This guy is a thief!

He ordered a "special" server from us last month but never got a penny from him!

We got him a server on the 26th of June. 2002. We set it up within hours of requested. He said that he will pay in 6 hours after setup. 6 HOURS... Never happen.

He promised to pay with Money order. He said he will sent via Courier Overnight. I waited 5 days. Nothing.
I asked for a tracking #, he said they do not have a tracking number in the UK (B.S)

Next, he said that he will Wire the money to our bank. He said it should take 24 hours. We waited 72 hours. Nothing.

He then said he will paypal the money. 15 days later. Nothing!

He's hidding somewhere on this forum because he have not answer our email.

Because this is a special server that we setup for him, we took a big lost.

Do not deal with this guy. Anyone have any experience with him, post it here. Let's make the community aware of this.

(I have all emails and PM's to backup this)

Good luck!

Is he based in Maine? (near Portland) Sorry ....the devil made me do it>>..

Hope you can get your money from him......
Sparrow

He's in the UK

His name is Ben

I'm from the UK, and I'm called Ben, although this certainly isn't me!

DynastyHost, if you know basic information about him, use 192.com to track him down.

hello DynastyHost
NNHOST did the same thing with us he ordered for 2 templates but never pay us.
This guy suck big time.

DynastyHost,
No offense, but that is why you need to require the client to send you the money before the server is setup, especially in the case of a money order. We charge all of our clients before their accounts are setup. If the client hasn't paid you for more than 5 days then that is a good indication that they will not pay you.

But it is a learning experience, and I'm sure that you won't make the same mistake twice.

-Steven

We always do that.
This was from a recommendation from one of our friend. big mistake.

Steve: we do accounts setup before money arrives in certain circumstances also, like when a contract is signed, phone numbers validated, etc.

It looks like i've got this guy on my network now, i will be evaluating my situation today i suppose and see what happens :crap:.

Porcupine...

What is his domain on your network?

Myles,
In the case of contracts and stuff like that it is fine to setup the account, because you have a legal leg to stand on in case of something like this. If not, then you will stuck with something like dynastyhost has.

Keep an eye on that account Myles.

-Steven

I've already got an eye on it.

Ironically enough, contracts are where we always get burned, we got burned by one "lavasoft" (the makers of ad-aware), and by one "jmr hosting", both were contract based, but unless you have the time and the legal ability to strike hard, theres not much point, it costs more then can be recovered.

Might have a no setup fee server opening up i guess :laugh:.

Hello,
I actually got an email from NNHost for a server. He bugs me consantly about when are we going to set it up. It looks as now that I won't have plans to set it up for him. I don't want to deal with fraud. He said set me the server up and then I will wire the money. It looks as that it will never happen and he just wants to ride free. He is like 17 or 18 I was told. It looks like I will remove his order...

I think he's 22

I'm still looking at other options to get my money. Anyone have any Idea?

Why would one proceed with setting up a server before any payment is provided?

The guys name is Simon?

Oh, you may want to file a complaint at the Internet Fraud Complaint Center: http://www1.ifccfbi.gov

This guy tried to get me to host with him, I helped him with a computer problem. I mean he was all over me. A little too much for like 3 bucks a month.

Another victim :-(

Originally posted by DynastyHost
This guy is a thief!

He ordered a "special" server from us last month but never got a penny from him!

We got him a server on the 26th of June. 2002. We set it up within hours of requested. He said that he will pay in 6 hours after setup. 6 HOURS... Never happen.

He promised to pay with Money order. He said he will sent via Courier Overnight. I waited 5 days. Nothing.
I asked for a tracking #, he said they do not have a tracking number in the UK (B.S)

Next, he said that he will Wire the money to our bank. He said it should take 24 hours. We waited 72 hours. Nothing.

He then said he will paypal the money. 15 days later. Nothing!

He's hidding somewhere on this forum because he have not answer our email.

Because this is a special server that we setup for him, we took a big lost.

Do not deal with this guy. Anyone have any experience with him, post it here. Let's make the community aware of this.

(I have all emails and PM's to backup this)

Good luck!

You got what you deserved! Sorry, this is nothing personal. WHY DO YOU GIVE A SERVER AWAY AND EVEN BUILD A SPECIAL ONE FOR HIM WITHOUT HAVING RECEIVED THE PAYMENT BEFORE?
I guess you don't even have his details.

Why are some of you rooted against the victim instead of the thief? That just seems odd to me...

