Does anyone know where donhost got there control pannel from? or did they hire programmers to make it for them?.

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I think Daniel himself wrote it.

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thats why it sucks! Too limited.. so why u want to know about the stone-age cp?

mk123: what do you think Daniel's cp is missing? To me, it's on of the best control panels I've had a chance to use. It's extremely fast, reliable and does pretty much all you need...

It looks very basic, but it looks like it can get the job done. ;)

yeah true, its very very basic. (I'm talking about their W2K panel only which i have chance to tolerate)
Because some basic things also it cannot handle like forwarding to external mailbox(like hotmail, yahoo) plus internal mailbox at the same time.

Many people have many domains, and try to forward important emails to one mailbox so they have to check mainly one account for any emails for any domain. If get emails for any domain, then they can open mailbox of the particilar domain and reply.
No need to open mailbox of every domain like crazy. :mad:

And when you are visiting different city, have to check emails at Internet cafe. Arghh!!

Many people give file permission option also which also is very basic.
I'm not talking of great features which other's have.
If you use it, you know it :)

You've spent the time going through each Donhost post flaming their control panel...because it doesn't send email to an internal and external mailbox at once?

It has a catch-all mailbox feature, which is what I presume your second paragraph is about. It's not difficult to install a webmail client, so that's your travelling problem sorted. File permissions...I'm not sure what you mean there but read the manual for your FTP program.

It is by far the best control panel out there.

Cheers

Gary

Hi Editor, your presumption is wrong.

I have seen at least 5 types of Cpanels and all (except donhost) have the facility of forwarding to internal and external mailboxes.

Suppose your domains have emailids, info@abc.com, support@abc.com and info@xyz.com (lets take just 3 emailids for example)
I have a main emailid which i check for any emails from these emailid's for example mymail@yahoo.com
My all emails are stored in the respective boxes and fwd. to yahoo id also which i check frequently. If i get any email i open the respective mailbox and reply from there.

Can you do this in Donhost CP?

Catchall is not a solution.. i can catchall ayy to my yahooid. and then reply from yahoo?? (not good idea)
So i have to copy paste the email if i want to reply from support@abc.com (as its not stored in case catchall) (good idea?)

I hope you got the picture what i'm talking about.

Install a webmail client, yes thats also not present in Donhost CP
hmm.. so i find a Webmail client and install in all Resold accounts.
And using the Webmail clients i juggle between the three emailid's mentioned above??

Why cannot i check my yahooid in lesser time and leave Internetcafe without paying much?
Makes sense?

Thanks:)

I can see Editors point. The CP can't be generally limited as you implied, if your reasons are only two or three specific things you mentioned. Those features are quite small when compared to the average size of a whole CP.

Perhaps its just an example? I've never really seen/used it myself. What else is it missing that is making it so generally limited?

Originally posted by mk123
[B]I hope you got the picture what i'm talking about.

I said up above, that sure it can't forward email to multiple addresses. You can set up normal forwarders from one alias to one address, or it has a multiple recipient address feature...but this is only capable of forwarding to qualified POP3 mailboxes on the domain. Why? The reason I got when I first asked about that (November 2000) was so that it can't be used for sending bulk email to those who may not want to receive it (read: spam). Fair enough...it's their CP.

What I don't understand is why you have trawled through every Donhost thread you can find (some three weeks old) flaming what is really a good control panel.

Cheers

Gary

I think the same reason as you Editor.

Since my customers complain after getting the Donhost cp maybe after they have used other CP's. And i also tried it and found limiting.
The explanation from them: It'll be done/planned in next upgrade of their CP. But no commitments on when the next upgrade will be.
So i can't get your view of SPAM thing.

Why i say same reason because you due to whatever reasons make it a point to reply / give your feedback that its the best.

So i am also free to give my opinion right?

Mate, you'll have to excuse me but I am having some trouble understanding your posts. But in regards to "So i am also free to give my opinion right?"...definitely. As am I.

The comment about "spam" was in reference to the MRA in the Donhost CP not allowing external email addresses to be added. I can see the logic behind it, but it is probably an outdated concept now. There are far more effective ways of monitoring that.

