Servage have several unusual features, not all of which are obvious until you've been with them a while, so I thought a review that concentrated on these features might help.

Summary
Pros: Lots of features for a reasonable price, including unusual ones like clustered (redundant) servers and storage for offsite backups. No silly limits. Simple and effective anti-spam system and webmail.
Cons: Poor support, sloppy maintenance, no secure shell, no backups, no FrontPage server extensions, no log files, difficult migration.

Features and value
Servage is a European host offering just one simple shared-hosting package with no options, costing £4.50/month in the UK (14 month package). Currently that includes a free domain, a generous 360 gigabytes of storage and 3600 gigabits/month of data transfer, 1000 mySQL databases and unlimited addon domains, subdomains, mailboxes, ftp accounts and mailing lists. It's possible to find similar features for half the price or for twice the price, so I guess that makes them mid-range. They don't offer dedicated hosting or reseller accounts.

If you're anywhere near those usage limits you will probably be using more CPU time than any shared-hosting provider could allow anyway, so in a sense the limits are irrelevant. Illegal content, IRC servers and spam are forbidden, but otherwise there are few other restrictions - for example, adult content and media archives are allowed.

Domain registrations and SSL certificates are also available but are not cheap. They used to offer an "Eco-hosting" option but that has been withdrawn. There's a worthless "Website Builder" and a "WebDrive" utility that doesn't work included. There's only a 5-day money-back guarantee, which is ludicrously short. If you want a trial, purchase the minimum 3 month membership. There's a referral scheme which gives you two months of free hosting for every new referred customer. An unusual feature is that SMS alerts can be purchased for new e-mails and other warnings.

Clustering
Servage hosting is "clustered", which means that your web pages will be held on several identical machines, any one of which can fail or become overloaded without greatly affecting the others, in theory. Mail and databases are served from separate redundant machines as well. Most hosting companies have redundant network connections and power supplies, but at Servage nearly everything is redundant, which is an excellent principle.

In practice, I still experience occasional timeouts or even loss of service almost every month, but less frequently than at previous hosts and on the whole I think clustering is a great idea. It does have some disadvantages, though:

No log files. This means no webalizer or awstats. Basic statistics (recent hits, referers and search terms for the last week) are available in the control panel, but you will probably want to install something like "tracewatch" for more comprehensive data. Data generally needs to be stored in databases rather than simple "flat" files. Debugging scripts can be difficult without error logs.
No secure shell (SSH). This means you can't directly run installation and patching scripts, search files, add PHP plugins, zip up whole directories or copy them to another server, set arbitrary CRON jobs and so on. You can ask support people to do all this for you, but this takes days and is error-prone. One big benefit though is that other inexperienced or selfish users can't slow down your server or hack your pages so easily. After bad experiences at hosts that allow SSH access, I'm beginning to think it's better not to allow it anyway.
Propagation delays. Configuration changes such as password-protecting a directory or disabling PHP "safe mode" can take up to 3 hours to take effect, which can be frustrating.Storage
Servage are unusually generous with storage space and actually encourage you to use it for external storage of personal files. Most other shared-hosting companies prohibit or restrict this - a common limit is a maximum of "50,000 inodes". This may seem like a lot, but I found that common installations like phpBB or Gallery can use thousands of files each, quickly reaching the limit. For me, this is one of Servage's best features.

Apparently, allowing large numbers of small files can cause backups to fail, but Servage do NOT perform backups so maybe that's how they can allow this. This does mean that you have to be careful to keep your own backups though.

Support
Servage claim to offer 24/7 support (e-mail only) with an average response time of 20 minutes and 96% customer satisfaction, but that has not been my experience. In fact, they told me they measure response time only up to their first response, which is a classic example of a bad metric driving the wrong behaviour. Responses are often "brain-dead" (sometimes comically so) and they don't read the history so discussions go around in circles. Problems typically take half a dozen messages and a couple of days to solve - they took more than a week just to unzip my transferred files for me. Their English is poor and it can be EXTREMELY frustrating trying to get them to acknowledge a problem. There's no user forum. There is an FAQ system but it is full of obvious errors and typos (as is their website) - sloppy, sloppy, sloppy.

I would rate their support "very poor", except that they're always polite and they do solve really simple problems quickly so I'll make it just "poor". Definitely an area they could improve.

Reliability
The most common problem I've experienced is intermittent page timeouts. You try to load a page, and about one time in ten there's a pause for about a minute, then you get a white screen (in Firefox). If you press F5 the page then loads quickly. They moved me to a new server (all sites down for 12 hours but otherwise quite a smooth move) and the problem went away for several days, then it returned and I raised a ticket and a couple of days later it went away again. At the moment it's OK. I've also experienced continuing intermittent SFTP problems and I couldn't get WebDrive to work reliably at all (probably a related problem). I've heard anecdotally that mySQL connections sometimes fail but my sites are low-traffic "hobby" sites and I haven't noticed this.

Looking at the tickets I've raised (more than one a week) I've experienced random problems such as extra characters appearing in filemanager edits and messages sent by sendmail, subdomains suddenly not resolving, the server time being wrong by 7 minutes, sudden inability to add a particular domain or a mail forwarder, mySQL imports not working, smtp mail failure and a database corruption, all within the last couple of months. Some of these do indicate poor testing and sloppiness by the people who maintain the servers, which is an area I think they could improve. Not long ago they suffered a total power failure, which is pretty inexcusable for a hosting company these days.

Spam filtering and mail
Servage don't offer the usual SpamAssassin (it probably wouldn't work on clusters) or procmail but they do have the surprisingly effective "greylisting" system. This initially refuses unknown mail with a temporary rejection. Legitimate mail servers retry 10 minutes later and the mail is then whitelisted. Spammers rarely retry like this and are blocked. I would have thought all those "botnets" would retry and get through, but apparently they don't (yet!) because it works pretty well. The only disadvantage is the initial 10-minute delay, which is occasionally annoying. There's also a system called "FMX" and a "validation" system and whitelists and blacklists that can be used for spam filtering.

The webmail system (Squirrelmail) has two unusual features. The first is that it uses standard ports (80 or 443) rather than the non-standard 2095 that cPanel uses, which often gets blocked by corporate firewalls. The second is that it incorporates a Bayesian spam filter that I have found to be extremely effective - better than 99%, with almost no false positives. I wish all hosting companies used this.

Mail forwarders can be set up, but only to 5 destinations (unless you "chain" them), which is a bit restrictive - not big enough for a typical committee, for example. There is a mailing list feature that could be used for larger groups, but it only handles "announcement" lists. If you want to set up a "discussion list" like mailman (receiving messages from e-mail, not just a web form) you will have to install something like Dada Mail. This works, but messages can take over an hour to send because they rely on a CRON job and the maximum CRON frequency is hourly (using 24 "daily" jobs set at different times!). The mail sending limit is a generous 100 messages a minute.

Control Panel
Standard panels like cPanel won't work with clustering and Servage have written their own. It's nice and clean though and has most of the usual features.

There's no Fantastico, but there is an equivalent system to help with script installation. It doesn't do upgrades or deinstallations and doesn't support quite as many applications as Fantastico but it works.

The file manager has some strange limitations - for example, you can't copy files, you can only move them (presumably to avoid CPU load) and you can't edit a file unless it has a .txt or .html extension, but it works.