Originally posted by porcupine
I've already got an eye on it.

Ironically enough, contracts are where we always get burned, we got burned by one "lavasoft" (the makers of ad-aware), and by one "jmr hosting", both were contract based, but unless you have the time and the legal ability to strike hard, theres not much point, it costs more then can be recovered.

Might have a no setup fee server opening up i guess :laugh:.

NNhost.co.uk is hosted by jmr hosting.. maybe both are the same?

Originally posted by microsol


You got what you deserved! Sorry, this is nothing personal. WHY DO YOU GIVE A SERVER AWAY AND EVEN BUILD A SPECIAL ONE FOR HIM WITHOUT HAVING RECEIVED THE PAYMENT BEFORE?
I guess you don't even have his details.

If you read my post, you will see that I got this guy from a recommendation from one of my peer.

We usually do not do this. This is the first. He was nice enough that we thought we can trust him. Also the fact that he was recommended by one of our friend.

We all make mistakes, but I hope you learned your lesson. Never ever trust anyone (not even yourself :D ).

We get burned by about 30% of the servers we setup before payment. Usually it's only done if theres spares, and we realise they really have a need for it. Theres nothing wrong with transactions based on good faith, and people do get burned on it, as we have before, and it appears will be again.

Should we not receive adaquate payment for this service, i will be contacting his ISP to verify information, then possibly turning his account over to a collections agency, I'd suggest others do likewise.

Hi
Just thought i would put my experience with Ben @ NNHost.

He ordered a custom PHP script a few months back and paid within a day via Nochex.com, But he recently asked for another script to be designed, which was completed to his satisfaction, he has told me he would pay 'tommorow morning' more than once now and he has ignored my emails.

His inbox must be full with all the complaints of payments due.

Anyway, good luck with getting your money back.

He currently uses an AOL account but also has an account with 0800dial.com 'for backup'. Hope that helps.

hmm , this isnt just one person , to the best of my knowledge this is at least two people involved in NNHost. One of whom is the 13 yr old who messed me around and ripped our site content under the guise of Crystal Designs or something similar. a quick search should show up the details. not sure on his partner at all but im led to believe hes older. srry i cant help more but i do have a little info that may help you on the 13yr old. if your going to persue legally then let me know. his parents might do something after a little trip to court :)

I have an adult site hosted by JMR Hosting. I haven't had the time to even use it, it's been sitting there collecting dust. If NNHost is part of JMR Hosting, should I worry? I already paid them for service that covered 3 months of this hosting package:

2GB Space
20GB Traffic
PHP, CGI, MySQL, etc etc..

Too good to be true? Or am I just paranoid?

Originally posted by Theater
I have an adult site hosted by JMR Hosting. I haven't had the time to even use it, it's been sitting there collecting dust. If NNHost is part of JMR Hosting, should I worry? I already paid them for service that covered 3 months of this hosting package:

2GB Space
20GB Traffic
PHP, CGI, MySQL, etc etc..

Too good to be true? Or am I just paranoid?

Depends on how much yoru paying for it.

I recommend you try to get your money back. Avoid them at all cost. JMR Hosting owns NNHost

Anyone have any other experience with them. Please post them here.

This is obviously no coincidence.

I refrained from posting on JMR hosting's lack of payment on his signed contract previously because i felt it would tarnish my reputation if i went airing dirty laundry around here.

In the case JMR hosting owns roadhost/nnhost, then they're extremely dishonest, and i would avoid them at all costs.

richy:
CrystalDesignz.co.uk was registered with us a while back, but the client (a Mr New-name-every-day) didnt pay the fee's and we suspended and eventually deleted his account. We still own the domain name though and we offered it to him at the time but he deceided to reject our offer and buy CryDez.co.uk instead.

If anyone knows if CrystalDesignz (also known as CryDez.co.uk) is NNHost I would be very interested to hear from them.

I have concluded my investigation and closed his account as appropriate. I've also contacted his current customers to inform them that their hosting provider is an outright theif and a fraud, but by the looks of it, he doesen't have any real clients (literally, 2-3 at best).

I also intend to call the ISP's he has used during his little adventure, and see if they can provide more information. If so, by the sounds of it, JMRhosting is the same as roadhost, and is the same as crydez.co.uk. If so, i have a signed contract that has been fulfilled on our end, but not paid by JMR hosting, and i will be turning this contract/account over to a collections agency.

