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DJiMPaCT
07-25-2002, 02:02 AM
Hey, I am on the market for some software or a webapp, which will process credit cards etc.. something like ubersmith or modernbill. Which has the most features and is the best value?

Also which merchant account would be best? 2checkout or authorize.net? Since these are small amounted packages ($5-$10) per purchase I would like to know which is the best?


Thanks,

DJiMPaCT
07-25-2002, 02:06 AM
P.S. I am Canadian, since some places you need to be american.

George
07-27-2002, 01:55 AM
you might also want to consider perlbill, www.perlbill.com (http://www.perlbill.com)

smc_one
07-27-2002, 11:30 AM
Because I am a programmer, I ended up building a client-management system from scratch.. By doing so, we have a completely customized solutions for our company with no fees. For the average person, who would need to hire a programmer, I still think this may be an option to build a custom solution once for a one-time fee, so you can mold the app to your business, rather than mold your business around the app.

Just my 2 cents

DJiMPaCT
07-27-2002, 09:45 PM
Yes that is what I was considering, but I sort of wanted this quickly..

Perlbill - doesn't process the credit card?

Synthetic
07-27-2002, 10:09 PM
PerlBill doesn't process credit cards because it isn't a payment processor.

eHostPros
07-27-2002, 10:12 PM
I would recommend Modernbill + authorize.net :D
I used paypal before, it not for hosting :(
Then I also did Dreamhost + authorize.net :(
Do not go with dreamhost , they are a very buggy software and support do not exist, it took them 2 months to answer my single question.
Modernbill is A+ support, Admin does a good job :)

-Rupi

Incognito
07-27-2002, 10:47 PM
I would add phpManager. And they do have the capacity to link directly to your card processor including 2checkout, revecom, and even paypal-any link based processor.

The Prohacker
07-27-2002, 11:17 PM
Originally posted by Incognito
I would add phpManager. And they do have the capacity to link directly to your card processor including 2checkout, revecom, and even paypal-any link based processor.



I disliked phpManager's scripting when it frist came out... I was thinking maybe in 1.1.1, I would look and see he had improved upon it...

Well when I open the files, I find that he used phpGuardian on all the files...

Not only can you not see them, you cannot modify them..

This was of course the demo, but from the comments on his forum, the sale version is encoded also....

With the release of PHP 4.2.2, the encoder did not have a module ready, and phpManager was left high and dry not working for several hours....

Its one thing to want to cut down on piracy, but when you start encoding your scripts, you've crossed alot of lines..

Many scripts allow you to modify the source and apply hacks to add features you want, like vBulletin, I don't think it would be nearly as popular today if it was closed source..

When people start to have more and more problems, they'll see whats wrong with file encoding, especially when your doing something for billing....


The only good thing I see from this is that it would be a little harder to get access to the database, but that is much comfort...

Incognito
07-27-2002, 11:29 PM
While some of what you say may be true, I have found the normal modifications to be quite easy to make and have encountered no problems with the product which I use on many different sites. My only criticism would be a couple of issues with upgrades, but Locutus has always responded very quickly and professionally.

Locutus
07-28-2002, 11:31 AM
Hi,

Prohacker: Yes, the demo is fully encrypted for obvious reasons i.e people like yourself :p No offence intended, but it's your name :D

You get 99% of the source code on the licensed scripts. Only the install script (which only needs to be run once) and the config script are encrypted (this is because it does the decryption).

SurfTurtle
07-28-2002, 03:31 PM
I also vote for ModernBill.com as its the best software. I love it and the support so far has been great. They increased the price of modernbill a while ago but apart from that its still a good price.

BuffaloWeb
07-29-2002, 10:14 AM
I've used phpManager + 2CheckOut (and PayPal) for quite a while with few if any problems. And yes, you can edit the code as much as you like really.

DJiMPaCT
07-30-2002, 03:02 AM
Thanks, I signed up for 2checkout the other day, and I think i will get PHPMANAGER now as well just to complete it.

linnemeyer
08-17-2002, 08:29 PM
Originally posted by Synthetic
PerlBill doesn't process credit cards because it isn't a payment processor.

I am also looking at Perlbill and Modernbill but this statement raised a question. When it comes to these 2, what is the difference between them on the topic of processing credit cards? I thought that your merchant account or 3rd party vendor (HostCharge.com) took care of this function?