Subdomains can be anywhere - they don't have to be directly under the root of the main domain. Settings like "safe mode" and "register_globals" can be configured differently for each domain, which is convenient.

Frontpage server extensions are NOT supported, despite the claim on their website. You can use FrontPage in FTP mode, but it takes a LONG time to find the changed files on a large site. FrontPage extensions cause a lot of problems so they've probably made the right decision to abandon them, but their advertising should be more honest here.

Migration
Migrating to Servage took significantly more effort than usual. I had to zip up my files and ftp them over, then wait several days for support to unzip them. I had to manually re-enter more than 100 mail forwarders (their control panel can't import filters) then change the nameservers of all my domains. I had to manually recreate all my databases, and find and change all configured path references (no longer just "localhost" or "/usr/bin"). I had to modify my sites and editing environment to cope with the absence of FrontPage extensions. I had to find and install suitable replacements for mailman and awstats. I had to raise several tickets to get misconfigurations corrected. It could have been a lot easier.

Wow, very in-depth. :)

It's good seeing people take the time to write long reviews like this.

detailed reviews like these are always appreciated, thanks for taking out time and sharing your experience :)

Great review, I'm sure this will help many who are researching Servage.

-b

Thanks for a great review. Where did you find the info about them not having backups of client data?

Are you still with them, or are you planning on moving/have moved?

Nice review by the way!

Where did you find the info about them not having backups of client data?
Good question - it's not mentioned anywhere on their site so I assumed they don't do them, but I might be wrong. I'll ask for confirmation.

Are you still with them, or are you planning on moving/have moved?
I'm still with them, no plans to move at the moment.

It's possible to find similar features for half the price or for twice the price, so I guess that makes them mid-range.They're not mid range, by any means. They're firmly in the realm where numbers mean little, hence the comparison with hosts that are twice as "expensive" doesn't really hold water. They're targeting the budget end of the market. That's where their "range" is. (All IMO of course.)

a common limit is a maximum of "50,000 inodes"It's already becoming common? I know of one host that employs it, but I'm now curious how many you know.

On the whole, a very detailed, nicely written, detachedly toned review, with insights into servage's service that I didn't get to read in the past. Excellently done!

(Re the 50,000 inode limit):

It's already becoming common? I know of one host that employs it, but I'm now curious how many you know.
I hunted around the T&Cs of some "top ten" hosts and found the limit in nearly all of them. :( From memory, this included HostGator, LunarPages, GoDaddy, Site5...

From memory, this included HostGator, LunarPages, GoDaddy, Site5...Except one (the one I was already aware of), I didn't find any such policy at the hosts you mentioned. They may very well have other policies that in effect may limit the amount of disk space that customers can use, but I saw no mention of inodes. It would have been interesting to see this becoming popular in such a short amount of time.

Thanks for a great review. Where did you find the info about them not having backups of client data?

May 27 - 21:38 GMT
Servage - Steffan
Hello Kenneth,

Yes, we do backup all customer data. The backups stored remotely is however only used in case of hardware failure and can not be used to restore your files.


Kind regards,
Steffan, Servage Hosting


May 24 - 12:06 GMT
Servage - Nick
Hello Kenneth,

We are sorry to hear about your issue:(
We haven't deleted any folder/files from your account and we don't keep our clients data backup from where we can restore.
I would request you to change your admin panel and FTP passwords to prevent this happen in future.

Thanks for your understanding.

Kind regards,
Nick, Servage Hosting


And they did not restore any of my deleted files, after I asked them several times.

Except one (the one I was already aware of), I didn't find any such policy at the hosts you mentioned. They may very well have other policies that in effect may limit the amount of disk space that customers can use, but I saw no mention of inodes. It would have been interesting to see this becoming popular in such a short amount of time.
The inode limit's definitely there at Site5 and HostGator. Maybe the others simply prohibited "backup" usage.

The inode limit's definitely there at Site5 and HostGator. Maybe the others simply prohibited "backup" usage.I knew about HG. Just found it at Site5: http://wiki.site5.com/Resource_Usage_Policies. If it wasn't for a thread of yours in site5's community forum, I would have been looking for quite a while. The fact that I was specifically looking for "inodes" didn't help either. Hosts and their complicated sites (tos, aup, faqs, wikis, forums). :)

One thing I noticed is it's surprisingly hard to find the ToS/AUP on most host sites (at least before signing up). Also, it's often hard to get direct answers to simple pre-sales questions such as "can I store backups?" or "can I have a mailing list with 1,200 subscribers?". I get woolly answers like "limited backups are fine" or "we recommend using a commercial service for lists with more than a few hundred subscribers", which don't answer the question and lead me to suspect they haven't really thought about the issue at all.

I always wondered what would happen if one of my sites was "slashdotted". I think I've found out, after following a link from Slashdot today:


Account Suspended
Account owner has been informed. Please contact Servage Hosting via the support system.


Best regards,
Your Servage.net (http://www.servage.net/) team

How many hits in stats did your "slashdot" produce?

Does the "server clustering" please you or annoy you?

I have seen many webhosts doing this and while it has its advantages, sometimes you cant beat the traditional way of how system changes are applied.

prontohost, who are you addressing with your question?
System changes / upgrades in a clustered solution is usually more pain free since you can do it one node at a time without interrupting service(s).

Simply superb review,

sorry my question was to the OP where he mentioned up to 3 hours wait for password protecting directories and .htaccess changes.

Where did you find the info about them not having backups of client data?

I've never used them before, but yes they really need to get that sorted out...

Best wishes

<<< Signatures need to be set up in your profile. >>>

I have 4 domains at Servage. Their support is excellent, I've had my answers to any support issues answered within 30 minutes at the most.

I'm not to keen on their backups though. They don't do individual backups, just major backups. So, in other words, if you screw up, to bad. If they screw up, your covered.

Other than that their pretty good. I have no intention of moving my sites anytime soon.

Just my 2 cents...

How many hits in stats did your "slashdot" produce?It wasn't actually my own site that was "slashdotted", it was another servage customer, so I don't know. Sorry, I posted in haste and I realise now that wasn't clear. Also, I think the site was actually "Dugg" not "Slashdotted".

Does the "server clustering" please you or annoy you?...On the whole, it pleases me - it does seem to reduce the frequency and duration of downtime. But it does have some unexpected disadvantages, which was why I posted the original review.

If I had knew before what kind of hosting is this I wouldn't even come close to them.

Our portal is getting offline every single day, EVERY DAY!!!!!!!, and get move it now to another host (over 2 gigs) and again edit cofings... it's frustrating. Just stay off them with any bigger page than 512 kB. (Joking, it can be several megs), as long as it is presentation page only.

I've just had my first serious outage on Servage, all sites down for around 40 mins. If anyone else is affected, I've had this response from support:

Our datacenter is currently under a major DDoS attack (multiple gigabit/sec) . This may cause network latency to be larger than normal. We are working hard to resolve this issue and is currently optimizing our firewall rules and routing to cope with it.
We are sorry about the inconvenience caused by this.

How long has your stuff been down now? There's another poster having the same issue. Servage.net is inaccessible at the moment.

Sites are available again now, but slow. So far today they were completely down for two periods of 40 mins.