Very disappointing to see a hosting provider thinks they can get away with crap like this.

NNhost is trying to use this credit card to pay

---conversation on AIM--
NNSupport: yes
NNSupport: I have them
NNSupport: if you give me 10mins
NNSupport: please
DynastySupport: ok
NNSupport: VISA Electron - **** **** **** 2017 - 10/03
NNSupport: Thats all the details.
DynastySupport: May I have the name on the card?
NNSupport: Miss H Watkins

----end-------

I was able to charge $1.00

Can anyone provide a link to his site for JMR Hosting?

Also, how long ago was your conversation with him DynastyHost? He owes me money but has been offline all day.

Last conversation online was a week ago.

Last PM on the 21st

Let's get together and bring this thief to justice!!

http://www.electricbluerhino.net is the registered owner of CryDez.net (which may or may not be connected to the .co.uk site) with the following address:

Registrant:
ElectricBlueRhino Hosting Company
11406 Primrose Ave.
Hesperia, CA 92345
United States

They seem to have an account with RackShack

Hello
I have the postal address of the registered owner of JMR INTERNET SERVICES, PM me if you would like it.

You mean it's related to CrystalDesign?

I am not sure, CrystalDesignz.co.uk is registered to us thanks to the staff at Nominet UK, But he moved to CryDez.co.uk when we took his domain from him, and CryDez.net is registered to the address above, so it could be him or it might be inosent party, but the site looks his quality of work.

This might be a tad off topic..but I felt it relevant....maybe if more of us used http://hostabuse.com/ , then maybe more of us wouldn't get burned the second , third and 4th times by the same thief ?

Just my .02 cents :cool:

Originally posted by barrywien
http://www.electricbluerhino.net is the registered owner of CryDez.net (which may or may not be connected to the .co.uk site) with the following address:

Registrant:
ElectricBlueRhino Hosting Company
11406 Primrose Ave.
Hesperia, CA 92345
United States

They seem to have an account with RackShack

I've seen that information before. Thats owned by chatcircuit. Chatcircuit has also been burned by this individual, I just spoke to them.

Hi
Everytime i try to speak to NNSupport via AIM, I get "Its not Ben, I will save messages for you"

Its beyond a joke now, he is just trying to get away from the fact that payment is due and he cant afford it - Even though its only £5 this time (approx $9!!)

And since the summer holidays have just started he is going to have a bad holiday if this thread gets any longer,...and if his ISP throws him off it would be a boring old summer with traditional british weather to look forward to for him. Justice is sooo sweet...:blush:

I got the same thing.
He always said "it's not ben"... he's out buying food... LOL

This is is girl friend.

Yeah,..I personally think that cover up story is crap, he could of at least made his excuse original.

Who lets there girlfriend on there computer thats for business? Who lets there girlfriend on there Support account on AIM, and who lets there girlfriend 'chat to friends' on someone elses account. I know I definatly don't.

I have contacted his ISP with details relating to this abuse/fraud/non-payment.

I encourage everyone else to email whoever he used when he signed up for your services (you do log that right? :D), and email them information, logs of any form, communications, etc.

The abuse address i got for the ISP he used when he signed up for us was: vipabuse@icl.net

This is turning out to be interesting, threads such as this (where hosts collaborate and attack such individuals) may lead to such individuals being afraid of WHT, who knows.

I'm sending in ...

Please do so!!

We too have an outstanding balance from NNhost, and are considering a collection agency to recover the balance.

I would just like to state, that as we control the following domains:

crydez.co.uk
roadhost.co.uk

We have no part in any activities by the previous owner and all domains accounts have been closed.

Whilst we cannot openly divulge information regarding this client we can assist in other ways, please contact me if there is anything we can do to assist in company's reclaiming any monies owed.

Chris Hopley

Hostone Services UK
accounts@mail-hostone.co.uk

Originally posted by NightHawk
This might be a tad off topic..but I felt it relevant....maybe if more of us used http://hostabuse.com/ , then maybe more of us wouldn't get burned the second , third and 4th times by the same thief ?

Just my .02 cents :cool:

I signed up for this service, but have never been able to log in. I know others have the same problem. Contacting them does nothing.. what good is that?

yeah h watkins is his mums card. his first name begins with J might also have an o h and s in there somewhere but im not sure on that ;). id contact aol as they will have more details. just sell the debt to a collection agency over here. then sit back and smile. i'd also like to take a quick moment to say thank you to chris from hostone for his actions before. hes very helpful in these matters.
this is just an unfortunate case of someone who doesnt learn and hasnt a clue about the business and how to conduct himself.