Cheers

Gary

The reason was for your question"....flaming what is really a good control panel" I said as you are giving your opinion.... i'm also giving my opinion.

but it is probably an outdated concept now.

Are you agreeing to the fact that Donhost Cp is running on outdated concept till now?

No, that expecting that a site owner will sit there and plug in 100's of addresses into the control panel mailing list function is.

Cheers

Gary

Mailing List?? i think Donhost CP don't have this feature also?

Anyway those who favour Donhost cp acn vote for it in the thread in Resellers Forum.

Have nice day!

Originally posted by mk123
Mailing List?? i think Donhost CP don't have this feature also?

That's what the MRA is mate. Multiple Recipient Address. That's what you could use to have a username forward email to an internal *and* an external email address...*if* they allowed it.

Cheers

Gary

MRA (*and* portion still not there) a Mailing List ?? :o

c'mon ppl.. come out and see the world where its going..

One thread for your info, where the Poster had mentioned a little bit about Mailing List,
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=63093&highlight=mailing+list

just read the portion of Mailing List
But I want the package to have a Good Mailing List Management Program pre-installed with all the features (online subscribe/unsubscrive, Archive, Approving, Users Management, E-Mails list cleaning, Support atachments, etc).
Anyway you can find more about Mailing List if you search the Internet.

Thanks:)

Originally posted by mk123
MRA (*and* portion still not there) a Mailing List ??

Of sorts...yes. What else would you call it?

It's very similar to the Mailgroup function of even the latest version of Plesk. And with both, if you want something more elaborate you are free to make use of a fully blown mailing list system.

Do you get the feeling we are going around in circles here? :)

Cheers

Gary

btw guys.. since Donhost cp don't have Webmail, and you people must be installing for clients etc.
Can you suggest some nice, Free :D , email clients which work on W2K servers?
I got 2 but for one the interface is very basic, clients will not like it.
The second one works fine for normal POP emails but for Donhost ids its refusing (username-emailid). I can tweak it though but time factor is there.

Any ready made, Free solution?

Thanks:)

well its nothig near to Mailing list

so better call it same what Doshost ppl call it (MRA)

Well one thing good about Editor is this way or that he's trying to support Donhost... now he's comparing with Mailgroup function of Plesk. Plesk don't have Mailing List function? why not compare with it since you were saying MRA is Mailing List.

Circles yes, what to do seems we're poles apart.. though physically not very far :)

Is it just me...I really don't know how to explain it any better. The MRA facility is a mailing list. You send mail to the target address, and it in turn send that off to the target recipients. Plesk has the same thing, and they call it a Mailgroup. One allows external addresses (not based on the same domain) and one doesn't. But they're still mailing lists.

Or are we actually in agreeance and I am misunderstanding your posts?

Cheers

Gary

I don't think Donhost's MRA has the features as mentioned in the post i quoted above.

I'd say MRA is extention to Donhost's Forwarding feature.
In Donhost MRA you can forward to multiple internal emailboxes, whereas Donhost Forwarding forwards to only one internal mailbox.

So the MRA is not anything near to 'Mailing List', MRA maybe (because i've not used Plesk) similar to MailGroup function.
or maybe similar to some MailX function of myHomeMadePanel.
There can be end no. of comparisons with some other programs/functions, but i was talking about Mailing List.

http://searchvb.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid8_gci212515,00.html
http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/mailman.html

Or are we actually in agreeance
I don't know.... I say :uzi: Donhost Cp sucks... do you agree?

No, I don't. :)

Gary

Thanks Gary for the straight answer.:)

Btw for you die-hard fans of Donhost, i saw one post which may interest you :)

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=63297

have nice day/night ;)

Heh, I don't think you'll find many fans of Donhost here. :D I personally beleive the cp is one of the best available, while their business practice is/was one of the worst...

But, Daniel might change in the future... or has already :cartman: I've haven't had anything to do with him for almost a year now, so don't know how he plays the game now...

btw, you've obviously stumbled on the certain downsides of the Donhost's cp... it's not perfect, that's true...

Ales

NO, it looks like a very simple CP to everyone, but you haven't taken a look at the source code really. And that CP works with UNIX and Windows. It is really hard to get it to work with two different operating systems! Besides, that control panel can control all the servers. That means you can add user accounts on different servers. Get it?