A public uptime report for my site at Servage is here (polled every 5 mins)

http://www.hyperspin.com/publicreport/12928/23749

The biggest disadvantage is the lack of proper log files and statistics, you have to manually enable stats for each domain every month, which can be very time consuming

Phil, thanks for the url :)

dnki, agree with you, the stats sux big time...

www.google.com/analytics

Can't that be used for stats? very detailed too
just posting incase anyone needs it :)

www.google.com/analytics

Can't that be used for stats? very detailed too
just posting incase anyone needs it :)

The problem is that you have to add it to every page u want it to index.

The problem is that you have to add it to every page u want it to index.
Use a PHP generated footer and stuff it in there!

I've just had my first serious outage on Servage, all sites down for around 40 mins. If anyone else is affected, I've had this response from support:


Unexpected things may happen at any time with any host. A Ddos can be worst as it can last more than a couple of hours. But the host has to update the clients properly without pushing them into total darkness.

Servage is good for average sites having bandwidth usage between 5GB-10Gb per day.

Must I add that Servage is a company that should taken with caution (at least if you are a heavy bandwidth user)?

I suspect Servage of bandwidth fraud. Take a look at http://www.hlrse.net/files (hlrse.net is hosted by visfx.net; the common setup with Apache, cPanel + Pro + WHM, MySQL, phpMyAdmin, etc). There are approximately 2 to 3GB of data there. Because of this /files/ folder, HLRSE uses an average of 400GB/mo. Removing or renaming the folder will cease of the "400GB/mo" bandwidth usage (guaranteed, I've given it a try for a few days). Anywhere from 8GB to 20GB of bandwidth is used per day (AwStats and all kinds and varieties of other logs to prove it). 500GB is rare, and 600GB per month is even rarer. Only once within the last 4 years of HLRSE have we ever exceeded 600GB/mo of bandwidth. Just a few times have we been around 500GB/mo, but most commonly, at the end of the month it is between 350GB/mo to 450GB/mo. HLRSE has approximately 50,000 to 80,000 hits per month.

Now let us compare the above data to a clone of HLRSE (or atleast /files/) on a decoy site. I signup on Servage with the domain name bluetoast.org. Within a matter of time, /files/ has been transferred from HLRSE.Net to BlueToast.Org. I rename /files/ on HLRSE.Net to /.files/. Then I edit http://www.hlrse.net/.htaccess and put the following snippet in it:

# Redirect Fix
Redirect /content/hlrse/halflife.zip http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Official%20Files/svencoop30full.zip
Redirect "/files/" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/"
Redirect "/files/Nostalgia/" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Nostalgia/"
Redirect "/files/Nostalgia/Sven Co-op v1.9.exe" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Nostalgia/Sven%20Co-op%20v1.9.exe"
Redirect "/files/Nostalgia/.osprey0000.jpg" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Nostalgia/.osprey0000.jpg"
Redirect "/files/Nostalgia/.phobia0000.jpg" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Nostalgia/.phobia0000.jpg"
Redirect "/files/Nostalgia/Sven Co-op v2.0f-v2.1 Patch.exe" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Nostalgia/Sven%20Co-op%20v2.0f-v2.1%20Patch.exe"
Redirect "/files/Nostalgia/.NostalgicSvenCoopClient.rar" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Nostalgia/.NostalgicSvenCoopClient.rar"
Redirect "/files/Nostalgia/Sven Co-op v2.0f.exe" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Nostalgia/Sven%20Co-op%20v2.0f.exe"
Redirect "/files/Nostalgia/.phobia0001.jpg" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Nostalgia/.phobia0001.jpg"
Redirect "/files/Nostalgia/Sven Co-op v2.0b.exe" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Nostalgia/Sven%20Co-op%20v2.0b.exe"
Redirect "/files/Nostalgia/Sven Co-op v0.8.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Nostalgia/Sven%20Co-op%20v0.8.zip"
Redirect "/files/Official Files/" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Official%20Files/"
Redirect "/files/Official Files/Patchs/" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Official%20Files/Patchs/"
Redirect "/files/Official Files/Patchs/svencoop21-30upd.exe" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Official%20Files/Patchs/svencoop21-30upd.exe"
Redirect "/files/Official Files/svencoop30full.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Official%20Files/svencoop30full.zip"
Redirect "/files/Official Files/SPFix/" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Official%20Files/SPFix/"
Redirect "/files/Official Files/SPFix/SC3_HLSP_enabler.rar" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Official%20Files/SPFix/SC3_HLSP_enabler.rar"
Redirect "/files/Official Files/svencoop30content.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Official%20Files/svencoop30content.zip"
Redirect "/files/Official Files/Mapping/" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Official%20Files/Mapping/"
Redirect "/files/Official Files/Mapping/hammer_v34.exe" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Official%20Files/Mapping/hammer_v34.exe"
Redirect "/files/Official Files/Mapping/Sven Co-op 3.0 FGD Custom.rar" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Official%20Files/Mapping/Sven%20Co-op%203.0%20FGD%20Custom.rar"
Redirect "/files/Official Files/Mapping/Revolver_Beta1.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Official%20Files/Mapping/Revolver_Beta1.zip"
Redirect "/files/Official Files/Mapping/Zoners Half-Life Tools 321.rar" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Official%20Files/Mapping/Zoners%20Half-Life%20Tools%20321.rar"
Redirect "/files/Official Files/Mapping/Zoners Half-Life Tools 253-17.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Official%20Files/Mapping/Zoners%20Half-Life%20Tools%20253-17.zip"
Redirect "/files/Official Files/Mapping/Sven Co-op 3.0 FGD.rar" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Official%20Files/Mapping/Sven%20Co-op%203.0%20FGD.rar"
Redirect "/files/Official Files/Mapping/zhlt34x64final.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Official%20Files/Mapping/zhlt34x64final.zip"
Redirect "/files/Official Files/Mapping/wally_155b.exe" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Official%20Files/Mapping/wally_155b.exe"
Redirect "/files/Official Files/Mapping/zhlt34x86final.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Official%20Files/Mapping/zhlt34x86final.zip"
Redirect "/files/Official Files/Mapping/Hammer_Original34_Exe.rar" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Official%20Files/Mapping/Hammer_Original34_Exe.rar"
Redirect "/files/Official Files/Mapping/batchcompiler312.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Official%20Files/Mapping/batchcompiler312.zip"
Redirect "/files/Official Files/Mapping/spritefixer.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Official%20Files/Mapping/spritefixer.zip"
Redirect "/files/Official Files/Mapping/Sven Co-op 3.0 FGD Custom.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Official%20Files/Mapping/Sven%20Co-op%203.0%20FGD%20Custom.zip"
Redirect "/files/Official Files/Mapping/Hammer_Beta35_Exe.rar" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Official%20Files/Mapping/Hammer_Beta35_Exe.rar"
Redirect "/files/Official Files/Mapping/texextract.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Official%20Files/Mapping/texextract.zip"
Redirect "/files/Official Files/Mapping/hlmv135_setup.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Official%20Files/Mapping/hlmv135_setup.zip"
Redirect "/files/Official Files/Mapping/Sven Co-op 3.0 FGD.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Official%20Files/Mapping/Sven%20Co-op%203.0%20FGD.zip"
Redirect "/files/Official Files/svencoop30full.exe" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Official%20Files/svencoop30full.exe"
Redirect "/files/Official Files/Official Files.txt" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Official%20Files/Official%20Files.txt"
Redirect "/files/Official Files/cl_dlls.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Official%20Files/cl_dlls.zip"
Redirect "/files/Server/" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/"
Redirect "/files/Server/HLRSE Server Kit (v1.1).zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/HLRSE%20Server%20Kit%20(v1.1).zip"
Redirect "/files/Server/QwertysPing(tm) v1.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/QwertysPing(tm)%20v1.zip"
Redirect "/files/Server/HLRSE Server Kit (v1.1).rar" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/HLRSE%20Server%20Kit%20(v1.1).rar"
Redirect "/files/Server/Modifications.txt" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Modifications.txt"
Redirect "/files/Server/Configurations/" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Configurations/"
Redirect "/files/Server/Configurations/Realistic Skill.rar" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Configurations/Realistic%20Skill.rar"
Redirect "/files/Server/Configurations/Original Skill.rar" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Configurations/Original%20Skill.rar"
Redirect "/files/Server/Server.txt" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Server.txt"
Redirect "/files/Server/Metamod/" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Metamod/"
Redirect "/files/Server/Metamod/metamod-1.19-win.src.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Metamod/metamod-1.19-win.src.zip"
Redirect "/files/Server/Metamod/metamod-1.17.3-linux.tar.gz" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Metamod/metamod-1.17.3-linux.tar.gz"
Redirect "/files/Server/Metamod/metamod-1.19-win.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Metamod/metamod-1.19-win.zip"
Redirect "/files/Server/Metamod/Client/" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Metamod/Client/"
Redirect "/files/Server/Metamod/metamod-1.17.3-win.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Metamod/metamod-1.17.3-win.zip"
Redirect "/files/Server/Metamod/SvenCoop30_Metamod.rar" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Metamod/SvenCoop30_Metamod.rar"
Redirect "/files/Server/Metamod/metamod-1.19-linux.tar.tar" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Metamod/metamod-1.19-linux.tar.tar"
Redirect "/files/Server/Metamod/metamod-1.17.3-win.src.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Metamod/metamod-1.17.3-win.src.zip"
Redirect "/files/Server/Metamod/metamod-1.17.3-linux.src.tar.gz" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Metamod/metamod-1.17.3-linux.src.tar.gz"
Redirect "/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/"
Redirect "/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/AMX/" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/AMX/"
Redirect "/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/AMX/amx-0.9.9-steam.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/AMX/amx-0.9.9-steam.zip"
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Redirect "/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/GhostMineBlock/ghost_mine_block_mm-1.0.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/GhostMineBlock/ghost_mine_block_mm-1.0.zip"
Redirect "/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/WhichBot/" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/WhichBot/"
Redirect "/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/WhichBot/whichbot-nsbeta-v0_94.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/WhichBot/whichbot-nsbeta-v0_94.zip"
Redirect "/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/Fireworks/" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/Fireworks/"
Redirect "/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/Fireworks/fireworks_mm.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/Fireworks/fireworks_mm.zip"
Redirect "/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/Admin Mod/" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/Admin%20Mod/"
Redirect "/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/Admin Mod/AdminMod-2_50_60-HTML-Manual.tgz" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/Admin%20Mod/AdminMod-2_50_60-HTML-Manual.tgz"
Redirect "/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/Admin Mod/amxconv.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/Admin%20Mod/amxconv.zip"
Redirect "/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/Admin Mod/Plugins/" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/Admin%20Mod/Plugins/"
Redirect "/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/Admin Mod/halflife-admin-2.50.60-win.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/Admin%20Mod/halflife-admin-2.50.60-win.zip"
Redirect "/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/JGHG Trace/" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/JGHG%20Trace/"
Redirect "/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/SkinMod/" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/SkinMod/"
Redirect "/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/SkinMod/skinmodsourcev20.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/SkinMod/skinmodsourcev20.zip"
Redirect "/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/SkinMod/skinmod.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/SkinMod/skinmod.zip"
Redirect "/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/Shieldfix/" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/Shieldfix/"
Redirect "/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/NoSeeVar/" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/NoSeeVar/"
Redirect "/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/AdminOp/" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/AdminOp/"
Redirect "/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/NinjaRope-Rocket/" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/NinjaRope-Rocket/"
Redirect "/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/FactoryLimit/" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/FactoryLimit/"
Redirect "/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/LerkLift/" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/LerkLift/"
Redirect "/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/Entmod/" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/Entmod/"
Redirect "/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/Entmod/EntMod3_lin.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/Entmod/EntMod3_lin.zip"
Redirect "/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/Entmod/EntMod3_win.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/Entmod/EntMod3_win.zip"
Redirect "/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/AntiFake/" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/AntiFake/"
Redirect "/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/AntiFake/antifake02.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/AntiFake/antifake02.zip"
Redirect "/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/Foxbot/" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/Foxbot/"
Redirect "/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/LogMod/" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/LogMod/"
Redirect "/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/Playername/" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/Playername/"
Redirect "/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/Playername/playername_source-2.81.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/Playername/playername_source-2.81.zip"
Redirect "/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/Playername/playername_mm-2.81.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Metamod/Modifications/Playername/playername_mm-2.81.zip"
Redirect "/files/Server/Metamod/metamod-1.19-linux-amd64.tar.gz" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Metamod/metamod-1.19-linux-amd64.tar.gz"
Redirect "/files/Server/Metamod/metamod-1.19-linux.src.tar.gz" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Metamod/metamod-1.19-linux.src.tar.gz"
Redirect "/files/Server/Metamod/metamod-1.17.3-linux-amd64.tar.gz" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Metamod/metamod-1.17.3-linux-amd64.tar.gz"
Redirect "/files/Server/HLRSE Server Kit (v1.2).rar" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/HLRSE%20Server%20Kit%20(v1.2).rar"
Redirect "/files/Server/HLRSE Server Kit (v1.2).zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/HLRSE%20Server%20Kit%20(v1.2).zip"
Redirect "/files/Server/Utilities/" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/Utilities/"
Redirect "/files/Server/HLRSE Sven Co-op Server Kit (5-12-2004).rar" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Server/HLRSE%20Sven%20Co-op%20Server%20Kit%20(5-12-2004).rar"
Redirect "/files/Misc/" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Misc/"
Redirect "/files/Misc/Sven Co-op v3.0 Complete Pack.exe" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Misc/Sven%20Co-op%20v3.0%20Complete%20Pack.exe"
Redirect "/files/MP3/" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/MP3/"