Originally posted by Haze


I signed up for this service, but have never been able to log in. I know others have the same problem. Contacting them does nothing.. what good is that?

Drop them a line and refresh their memory about your application. www.hostabuse.com could be a very useful tool if it was widely enough used, but unfortunately many seem to have problems getting access. We had to send a reminder, but we got there.

Regards

Gary

I feel more for the victims i.e clients who get involved with such individuals, we as providers take a certain risk when allowing resellers/dedicated clients into our services

It just highlights a greater need for sites like hostabuse or some way to regulate hosting services as a whole (God knows how)

Chris Hopley

Hostone Services UK
accounts@mail-hostone.co.uk

We've just added the hostabuse.com sub-routine to a billing system we're building, and entered a new client with a domain we know is on hostabuse.com, and hey presto:

HostAbuse.com Response: WARNING: Domain found in HostAbuse.com!

Good stuff.

Gary

Hi
If this site isnt fully moderated how do we know every client that has been added is actually beening added??

I signed up about 6 hours ago, I have heard nothing back as yet. If I was to add a domain would they have to moderate it before adding it to the database? If so that could be 6 hours behind.

Anyway, I think the concept is a good idea and it will be a site I will be bookmarking for future use.

It's a good start...put it that way. It's not mdoerated as far as I can tell, but there's instructions on the Add Entry page that the listing must relate to a TOS violation, an unpaid invoice or a fraudulent charge. I guess it is up to *us* how valid and useful we keep the database.

If we took on a domain that was listed, we'd then have the opportunity to at least contact the previous host and ask for more information. I can feel the love already... :)

Gary

I just wanna ask have anyone got any info on this thief yet? any response from him lately?

just for the americans , this guy is a brit and you have his mothers initial and you may even have the correct town he lives in. a little visit to www.192.com and a free search or two may yield some contact details. hope this helps some. just ring up and ask if mrs H watkins is there and if she is the parent or guardian of j watkins, if so explain the situation and let it hit the fan :)

I did a search on 192.com but there are over 200 matches for Miss H Watkins
Anyone nkow how to narrow that down?

did you try specifying a smaller area?

I do not have enough information to do that.