Thanks for all replies in advance. :)

Jeff

ServerSonic
08-17-2002, 08:40 PM
I've been using phpManager for quite some time. Just as Locutus claims, it is a low end solution for lower budget hosts. I agree that some of the scripting in it is a little confusing and should be better commented. However all in all it is a good deal for its money.

I was a tiny disappointed with they way that the last upgrade was released. The average user would not have been able to upgrade, they would have had to rebuild from scratch. Also the documentation on the scripts is poor. The forums are helpful but no replacement for a real guide to operation.

Basically if youve got the money for something like ModernBill - Go for it, if you don't phpManager is a great solution for you until you grow into a larger level of software.

geografx
08-18-2002, 12:19 AM
Ah Jeff now you find out why it is important to choose your software first then find the gateway that will work with it.

Currently ModernBill TIer2 version 3.1 supports Authorize.net, PlanetPayment, QuickCommerce, eProcessingNetwork,
RTWare, & MerchantCommerce gateways. You might want to check the support forum to see what else might be out there.

Might also want to check the PerlBill site to see which gateways it supports.

Barbara

Benjamin
08-18-2002, 01:46 PM
From what I've seen, it looks like phpmanager does not let you automatically have recurring monthly (or quarterly, for that matter) payments. If you want to use phpmanager, you have to use someone like revecom or 2checkout so you can have recurring automatic payments.

Is this true? I know ModernBill supports this, although does PerlBill?

ServerSonic
08-18-2002, 01:48 PM
You are correct Benjamin, phpManager requires that your payment processor handle the recurring billing. I'm not sure about PerlBill but I know ModernBill does handle rebilling.

MBill Admin
08-20-2002, 12:11 AM
Greetings,

We are ready to answer any questions. Please contact us via our ticketing system, if you have any specific questions about ModernBill.

www.modernbill.com/contact.php

We have been very busy with our New API that will allow for easy integration with gateways and server control software.

Sincerely,
ModernBill .:. Support Team

linnemeyer
08-21-2002, 09:06 PM
Thanks MBill

The problem I have with MBill is I am very picky about how the MBill interface will fit in with my site and I do not like the gray boxes that are on the interface. I know I can customize it by changing the colors, but can I have no color and a white background like Perlbill's order page and interface?

Another question .. does MBill have a support ticket system as one of its features like Perlbill or is just strictly for billing?

Any feedback is appreciated. Thanks.

phpcoder
08-21-2002, 09:57 PM
linnemeyer,

Yes it does. Thanks to geografx for correcting me :)

geografx
08-21-2002, 10:08 PM
The current version of modernbill has support for

Support Desk
Coupon Setup
Affiliate Setup
Banned Setup
TLD Setup
FAQ Setup

I haven't used it for anything other than the billing modules so far.

Barbara

cactus
08-22-2002, 12:00 AM
Originally prosted by ServerSonic
I was a tiny disappointed with they way that the last upgrade was released. The average user would not have been able to upgrade, they would have had to rebuild from scratch. Also the documentation on the scripts is poor. The forums are helpful but no replacement for a real guide to operation.

Yes it's really a nighmare configuring the settings as the users guide is very vague and was not of any help except for the installation guide.

I am almost 90% done and have some teething problems to sort out before rolling out the new version to replace the old one. I am holding on to my ver1.0 which was a breeze to install and configure and will only switch to the ver1.1.1 for clients when I am confident and have mastered using the new version throughly.

Fortunately, their support were excellent and that's really a relieve or I would have totally written off the ver1.1.1

webby
09-05-2002, 03:42 PM
i'll go with modernbill and authorize.net
modern bill support is excellent.

DJiMPaCT
09-05-2002, 08:22 PM
We have been using PHPmanager. It is ok.. nothing special. We just got modernbill installed today will see how that runs! Also looking forward to v4 :)

Everyday
09-05-2002, 11:05 PM
Are you using a control panel now? You might want to check out H Sphere from psoft. It has a complete billing manager included with the control panel. It is far better than any of these third party processors since it will not only bill your customers for the regular charges but also it will keep track and bill them for any overages and extras. Plus it includes a great support desk. Check it out at http://psoft.net. The billing and support systems are available to administrators as well as resellers.