Redirect "/files/MP3/Coopman.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/MP3/Coopman.zip"
Redirect "/files/MP3/Sila_Lumenn.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/MP3/Sila_Lumenn.zip"
Redirect "/files/MP3/MP3.txt" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/MP3/MP3.txt"
Redirect "/files/MP3/Viking.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/MP3/Viking.zip"
Redirect "/files/MP3/cyborg-original.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/MP3/cyborg-original.zip"
Redirect "/files/MP3/BalladSC.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/MP3/BalladSC.zip"
Redirect "/files/MP3/Rusky_Lobby.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/MP3/Rusky_Lobby.zip"
Redirect "/files/MP3/Summertime.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/MP3/Summertime.zip"
Redirect "/files/Half-Life2/" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Half-Life2/"
Redirect "/files/Half-Life2/Tweaks/" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Half-Life2/Tweaks/"
Redirect "/files/Half-Life2/Tweaks/Super Low Quality.rar" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Half-Life2/Tweaks/Super%20Low%20Quality.rar"
Redirect "/files/Half-Life2/Tweaks/Super Low Quality.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Half-Life2/Tweaks/Super%20Low%20Quality.zip"
Redirect "/files/Map Packs/" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/"
Redirect "/files/Map Packs/RE1.exe" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/RE1.exe"
Redirect "/files/Map Packs/svencoop30content.exe" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/svencoop30content.exe"
Redirect "/files/Map Packs/projectguilty.exe" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/projectguilty.exe"
Redirect "/files/Map Packs/TheBigOneSCv2.exe" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/TheBigOneSCv2.exe"
Redirect "/files/Map Packs/sc_creepsworld.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/sc_creepsworld.zip"
Redirect "/files/Map Packs/sc_classic.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/sc_classic.zip"
Redirect "/files/Map Packs/projectguilty11.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/projectguilty11.zip"
Redirect "/files/Map Packs/caseclosed.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/caseclosed.zip"
Redirect "/files/Map Packs/Project Guilty 11.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/Project%20Guilty%2011.zip"
Redirect "/files/Map Packs/sc_etc.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/sc_etc.zip"
Redirect "/files/Map Packs/Map Packs.txt" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/Map%20Packs.txt"
Redirect "/files/Map Packs/reo1.7z" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/reo1.7z"
Redirect "/files/Map Packs/20B.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/20B.zip"
Redirect "/files/Map Packs/RECO_Final.7z" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/RECO_Final.7z"
Redirect "/files/Map Packs/sc_mappack20b.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/sc_mappack20b.zip"
Redirect "/files/Map Packs/Classic.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/Classic.zip"
Redirect "/files/Map Packs/Optional.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/Optional.zip"
Redirect "/files/Map Packs/ETC Coop.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/ETC%20Coop.zip"
Redirect "/files/Map Packs/MG386_Pack1.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/MG386_Pack1.zip"
Redirect "/files/SteamInstall.exe" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/SteamInstall.exe"
Redirect "/files/Models/" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/"
Redirect "/files/Models/Monster/" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Monster/"
Redirect "/files/Models/Monster/chicken.rar" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Monster/chicken.rar"
Redirect "/files/Models/Monster/HEVass.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Monster/HEVass.zip"
Redirect "/files/Models/Monster/roach.rar" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Monster/roach.rar"
Redirect "/files/Models/Monster/hgrunt.rar" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Monster/hgrunt.rar"
Redirect "/files/Models/Monster/HWotis.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Monster/HWotis.zip"
Redirect "/files/Models/Monster/hassassinf.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Monster/hassassinf.zip"
Redirect "/files/Models/Monster/sgrunt.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Monster/sgrunt.zip"
Redirect "/files/Models/Weapons/" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Weapons/"
Redirect "/files/Models/Weapons/9mmar sd.rar" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Weapons/9mmar%20sd.rar"
Redirect "/files/Models/Weapons/AHLFists.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Weapons/AHLFists.zip"
Redirect "/files/Models/Weapons/weine_wbsocom.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Weapons/weine_wbsocom.zip"
Redirect "/files/Models/Weapons/FLCLGuitar.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Weapons/FLCLGuitar.zip"
Redirect "/files/Models/Weapons/akira_laser_rifle.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Weapons/akira_laser_rifle.zip"
Redirect "/files/Models/Weapons/chaingun.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Weapons/chaingun.zip"
Redirect "/files/Models/Weapons/HDWeapons.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Weapons/HDWeapons.zip"
Redirect "/files/Models/Weapons/trigun.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Weapons/trigun.zip"
Redirect "/files/Models/Weapons/weine_oicw.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Weapons/weine_oicw.zip"
Redirect "/files/Models/Weapons/tuesday_hev_kick.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Weapons/tuesday_hev_kick.zip"
Redirect "/files/Models/Weapons/chubbyhoundeye.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Weapons/chubbyhoundeye.zip"
Redirect "/files/Models/Weapons/chainsaw.rar" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Weapons/chainsaw.rar"
Redirect "/files/Models/Weapons/headcrabsnark.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Weapons/headcrabsnark.zip"
Redirect "/files/Models/Weapons/DMC_Crowbar.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Weapons/DMC_Crowbar.zip"
Redirect "/files/Models/Weapons/tuesday_grunt_kick_wrench.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Weapons/tuesday_grunt_kick_wrench.zip"
Redirect "/files/Models/Weapons/9mmar_morita rifle.rar" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Weapons/9mmar_morita%20rifle.rar"
Redirect "/files/Models/Weapons/sd.rar" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Weapons/sd.rar"
Redirect "/files/Models/Player/" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Player/"
Redirect "/files/Models/Player/ribbon_snipe.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Player/ribbon_snipe.zip"
Redirect "/files/Models/Player/scimarines1_2.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Player/scimarines1_2.zip"
Redirect "/files/Models/Player/AHL-Various.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Player/AHL-Various.zip"
Redirect "/files/Models/Player/scassassin.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Player/scassassin.zip"
Redirect "/files/Models/Player/hdbarney.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Player/hdbarney.zip"
Redirect "/files/Models/Player/Surreal Player Models.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Player/Surreal%20Player%20Models.zip"
Redirect "/files/Models/Player/warsdayoff.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Player/warsdayoff.zip"
Redirect "/files/Models/Player/reaperskel.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Player/reaperskel.zip"
Redirect "/files/Models/Player/mrgib.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Player/mrgib.zip"
Redirect "/files/Models/Player/GordonFreemanDetailed.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Player/GordonFreemanDetailed.zip"
Redirect "/files/Models/Player/turkets.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Player/turkets.zip"
Redirect "/files/Models/Player/vanca.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Player/vanca.zip"
Redirect "/files/Models/Player/simmclan.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Player/simmclan.zip"
Redirect "/files/Models/Player/Doom_Chaingun.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Player/Doom_Chaingun.zip"
Redirect "/files/Models/Player/pingwinrave.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Player/pingwinrave.zip"
Redirect "/files/Models/Player/QwertysModelPack_v32_eMule_5-12-2004.rar" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Player/QwertysModelPack_v32_eMule_5-12-2004.rar"
Redirect "/files/Models/Player/gordongreen.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Player/gordongreen.zip"
Redirect "/files/Models/Player/warmedic.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Player/warmedic.zip"
Redirect "/files/Models/Player/TrigunPack.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Player/TrigunPack.zip"
Redirect "/files/Models/Player/vanrobo.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Player/vanrobo.zip"
Redirect "/files/Models/Player/PP_1__Quake_.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Player/PP_1__Quake_.zip"
Redirect "/files/Models/Player/AvP2Pred.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Player/AvP2Pred.zip"
Redirect "/files/Models/Player/simmjames.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Player/simmjames.zip"
Redirect "/files/Models/Player/penguinplayers.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Player/penguinplayers.zip"
Redirect "/files/Models/Player/zero.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Player/zero.zip"
Redirect "/files/Models/Player/badjesus.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Player/badjesus.zip"
Redirect "/files/Models/Models.txt" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Models/Models.txt"
Redirect "/files/Maps/" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Maps/"
Redirect "/files/Maps/sc_fear.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Maps/sc_fear.zip"
Redirect "/files/Maps/purge.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Maps/purge.zip"
Redirect "/files/Maps/Suicide_Run.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Maps/Suicide_Run.zip"
Redirect "/files/Maps/Maps.txt" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Maps/Maps.txt"
Redirect "/files/Maps/farmhouse.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Maps/farmhouse.zip"
Redirect "/files/Maps/mastamike.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Maps/mastamike.zip"
Redirect "/files/Maps/sc_frogger_b1.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Maps/sc_frogger_b1.zip"
Redirect "/files/Maps/haunted.wad" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Maps/haunted.wad"
Redirect "/files/Maps/question.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Maps/question.zip"
Redirect "/files/Maps/deltar.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Maps/deltar.zip"
Redirect "/files/Maps/invisiblezombies.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Maps/invisiblezombies.zip"
Redirect "/files/Maps/RECO.exe" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Maps/RECO.exe"
Redirect "/files/Maps/Ck_stadiumf.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Maps/Ck_stadiumf.zip"
Redirect "/files/Maps/fun_zone_sc.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Maps/fun_zone_sc.zip"
Redirect "/files/Maps/earthbase.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Maps/earthbase.zip"
Redirect "/files/Maps/beachxp.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Maps/beachxp.zip"
Redirect "/files/SvenCoopSteamSkin.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/SvenCoopSteamSkin.zip"
Redirect "/files/Eye Candy/" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Eye%20Candy/"
Redirect "/files/Eye Candy/bumpmap.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Eye%20Candy/bumpmap.zip"
Redirect "/files/Eye Candy/detailtextures.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Eye%20Candy/detailtextures.zip"
Redirect "/files/Eye Candy/tronglow.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Eye%20Candy/tronglow.zip"
Redirect "/files/Unrelated/" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Unrelated/"
Redirect "/files/Unrelated/MBM5370.exe" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Unrelated/MBM5370.exe"
Redirect "/files/Unrelated/Thirdspace/" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Unrelated/Thirdspace/"
Redirect "/files/Unrelated/Thirdspace/TSinst.exe" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Unrelated/Thirdspace/TSinst.exe"
Redirect "/files/Unrelated/Thirdspace/3rdspace1.wmv" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Unrelated/Thirdspace/3rdspace1.wmv"
Redirect "/files/Unrelated/Thirdspace/3rdspace1.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Unrelated/Thirdspace/3rdspace1.zip"
Redirect "/files/Unrelated/Gobby.rar" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Unrelated/Gobby.rar"
Redirect "/files/Unrelated/Subspace/" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Unrelated/Subspace/"
Redirect "/files/Unrelated/Subspace/Subspace_Instructions_Strategy_Guides.zip" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Unrelated/Subspace/Subspace_Instructions_Strategy_Guides.zip"
Redirect "/files/Unrelated/Subspace/Zones/" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Unrelated/Subspace/Zones/"
Redirect "/files/Unrelated/Subspace/Zones/SSRedPlanet-InstallerFull.exe" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Unrelated/Subspace/Zones/SSRedPlanet-InstallerFull.exe" Before I move on, I would like to share with you how Redirect in HTAccess works. Say that I never renamed /files/ to /.files/ (on HLRSE.Net). Because hlrse.net/files/SteamInstall.exe exists, even though Redirect "/files/SteamInstall.exe" "http://www.bluetoast.org/files/SteamInstall.exe" is in my HTAccess, it will ignore that part of the HTAccess and load SteamInstall.exe from HLRSE.Net instead of BlueToast.Org. However, if I rename SteamInstall.exe or delete the file, this is what the server does:
1) Check to see if SteamInstall.exe exists in hlrse.net/files/
- If it does exist, then the user will download the file from hlrse.net
- If it does not exist, then the user will download from bluetoast.org (or wherever this file is redirected to in HTAccess)