NNSupport: Hi
dreamdezign: Hiya
NNSupport: did u speak to him
dreamdezign: i think i will go with you:-)
dreamdezign: Deal@
NNSupport: ok :-)
NNSupport: www.izijafam.co.uk/custom.php
NNSupport: new product
NNSupport: tell me what u think
dreamdezign: checking
NNSupport: try it out :-)
dreamdezign: sure:-)
dreamdezign: hey whats that system use for?
NNSupport: Custom plan
NNSupport: for hosting
NNSupport: which system?
dreamdezign: ohh never mind am checking :-)
dreamdezign: how much shall i type in webspace 10 gb?
NNSupport: any
NNSupport: no its just a demo
NNSupport: for you
NNSupport: lol
dreamdezign: ohh..lol
dreamdezign: nice nice:-) hey nnhost i will give that template and edit every thing for you but dont activate my account and domains until i dont confirm with you caz we have to design the temlae first for our new hosting company :-)
NNSupport signed off at 2:59:56 AM.
NNSupport signed on at 3:00:01 AM.
dreamdezign: ok i am ready to complete this deal so when do you need the template?
NNSupport: now
NNSupport: lol
dreamdezign: weee...
dreamdezign: we have to edit for you the names link etc:-)
NNSupport: ok
NNSupport: or give me psd
NNSupport: and i can do it
NNSupport: lol
dreamdezign: but one thing i dont want u to activate my 10 gb resel account now so as my 2 domains.caz we have to make a website for our new hosting company
NNSupport: no probs
NNSupport: when ur ready
dreamdezign: so from the date you activate i will note down that date.and on next year the same date you have fully rights to expire it.
NNSupport: i wont expire it
NNSupport: we will come up with some sort of deal
dreamdezign: sounds good.
dreamdezign: ok i will send you the psd files tommorow or after tommorow for sure ok?
NNSupport: why not today :-(
NNSupport: i need HTML, PSD, Fonts, and GIFs/Jpgs for html
dreamdezign: you will get every single file:-) but not today man.caz those files are with my partner
NNSupport: ok
NNSupport: lol
dreamdezign: alright:-)
dreamdezign: just to tell you that i havent recieve the money order yet.
dreamdezign: the one u sent me.
NNSupport: ok
dreamdezign: can u just check it out whats really going on.in that sucky post office.its your second time sending me the money order but they dont deliver to me.
NNSupport: ok
NNSupport: its 10:14pm
NNSupport: lol
dreamdezign: na i mean tommorrow:-)
NNSupport: hehe ok
NNSupport: hmm
NNSupport: if i offered you our plan, with 12gb space
NNSupport: would u get me the template within 5hours?
NNSupport: jjust psd/fonts
dreamdezign: oh man :-) i really cant caz its 4 am here and i cant call him now how about to send you after 8 hours?
NNSupport: ok
NNSupport: deal
dreamdezign: thats great.
NNSupport: 6hours and make it 15gb webspace
dreamdezign: woohoo. :-) i will try my best.
NNSupport: ok
NNSupport: promise within 8hours?
dreamdezign: after 8 hours it will be 12 am here..so am gonna wake at 11:30 and then i will call my partner to send me the files so at 12 am you will get the psd files etc..just hope that i will awake at 11..lol
NNSupport: oklol
NNSupport: roadhost@0800dial.com
dreamdezign: yep already have:-)
NNSupport: yup
dreamdezign: hey ma partner is online now am talking to him.;-)
NNSupport: nice one
dreamdezign: 15 GB webspace right?
NNSupport: yep
dreamdezign: ok good. am gonna ask if he gota html version too.
NNSupport: no need
NNSupport: but would be good
NNSupport: i need ALL Fonts
NNSupport: and everything like psds
NNSupport: in zip
NNSupport: ifi go off
NNSupport: send in email as attachment please
NNSupport: or send me uploaded link
dreamdezign: can u send me mail at sales@triplesoft.net mentioning this offer 15 GB SPACE,BANDWIDTH,2DOMAIN,FOR 1 YEAR? just for the future reference.
NNSupport: sent
dreamdezign: ok thanks am gonna check it now.
NNSupport: ok
--------------------
this was the second offer which he offer me in exchange of template
and the first 1 was cash offer.
i hope this log will help you guys to get him down.

http://www.192.com/search.cfm?action=585A56505A4658565C0C5D5745585B5D4A6D544B14425C5145505D5F04425456425D5C14624D53434D605E4E0F001F7F5041605E4E410C0802174E5A5E0465706D79 787761175A5A545A59545D6D465157435C0F001F51595C515A4E5A544B570C08144556455F047F787777797C7375

Originally posted by Haze


I signed up for this service, but have never been able to log in. I know others have the same problem. Contacting them does nothing.. what good is that?

Yeah, I had to bug them twice about getting my account validated, but I have since added them to my signup script. I actually had thier subroutine changed so that it is php and runs faster...if anyone is interested...let me know...I can email you a copy of it.

And to the other comments later...I agree..this hostabuse.com system isnt' perfect...but it is a great place to start. I don't take everything I see in there as 100% golden...but if/when I get a hit in that database about a new signup..I do alot more checking before activating thier account.

I designed a template for one of the people was told payemnt was on it's way 3 times, never came.

I went into an chat room on AOL. I mentioned one of his aliases at least 2 people who were there said they remmembered him and that he owed them money for various things.

Ben

Wow... I guess I'm glad that I brought this forward. Why didnt' anyone bring this up ??

It has been bought up before but up under another name crydez, i think thats where there were a load of angry people (myself for one)

Ben

He orders a reseller package from us for 100/month. He said someone from his business was sending the money to us within the next week. 3 weeks later, no payment. He also continuously bothered me asking if we needed a template. I always said no as his prices were through the roof. Well anyways a just canceled his account so no more worries for us.

Originally posted by Rob_AcuNett
He orders a reseller package from us for 100/month. He said someone from his business was sending the money to us within the next week. 3 weeks later, no payment. He also continuously bothered me asking if we needed a template. I always said no as his prices were through the roof. Well anyways a just canceled his account so no more worries for us.

He's been doing that to us too! that really lame quote php script he created (like a 10 minute job, calculate the value of a plan determined by how much space/bandwidth/etc. a client wants and quote their plan), and he's been trying to push that on us for weeks. It's not like any monkey couldn't create the identical thing, it did nothing more then spit out numbers using basic math.

