37PM EST

I edited this post to reflect that I did actually receive his message, and I already replied, after looking carefully through my Sent Items box.

Regards,

[Edited by jkehe on 03-03-2001 at 08:58 PM]

It may have been yahoos problem, im stuck using yahoo mail until i change hosts.(hence the reason for the email) BTW, i just sent you a 2nd email...

so its 100$/month WITH the Cpanel3?
Thats it? or it it 79$rental + 100$Cpnael3 rental = 179$/month?

Just want to know im realy interested ;]

Cheers

Craig

Unfortunately, the $79/month server is no longer available. We can offer our March special at $129/month, but to include CPanel3 and WHM, we must charge an additional $100/month, coming out to $229/month total.

Regards,

Damn missed by a couple of days eh :(

how come its soo much more to have a Cpanel3?

Cheers

Craig

Because VDI charges us a lot because we don't use their data center.

Regards,

i wished that would change :(

We may be releasing a control panel of our own soon... I'll keep everyone informed.

how soon?! :)

We are still working out the bugs, and trying to add all of the same features that CPanel/WHM currently offers, but an exact ETA is not currently known. I'll try and get some screen shots for everyone once we get it looking pretty.. :)

Yes, please.... list the features too ... demo sites if possible... :D

cheers,
:beer:

The control panel will have all of the features of Cpanel, including the auto-update feature. We will have more details available soon.

Thanks,

Will it be open to outside hosts??

Yes, it will be. We're working on pricing, but here is our current proposed plan:

$25 per month - inside of our data center
$75 per month - outside of our data center

That pricing is not guaranteed, but that is what has been suggested. We're still working out the details, so the pricing may change.

Regards,

hopefully not at a price cpanel is...

Hello,

a Question to your CP: Have you any Limitation for/on Linux-Distribution ? Will it working on Caldera eServer ?


Originally posted by jkehe
We are still working out the bugs, and trying to add all of the same features that CPanel/WHM currently offers, but an exact ETA is not currently known. I'll try and get some screen shots for everyone once we get it looking pretty.. :)

Right now the control panel will only work with Redhat 6.2. We're looking at porting it over to FreeBSD 4.2 as well.

Regards,

Jeffrey,

I e-mailed you (jk@serverhost.com) yesterday to clarify a few details and say that I'm pretty much ready to order the previous (not March) special, but haven't received a response since.

I realise that that special is no longer on offer, but you did say that anyone who had inquired up to a certain point would have the opportunity to order at the original price. I'd indicated some interest in my earlier post to this thread, as well as via ICQ to your sales UIN 3000984 on 28th Feb, before your post. Can I still receive the offer at the original price?

Have you not answered my e-mail and ICQ because you have been too busy (and of course because yesterday was Sunday)?

Thanks,

Please bear with me - I'm getting to everyone's e-mails. I didn't get to sales e-mails yesterday, because to be honest, I needed a little break. PYNG, please e-mail me with the details and I'll see if your inquires would make the February special still available to you.

Regards,

Ahh, certainly. Of course I can understand you wanting the weekend to yourself :) I was just getting a little concerned because the 7 day limit was coming up.