Pretty neat, eh? Saves me a hunk of time to use this redirect method rather than use PHP, HTML, or other redirection methods. I have experimented with 'redirect' in HTAccess enough to tell you that this is pretty genuine of a tool; if file does not exist on local server, then load the redirection/other URL.

So now, as I had been saying; /files/ had been transferred successfully to bluetoast.org by the Servage operators. Awesome! Now I just need to rename hlrse.net/files/ to hlrse.net/.files/ (or something else) so that my HTAccess redirections can go into effect. I rename the folder and test out some of the URLs myself (ie. http://www.hlrse.net/files/Official%20Files/Mapping/zhlt34x64final.zip --> http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Official%20Files/Mapping/zhlt34x64final.zip) to make sure it is working. I especially make sure that files like http://www.hlrse.net/files/Official%20Files/svencoop30full.exe are working (this file is the installer to a Half-Life mod, Sven Co-op v3.0 [Full]). So it works, yay! Now let's sit back and relax. Everything is going according to plan.



A day later I login to my control panel on Servage to check out my bandwidth usage by curiousity. So far I haven't exactly had any suspicions yet...
Uniques: Pageviews: Hits: Transfer:
Friday 15 37 1359 92.52 GB
Thursday 10 593 2011 87.74 GB
Wednesday 5 474 1938 93.72 GB However, I did notice that my daily bandwidth transfer was 10x more than on HLRSE.Net. I disregard this since I have 3.6TB of monthly transfer, should be plenty enough -- right?

Wrong. Next day I find out that my account was suspended. I login to check my bandwidth meter and it says that I had so-far in this month used a total of (some number below 400, but above 350) 397 GB out of 3600 GB. Hmm, ok. I submit a ticket titled "Bandwidth Exceeded Glitch." Soon after the operator tells me that the daily limit is 120GB. Wt? This isn't what I signed up for. Before I had signed up, I had apparently looked EVERYWHERE on their website for a catch except for their Terms of Service, which is a small tiny link on the bottom of their page on servage.net. I use a 1680x1050 resolution -- though I'm not sure if this really matters. Then on the ToS page, I had to CTRL F my way to find the following in their ToS page...
Bandwidth and Disk Usage:

Customer agrees that bandwidth and disk usage shall not exceed the number of megabytes per month for the Services ordered by Customer on the Order Form and must be fairly distributed over the month. Customers are able to use 120 Gb daily totaling 3600 Gb in a normal 30 day month. A 28 day month provides 3360 Gb transfer and a 31 day month will allow a total of 3720 Gb transfer. Sites that consume over our daily limit on a regular basis period will be disabled and client must look into another Web hosting provider to accommodate those high bandwidth needs. Well, that's great to know...now. Also to mention that the nicely hidden refund time-period of 5 days from registration was also expired for me. Cool, just cool.

Oh, and did you notice that they use "Gb" instead of "GB" in their ToS? Interesting...

Guess what? I even checked the 'Statistics' page for this day to see how much bandwidth I had used above 120GB:
Uniques: Pageviews: Hits: Transfer:
Saturday 19 232 2090 138.94 GB
Friday 15 37 1359 92.52 GB
Thursday 10 593 2011 87.74 GB
Wednesday 5 474 1938 93.72 GB 139GB in one single day. I have explicitly never in my life had a bandwidth usage greater then 40GB in a single day. That shocked me. Now I got down to business.


I immediately renamed hlrse.net/.files/ back to hlrse.net/files/ and rechecked the URLs to make sure that the HTAccess was not redirecting. Good, it isn't redirecting to BlueToast.org now. Let me mention that BlueToast.org is known by no more than 7 people. Out of these 7 people, only 1 of them frequently has a potential, chance, or possibility to visit HLRSE.Net and download stuff. I had never advertised a download link to bluetoast.org either -- only links to hlrse.net. In short -- nobody even knows that bluetoast.org nor bluetoast.org/files/ exists. Nobody notices when they download some file from HLRSE.Net like http://www.hlrse.net/files/SteamInstall.exe. Who would CARE to know what website they are downloading from if they get good speeds? You know, hardly any people actually browse http://www.hlrse.net/files/, and even less -- visit http://www.hlrse.net/files/, be redirected to http://www.bluetoast.org/files/, and update their bookmarks or remember to go back there the very next morning.