Hi porcupine
I actually created that script for him, thats the one time he actually paid me for something.

If he has offered this script to anyone please let me know as he does not have the rights to reseller the script. PM me porcupine with the price he was trying to flog it for please.

Originally posted by barrywien
Hi porcupine
I actually created that script for him, thats the one time he actually paid me for something.

If he has offered this script to anyone please let me know as he does not have the rights to reseller the script. PM me porcupine with the price he was trying to flog it for please.

No need, ask around though, i know he's been asking other people too. He claims he just finished it, i told him any half-wit could write a script like that for free, or copy the concept in 10 minutes just by looking at the first.

I know i'm not the only one whose been offered this, start a thread, ask around, etc.

he was trying to get me to find him a script , im glad i didnt have one after reading this because i doubt i would have been paid, he was also looking for a template

I'm starting to get the feeling he scams merchandise off other people then sells them, like templates, scripts, etc. Cuz he certainly seems to scam/get a lot of them and not pay, but they dont show up anywhere (or do they?).

Does anyone know what can be done about all of the issues made by everyone in this thread. It isnt really getting us anywhere, although the more complaints the better the case but does any one know what can be done to stop him trading on the net? I beleive his ISP have the power to blacklist him with the top majour ISP's

hes young n dumb and thinks he can rip people off and hide behind his age and a string on false identities. if any host has his details but no grude could offer to forward a summons onto the little **** then theres some people would be greatful i would imagine. i think theres one among us who does have a legit contact address.

--barry get onto aol and find out his details or at least see how much they will help. im sure they will to an extent. the alternative is their records being required by law.

As I have stated in my earlier post, whilst we cannot openly divulge client information, there may be other ways we can assist companies in reclaiming any monies owed.

Chris Hopley

Hostone Services UK
accounts@mail-hostone.co.uk

Originally posted by Fanturex
As I have stated in my earlier post, whilst we cannot openly divulge client information, there may be other ways we can assist companies in reclaiming any monies owed.

Chris Hopley

Hostone Services UK
accounts@mail-hostone.co.uk

I'd be thrilled to know how, as he has an outstanding account with us now thats not been cancelled due to this thread, the apparent lies, and the clearly stated policy of our AUP/TOS in relation to non-payment.

What exactly can you do? Because i'd love to cut some losses.

Right I would like to set some points straight here. As i have only just been notified of this thread (an unlike other hosts i dont search for my company name as we have nothing to hide)

NNhost ordered a server from us. They didnt pay the full amount and part of the deal was to inc the domain name www.nnhost.co.uk

As we was aware of their previous activities we took the precaution of registering the domain in our name - When full payment was not recieved for the server then the domain was and still is being withheld. Whilst i would dearly love to get rid of the domain for the very reason that this little boy is getting into all kinds of trouble - I will not release it to him so that he can use it to dupe even more hosts and individuals.

So to get it straight and now read this very carefully

JMR HOSTING or JMR INTERNET SERVICES does not OWN nor is it act on or behalf of NNHOST.

Is that quite clear now? ....so for those of you that have got our company address (heh never heard from any of you by the way)

Id really recommed that some of you ask the company in question BEFORE you go and get down and dirty and blame them for it. We have never done the dirty on anyone at anytime and if anyone wants to get in touch with us - YES our company address is freely available. In fact here it is again

16 St Martins Place, Brighton, East Sussex, UK. BN2 3LE

As required by UK LAW.

As for you PORCUPINE - Excuse me Myles. We did not burn you. We ordered a server with you contracted where you stated that you could install Webcp. Which you could not and neither could any of your techs- which you then said oh why dont you have a go at it and until and the contract does not take effect.

Then you dropped the IP's to the server - we didnt hear from you for 2 days. Then your apc was not available and to wrap it all off we could not get webcp to install or plesk to install on the server which was probably due to your attempts to install it in the first place.

After this when you finally gave us a fresh server and we installed plesk on to it we thought that the contract would start from them. However you decided that it wouldnt. So we cancelled as we thought this was a bit off. We agreed on this - funny how all of a sudden that you decide to go back on the agreement that the contract was cancelled amicably.

So who was in breach of the contract here?

Before you go trying to burn my company Myles you should most definetely watch your posts here as for one im not going to sit back and watch you cause problems for my company.

If you want to meet us in a legal battle over the issue we had with the server then get your solicitor to send it to us. We can match you all the way....and we will most definitely get you to pay our costs when we get you for not being capable to meet your contract.