I don't have a CPANEL license, but from the looks of it and the demo I tried, I don't think it can do that!

And yep, that CP is written by Dan Dan! :)

Originally posted by mk123
thats why it sucks! Too limited.. so why u want to know about the stone-age cp? I really think that we should ban all posts that contain the verb "suck" because they are rarely constructive ones...:rolleyes:

YUPAPA.. these days Customer is the king!. We cannot explain to customers that in Donhost Cp the coding is good or its great because it can support both the servers.

You're talking about CPanel, i'm sure 101% of the customers who have used CPanel will not even want to look at Donhost Cp. As those are the persons i'm getting most complains from.

One of my Reseller suggest why i don't write to Donhost to make it more user-friendly, features. But contrary to expectations of 'Ales' nothing's changed at Donhost.

'Cyansmoker' good idea.. can introduce some constructive substitutes? :stickout
btw we should ban smoker's also from forum... its public place u know? :D

Originally posted by mk123
i'm sure 101% of the customers who have used CPanel will not even want to look at Donhost Cp

Why not? It would give them something to do whilst CPanel is down again... ;)

Cheers

Gary

hey Gary nice to see you again.. :D another round in the circle issit?? :bawling:

I don't know if Donhost Cp will get that chance cuz unluckily Cpanel is not down anytime....

It certainly is, from our experience. Possibly related to the provider we used...but I simply don't rate CPanel at all.

Cheers

Gary

yeah again its personal opinion.. because experience you had had from some provider.

You cannot compare through a provider as 1) Provider may use old version of CPanel 2) Provider's server down doesn't mean CPanel is down

Yeah i also don't rate but dunno why all the customers use it praise it, heard its very user friendly and have lots of options. argh! why they have to do it so nice... polluting the minds of consumers.. :stickout

Originally posted by mk123

'Cyansmoker' good idea.. can introduce some constructive substitutes? :stickout
btw we should ban smoker's also from forum... its public place u know? :D
Actually, as of last Sunday I must now be called 'cyanEXsmoker'.
Well...stay focused...only a few more days to go until my blood is nicotine-free.

'CyanSmoker' => 'CyanExSmoker'... great job buddy!!!

welcome to the forum ;)

hey guys... have a look at this thread.. for Windoze cp

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=59213

I have used:

-cpanel and whm
-ukfast reseller panel
-fasthosts control panel
-Plesk
-Exim

The only control panel that has given me zero problems, with zero bugs has been Donhost's. If it doesnt have a feature you require, like a true mailing list facility, you can always go to the trouble of installing one yourself (MojoMail is great and free).

I also like the choice of client end control panels that Donhosts provides - my clients find it very simple to use, especially with the help section that is included.

I also use MCHost who have just started offering cpanel advance with fantastico for clients use - although excellent, it is very hard for newbies to get to grips with.

mk123 - it is hard to tolerate your posts when you use :uzi: and words like 'sucks' constantly. This is a mature discussion environment, not a playgroup!

Like Gary of Aussiehost i defend Donhost because its an excellent offering, and because i'm sick of flaming from those who have little of substance to back up their claims.

AND NO apart from being a Donhost reseller, i have no other affiliation with Daniel et al. I just like what i've got :)

dear sco44..

Cpanel you have used and trying to compare with :uzi: Donhost's Cp... are u kidding? and trying to say this is mature discussion??
Better use CPanel again.

At least my users complain a lot ( the previous CPanel users),
so user is the king today... not u or me....

it doesn't matter to them if i say Daniel had spend 2 years doing this Cp... or its great because it is from my company.. they may not even like to use it even its free.

The :uzi: ur referring to smilies, which you can also freely use.

You think you have right to defend and noone else should say anything against Donhost? C'mon its mature discussion...

Thanks for your suggestion to install MojoMail etc. though its not a great idea to install Mojomail/ Webmail for everyhosting i create.
Though in this thread only i asked for any W2K based free email that i can install for few clients shouting, but got no answer... maybe u can help me.

Last but not least, I've always said all my posts are personal opinions(of course mostly based on my users feedbacks).
I already asked you to give urself a break and skip my postings, but u follow the links in my other post to come here to flame me personnaly. Did i did anything wrong to u??

cheers!