What's my point so far with the above paragraph? Aha, well -- next day I found out something quite astonishing:
Uniques: Pageviews: Hits: Transfer:
Sunday 11 163 1251 60.79 GB
Saturday 19 232 2090 138.94 GB
Friday 15 37 1359 92.52 GB
Thursday 10 593 2011 87.74 GB
Wednesday 5 474 1938 93.72 GB I'm still getting a rather large amount of transfer, despite the fact that I had removed all traces of redirections to BlueToast.org? How? This isn't possible, really. There must be a days-worth of lag or something, but that isn't possible either. The very moment (or within the same hour) the website had tipped over 120GB of its limit on Saturday, no doubt the website must have been suspended for exceeding its daily limit. Rest of the day it was suspended. During its suspension I told and complained to some of my buddies in Trillian about it and immediately fixed the links. I know this for sure because a mirror to svencoop30full.exe (Half-Life: Sven Co-op v3.0 [Full] Installer) from HLRSE.Net is on the mirror/downloads page of svencoop.com, and is the only direct link on the list. HLRSE.Net is on full duplex 100mbit ports; premium bandwidth. Premium bandwidth + high speed download speeds + direct links/leeches + large files ranging from 100MB to 700MB + a little attention, especially from official mod websites = excessive use of bandwidth. AwStats even tells me who is leeching from me and where. :) I could not walk away to risk losing some traffic and wait for BlueToast.org to be unsuspended.. it would be unacceptable for me to do that. So I cancelled out the HTAccess redirections and HLRSE yet again serves as the server for these files.

Must have trailed off quite a bit there. Most of that was to support my reason that it is basically impossible to even exceed 1GB of bandwidth on Sunday after I had cancelled out the redirections on HLRSE in the middle of Saturday.



Here is the latest statistics:
Uniques: Pageviews: Hits: Transfer:
Today 8 47 638 48.03 GB
Sunday 11 163 1251 60.79 GB
Saturday 19 232 2090 138.94 GB
Friday 15 37 1359 92.52 GB
Thursday 10 593 2011 87.74 GB
Wednesday 5 474 1938 93.72 GB
Tuesday 0 0 0 0 KB
Monday 0 0 1 0 KB
Total: 68 1546 9288 521.73 GB My cancelling of the redirections begins making its obvious changes in the statistics on "Today" -- atleast for the Uniques, Pageviews, and Hits. The transfer is still impossibly high; and what makes it even more unreasonable is the contrast of uniques/pageviews/hits from Sunday and Today. I think you see what I'm saying...



Bandwidth fraud. I am being ripped off of what I paid for. I didn't pay for bandwidth fraud.

They even try to hide the fact that you can only use 120GB per day; why not 107.58GB per day or some other value? Why do they not have an asterisk after their advertisement of "3600 GB Monthly Data Transfer" or "3600 GB Transfer"? Not even in the [help] link for "3600 GB Transfer" under that large header advertisement on servage.net contains a single byte of information about daily limits. Go look for yourself! :mad:


Before I made this reply, I even submitted a ticket regarding this. It has less detail but some new details I have not mentioned in this reply; you can find this at http://www.hlrse.net/servage.html.



UPDATE: Received a reply in my ticket...

Oct 08 - 16:38 GMT
Servage - Scott
Hello Joshua,

Thank you for updating this ticket. I think you should be able to install a program which sent the data to a database you create. Here is a suggestion you can try: PHPcounterSMART - this is a stat which uses PHP and mysql which we suppport both. You find it under this url:
http://www.hotscripts.com/search/11638691.html


Kind regards,
Scott, Servage Hosting

My response:
Thank you for your kindness Scott. I will definately give PHPcounterSMART a try and set it up within the next few hours.

I would like to know your thoughts about this situation though; I have an in-depth analysis at http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?p=4746491#post4746491 -- perhaps you may be able to provide me some insight into the rather strange "anomalies" I've speculated about.

Regards,
Joshua Szanto

Where's the edit button?



Servage Reply:
Oct 08 - 18:48 GMT
Servage - Scott
Hello Joshua,

Kindly upload your statistics script and then check again.

Thank you!

Kind regards,
Scott, Servage Hosting

My reply:
Oct 08 - 18:52 GMT
Customer
First problem is that this script does not monitor, keep track of, generate or produce statistics for bandwidth and bandwidth usage.

http://www.bluetoast.org/phpcountersmart - Password is abc123.

It also requires you (apparently) to insert a code into the pages you want to have monitored. That is the second problem with this script. Take a look at http://www.hlrse.net/files/ or http://www.bluetoast.org/files/. As you can see, neither have any webpages or index files; there is nothing there to insert code into.

phpCounterSmart actually has nothing to do or is not able to aide me or Servage in regards to the "bandwidth fraud" topic.

Regards,
Joshua Szanto

and maybe servage breaks downloads?
I say this because sometimes (i could say always) when someone try to download a large file (100 mb), this download break around 10 mb.
Anyone think that servage does it?
Cheers

If someone access a 500MB file at your account and cancel just after download started it still counts as 500MB bandwidth towards your bandwidth quota. I even tried using Reget (download acc.) on a large file at my account and it showed up as if I had downloaded the files ten times...
To sum things up: According to servage stats my account used 6GB in 5 minutes. That givs a speed of 20MB/s - and a hint is that I don't have a gbit internet connection at home... Anyone's account that hosts large files can easily be suspended due to that "bug".

Uniques: Pageviews: Hits: Transfer:
Today 0 2 42 1.77 GB
Tuesday 14 61 597 29.22 GB
Monday 12 70 854 56.33 GB
Sunday 11 163 1251 60.79 GB
Saturday 19 232 2090 138.94 GB
Friday 15 37 1359 92.52 GB
Thursday 10 593 2011 87.74 GB
Wednesday 5 474 1938 93.72 GB
Total: 86 1632 10142 561.03 GBStill Tuesday for me, right now.

I'm conducting an experiment to prove mathematically and scientifically that this is bandwidth fraud. Redirections from hlrse.net to bluetoast.org have been re-enabled.

I hate to post after my own posts, but for the sake of documentation (I would personally prefer continously editting my own posts, but here you can only do that once).