As for anyone else that has posted ANY remarks that JMR HOSTING or JMR INTERNET SERVICES are a bad host with regards to the activities to NNHOST then you best get back to them websites and remove them , amend them appropriately.

As stated IF YOU HAD ASKED THEN YOU WOULD HAVE FOUND OUT THE TRUTH

You don't have to be rude about it all. :eek:

I think your reply was quite agressive and rude. Instead of attacking the victims here why dont you try and help them/us in dealing with NNHost. The domain was under your name, and you gave no explanation for weeks, what do you expect people to think? :rolleyes:

Regards
Ben

I was not attacking the victims here. I was just protecting my company which came under fire from other companies that put 2+2 together and get 100. Im not attacking the victims im attacking the companies that should really know better than to accuse before asking. No one asked us about this matter and we do not search the forums on posts about our company as we dont have to.

I can provide details on NNhost should anyone require them.

As for the victims of NNhost i do sympathise with you.

JMR: Maybe you should go back and look at the wording of that contract, i'd have to find mine to be precisely sure, but it basically said we would install "webmin and/or web.cp" if im not mistaken. Webmin was installed, and we made every reasonable attempt to install web.cp on your server. You were also provided, as you state, a second server after web.cp would not install (the web.cp software was found to be incomplete (it's beta, not my responsibility, we do not develop software), and were unable to install plesk).

We "let this one go" because it's not worth the trouble of pursue'ing such things as the legal fee's and reputation damage would far outweigh the return on such.

I'll go find my copy of the contract to make sure i'm not mistaken, but i do believe thats how it was worded, and no, of course we were not going to give you another 2 weeks of free service, dont be rediculous, thats exactly what this nnhost guy was trying to pull (in a different light maybe), but never extend a deadline of such sorts on an account which has never been billed before.

I think if you could provide some information about them, alot of people here, who would like to take legal action against them, would be gratefull.

Regards
Ben

BTW, i'd just like to add JMR, your name hasn't come up before, and i had no intention of bringing it up until people made some form of what it appears to be false connection between yourself and nnhost (i got many many many emails, private messages, etc. when i started asking around), and if you read up, im sure you'll notice many of us thought yuo were the same person. This is my mistake i'll admit that much :).

I dont know what the forum rules or legal implications are on posting their personal details here publicly. Also dont know if this would make any legal action void. I can provide a name and address should anyone require it although i cannot be 100 % certain that it is valid.

Well I did get my money back, but it wasn't because I didn't trust JMR Hosting! It's just that I got so caught up with personal life issues, I never had time to use the service really at all.

When I requested a refund I almost immediately got a response back from their support. They were very kind and reasonable about the issue. No questions asked even though I was just entering my final month of my 3 month hosting contract. They just informed me that they issued the refund, and even gave me more money then I was due to offset the PayPAL fees since I used PayPAL to signup.

In fact, I just noticed I got another e-mail back from support offering me free hosting in exchange for 1 banner ad until I can get back on my feet and can go back to paid hosting. I've been with many hosts before, I'll admit that right here and now. But JMR has been the best host as far as support speed and customer care that my site has ever had. I will gladly go back to their paid hosting when I'm ready to upgrade my service.

They didn't ask me to post all this nice stuff here, I hardly ever post on these forums. I just wanted to let the few people who have read this far know that JMR Hosting is not a bad company at all!

hey Son,

is this the one we talked last time?

he did it to be he asked me for a template for roadhost.co.uk i neve rgot a penny

Just to advise that both domains:

crydez.co.uk & roadhost.co.uk have been purchased by the third parties and have nothing to do with nnhost or whatever he is calling himself now a days.

This is just a simple note that if either company posts on this forum, that they are new but aware of the reputation and stigma that may be attached to the domains.

Hope that makes sense!!!!!!!!!!!

Many Thanks

Chris Hopley

accounts@mail-hostone.co.uk

NNHost ordered a server from us and kept asking me about thes erver good thing we didn't set it up.. :rolleyes:

Ow well, what a surprise. he is selling again.

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=445676#post445676

But this is a real giveaway this time, as he states NOT to reply. and to contact him DIRECT !

NOW IS YOUR TIME TO CATCH HIM !!

Goog luck all

I went to hostabuse.com and get nothing but a coming soon page. This could be a great service. Any word on it??