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View Full Version : WHT with no advertisements
YouHostMe[Julie] 07-04-2007, 09:16 PM Hi.
I know WHT have to earn their server costs and wages somewhere, which is where ads come into it, but my suggestion is to remove ads for premium members only, because by becoming premium the user has already contributed to the site, so i think it is only fair they dont see the ads, maybe one at the top but not all of them
The reason i think this would benefit everyone is simple, with no ads to load for the premium members it would give them a better experience here, (I.E faster loading etc) and i think more people would go premium if that was available, OR give the premium users an option to view the ads or not, in their profile or something (yes it could be done)
I know if there was no ads for premium users i would go premium without another blink
~ Just my suggestion to help to community :)
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BTW it was stuck like this for about 3 minutes (look at the pic)
http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/2942/sitedraggerag3.png
Nick H 07-04-2007, 09:18 PM Agreed 100% :agree:
Aussie Bob 07-04-2007, 10:45 PM Now I would pay a membership for a no ad WHT, without using ad blocking software, which I don't use.
The Premium offer was always weak, but adding a no ad option, as a feature to a pretty much featureless Premium package, would IMO be of great benefit.
sgarbus 07-04-2007, 11:27 PM This has been discussed when Premium was re-released, however it is an excellent idea.
They'd still be making good money from the thousands of users that aren't Premium, and they'd be bringing in some nice cash from the Premium users as well.
Not to mention -- I took a peak at the Premium forum list the other day, there doesn't seem to be much activity. It was the same way with the old Premium memberships, before they "revamped" it. Perhaps something like this would be the spark that it desperately needs.
IGobyTerry 07-04-2007, 11:54 PM I would suspect that in one year, WHT makes more than $49.99 per user from our browsing. As such, they'd need to raise the premium membership costs to support the loss in ad revenue.
The Dude 07-05-2007, 12:48 AM Maybe its not as easy as you all think to hide the ads from only a certain user group or im sure they would have done it by now!! (I think staff even see's the ads)
They arent really a big deal.........
Aussie Bob 07-05-2007, 01:36 AM No ads should have been the crowning feature in the Premium offer. Now there's something of real value to paid up members.
eming 07-05-2007, 03:07 AM from time to time I actually find stuff I'd like to buy from those ads.
Taking them away would mean I'd never become a premium member.
It should be an option in the profile settings.
:)
The Dude 07-05-2007, 03:20 AM No ads should have been the crowning feature in the Premium offer.Like i said it isnt that easy to restrict the showing of the ads to that 1 group (Premium) the whole ad system would have to be re-written.. On other site S/W i have seen where ads are blocked for PAID MEMBERS,but that s/w is written totally by the admin i believe and he can control stuff better (DSLREPORTS)
The ads dont bother me @ all here.....
Aussie Bob 07-05-2007, 03:23 AM . . . It should be an option in the profile settings.
Absolutely, yes. :)
Kimmikat 07-05-2007, 03:42 AM True, although maybe have a 2nd level that could give an add free skin to the premies. The idea other then that has been tossed around. Maybe it is something that could boost the Premie level sales though and save complaints about the "Ad Juggler" not doing it's juggling...
I would suspect that in one year, WHT makes more than $49.99 per user from our browsing. As such, they'd need to raise the premium membership costs to support the loss in ad revenue.
RossMAN 07-05-2007, 03:47 AM Now I would pay a membership for a no ad WHT, without using ad blocking software, which I don't use.
If they offered this, I would sign up in a heart beat.
The Dude 07-05-2007, 03:53 AM True, although maybe have a 2nd level that could give an add free skin to the premiesThat may be very possible Kimmi and w/o having to re-write anything :)
I actually like to see the ads so I can get an idea of what's going on, who's doing what, etc. If you meet someone in person that runs a business that is advertising, you can say something like, "Your business has been advertising on WHT and in PingZine for a while now, right?"
I don't think the ads have ever bothered me and I generally like to see what other businesses are doing.
I actually like to see the ads so I can get an idea of what's going on, who's doing what, etc. If you meet someone in person that runs a business that is advertising, you can say something like, "Your business has been advertising on WHT and in PingZine for a while now, right?"
I don't think the ads have ever bothered me and I generally like to see what other businesses are doing.
What if users had an option to turn on, or turn off the display of ads?
Clayton 07-05-2007, 05:51 AM I think they should put this into effect, the premium members don't really get anything out of donating in my opinion :/
Jamson 07-05-2007, 06:31 AM I like the ads, for exactly the same reasons as Anky to be honest.
I only don't like the ads when they (strangely enough) place the large side ads on the top.
jtodd 07-05-2007, 06:34 AM The WHT ads aren't obtrusive and with the sole exception of the very slow loading of the ad server at times, I like the ads. Sometimes there are some good deals going there and it helps you understand what's going on in a way.
YouHostMe[Julie] 07-05-2007, 07:22 AM But to be honest most of it is just other hosts advertising, which for me is useless to me, because i dont need hosting lol,
To remove ads is not hard, i wrote a script to remove ads for donators on one of my sites, and it was not hard in the slightest, it took me about 10 minutes to write it and get it into action, and a hell of a lot more people become sponsors when they knew they would not see the ads
If not make it ad free for premium at least give them an option to remove them, or to change to a theme where there are no ads, now that would be more simple to do :)
tracphil 07-05-2007, 07:27 AM As much as I like the idea, Premium members make ad impressions just like everyone else and I do not see them taking away anything that is going to dilute them... even a 90 second rule that discourages posting.
Aussie Bob 07-05-2007, 08:55 AM What if users had an option to turn on, or turn off the display of ads?
Bingo. Yep.
ThatScriptGuy 07-05-2007, 12:22 PM Like i said it isnt that easy to restrict the showing of the ads to that 1 group (Premium) the whole ad system would have to be re-written.. On other site S/W i have seen where ads are blocked for PAID MEMBERS,but that s/w is written totally by the admin i believe and he can control stuff better (DSLREPORTS)
The ads dont bother me @ all here.....
You've obviously never worked with vbulletin before. It's a simple matter of editing the template wherever the ad code is placed and wrapping the ad code with a conditional that says (pseudo-code)
If user_group_number != [premium_group_number] then show ad code End If
If WHT were to implement this by taking away the ads for premium members or taking away the ads for any other certain usergroup, it really is a 2 minute fix...
ldcdc 07-05-2007, 01:24 PM I would suspect that in one year, WHT makes more than $49.99 per user from our browsing. As such, they'd need to raise the premium membership costs to support the loss in ad revenue.That was my first thought as well, especially as it is the more active users who would be interested in this kind of feature. Then again, most of them might already be using ad blockers.
avocado 07-05-2007, 02:47 PM I agree that a no-ads version would be a reason to go Premium.
Another thing that might help would be to provide less-intrusive ads (static images, text ads, whatever).
I'd love to support WHT, but the big Flash ads peg my CPU (Firefox 2, WinXP, FWIW), so I have no choice but to block them (or not use WHT at all).
SoftWareRevue 07-05-2007, 03:15 PM It always amazes me that those that seem to scream the loudest about ads on this site, have the loudest ads in their signature.
Not that there's anything wrong with ads in signatures. I just find it ironic that anyone with an ad for a signature complains that they have to view other ads.
Sometimes I just think out loud. :blush:
YouHostMe[Julie] 07-05-2007, 03:22 PM It always amazes me that those that seem to scream the loudest about ads on this site, have the loudest ads in their signature.
Not that there's anything wrong with ads in signatures. I just find it ironic that anyone with an ad for a signature complains that they have to view other ads.
Sometimes I just think out loud. :blush:
Yes but ads in a sig doesnt really slow down the sites load time really lol, because you done the smart thing to disable image linking in the BB code, so people can only put text there, as i said i know ads bring in the site revenue but so do donators/premium members,
Personally I have took the adblock plus advice and installed it, now i only see text ads, and the site now loads in around 3 seconds flat for me, 5 minutes ago while im typing the computer was about 7 words behind me with the typing, because of ads, now its so quick it knows what i am going to say 7 words before i say it hehe (joke :P)
BTW Would you say my new signature is loud hehe :P
Aussie Bob 07-05-2007, 07:57 PM The thing is, sigs can be disabled from user profiles, when the multiple banners cannot. Options are good. If you want to see sigs, set that option. If you don't want to see ads, there's an option for that too . . . or there could be. :)
ServerNinja 07-06-2007, 02:08 AM I like to see banner ads on the page which makes WHT more cute, something like a lady wearing ornaments :love:
YouHostMe[Julie] 07-06-2007, 07:39 AM My banner is coming on here soon but i still dont like them lol ($115/15000 impressions, bargain :P)
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BTW it was stuck like this for about 3 minutes (look at the pic)
http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/2942/sitedraggerag3.png
I know, thats what really kills me.
If there's going to be ads at least have them load quickly! :D
GPearce 07-15-2007, 12:23 PM Agreed, it takes ages this end too..
I would buy premium if it got rid of the ads for me =D
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