I was going to add this to my previous post.
Another experiment (irrelevant to the above statement). I asked two buddies (only two) a favor; they accomplished the favor as asked. I also repeated the process that you will find out below in GetRight will four connections twice.
[20:52] Qwerty: Hey abe
[20:52] Qwerty: You there?
[20:53] Qwerty: I need you to try something for me; a little test regarding my investigation of Servage.net
[20:53] Qwerty: http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/TheBigOneSCv2.exe
[20:53] Abe: yeah
[20:54] Qwerty: Start downloading it, after a few KBs, cancel it. Loop the process a few times over. Count how many times you do this and tell me the number
[20:55] Abe: what is it?
[20:56] Qwerty: A 700mb map pack for SC. Don't download all of it -- just a few KBs; cancel it 1 or 2 seconds after you begin downloading it, then restart from scratch and loop the process.
[20:56] Abe: it works
[20:56] Abe: did it 3 times, it works
[20:56] Qwerty: Theory: when you cancel a download, it doesn't actually measure the amount you downloaded
[20:56] Qwerty: I know
[20:56] Qwerty: Say you downloaded 100KB of 700MB
[20:56] Qwerty: The bandwidth monitoring system wasn't designed correctly
[20:56] Qwerty: You cancel at 200KB
[20:57] Qwerty: the bandwidth monitoring system reports that 700MB had just been downloaded
[20:57] Qwerty: That's a theory, I want to test it.
[20:57] Qwerty: A few restarts/cancels of this file should quickly add up a few GBs
[20:57] Qwerty: Stats from a few minutes ago:
[20:57] Qwerty: Uniques: Pageviews: Hits: Transfer:
Today 0 2 42 1.77 GB
[20:58] Abe: ah
[21:01] Qwerty: that is sick..
[21:01] Qwerty: Uniques: Pageviews: Hits: Transfer:
Today 2 9 81 11.88 GB[20:50] Qwerty: Hey, you there?
[20:50] Qwerty: Do you have GetRight?
[20:50] RJ: yep
[20:54] RJ: nope.. do I need it?
[20:54] Qwerty: nope
[20:54] Qwerty: http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/TheBigOneSCv2.exe
[20:54] Qwerty: Start downloading that. Cancel it after a few KBs. Restart download from scratch; loop. Do this a few times and count that number of times. Tell me how many times you did this.
[20:55] Qwerty: It's in regards of my investigation of servage.net
[20:55] RJ: you think it counts the whole thing?
[20:55] RJ: whether or not I complete it?
[20:57] RJ: 4 times
[20:57] Qwerty: dont complete it
[20:57] Qwerty: cancel it 1 or 2 seconds after starting it
[20:57] Qwerty: Stats from many minutes ago:
[20:57] Qwerty: Uniques: Pageviews: Hits: Transfer:
Today 0 2 42 1.77 GB
[20:58] RJ: I never completed them
[20:58] Qwerty: I want to see if the system interprets it as if you downloaded the whole 700mb
[20:58] Qwerty: even though you didnt
[20:58] Qwerty: a few times
[20:58] Qwerty: should quickly rack up a few GBs
[20:58] RJ: I just did it again..
[20:59] RJ: what does it say now?
[20:59] Qwerty: Checking
[20:59] Qwerty: I also asked another buddy to do this a few times for me
[21:00] Qwerty: that's just sick
[21:01] Qwerty: Uniques: Pageviews: Hits: Transfer:
Today 2 9 81 11.88 GB
[21:01] RJ: I'm pretty sure I didnt dl that much just now
[21:01] RJ: **** I wish I could
[21:01] RJ: but I didn't :\None of us (3) had even downloaded more than 5MB (one of them has a 600KB to 1MB/s download).



I will probably provide more responses and replies from the Servage support ticket, depending on how it will be resolved by the higher authorities (Admins) of Servage.

[21:04] Qwerty: Ok.
[21:04] Qwerty: Do this 20 times
[21:04] Qwerty: but this time
[21:04] Qwerty: cancel 3 seconds later (half-quick seconds)
[21:04] RJ: ??
[21:05] Qwerty: I'm repeating the test, but this time you're the only one participating in this test and I'm monitoring the bandwidth usage almost dynamically
[21:06] RJ: one...
[21:06] RJ: two...
[21:06] RJ: 3 :\
[21:06] RJ: 4
[21:07] RJ: 5.. (is it necessary to go to 20? :-P)
[21:07] Qwerty: yup
[21:07] RJ: well I just did #6
[21:07] Qwerty: increase before-cancel time to 5 half-quick seconds :P
[21:07] RJ: hmm?
[21:07] Qwerty: thing just went up a GB
[21:08] RJ: I'll just do one up to 3 MB...
[21:08] RJ: only getting 250 KB/sec atm
[21:08] RJ: and that was #7
[21:09] RJ: how much did it jump on #7?
[21:11] Qwerty: good heavens
[21:12] Qwerty: 5gb
[21:12] Qwerty: it jumped up 5gb
[21:12] RJ: for just #7?
[21:12] Qwerty: for 7 runs, jumped up 6gb to 7gb total
[21:13] RJ: how big is the file... like 700 MB?
[21:13] RJ: I'm gonna do one more... I'll tell you when I cancel...
[21:14] Qwerty: ya
[21:14] Qwerty: It's a 700mb file
[21:14] RJ: ok
[21:14] RJ: canceled...
[21:14] RJ: how much did it go up?
[21:15] Qwerty: none
[21:15] RJ: I dled 10 MB that time :\
[21:17] Qwerty: Uniques: Pageviews: Hits: Transfer:
Today 2 9 90 18.30 GB

IRC Server: irc.gamesurge.net
Channels: #mapping, #help
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Channel: #mapping
[21:24] * Now talking in #mapping
[21:24] * Topic is '1{[ 10Half-Life mapping channel 1][ 10WHEN ASKING FOR MAPPING HELP: Please state which game you are mapping for. OR, for VHE/HWE related questions, state which version you are using 1]}'
[21:24] * Set by Slim.NY.US.GameSurge.net on Wed Aug 22 13:06:02
[21:24] * ChanServ sets mode: +v Qwerty^
[21:24] -ChanServ- (#mapping) This channel is for Half-Life and Half-Life 2 mapping, but we're mostly dedicated to the mod Sven Co-op (http://www.svencoop.com)
[21:24] -Rebecca- DON'T FORGET TO READ THE RULES: http://koti.mbnet.fi/jjmail/rules.htm
[21:25] <Qwerty^> Hey, who is alive?
[21:27] <Raeven0> Nada. Todos son muertos.
[21:28] <Qwerty^> I need to find a channel of alive and co-operative people
[21:29] <Raeven0> Por que'
[21:30] <omii> define cooperative
[21:32] <Qwerty^> I donno, like starting a download on http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?p=4746491#post4746491, cancelling it a few seconds after starting it successfully, and looping the process a few times.
[21:32] <Qwerty^> Within under 5 minutes, I was able to get 2 buddies of mine to spike my bandwidth meter in my Servage control panel up by 7GB+
[21:32] <Qwerty^> All this is being documented (much of it already has been)
[21:33] <Qwerty^> er
[21:33] <Qwerty^> http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/TheBigOneSCv2.exe
[21:33] <Qwerty^> (other link was link to documentation)
[21:33] <Qwerty^> I'm investigating one of my other webhosts of bandwidth fraud
[21:33] <Qwerty^> and I'll do this till I get my demands, or I will do my utmost to expose
[21:35] <Qwerty^> [Current total bandwidth usage this month is: 577.56GB] [Today 2 9 90 18.30GB {Day, Uniques, Pageviews, Hits, and Transfer respetively}]
[21:50] * Raeven0 is now known as Rae|shower
[21:51] <omii> what
[21:52] <Qwerty^> [Current total bandwidth usage this month is: 580.54GB] [Today 2 14 100 21.28GB {Day, Uniques, Pageviews, Hits, and Transfer respetively}]
[21:53] <omii> what does that mean
[21:53] <omii> and why is this important
[21:54] <Qwerty^> Evidence against Servage.net for bandwidth fraud.
[21:55] <Qwerty^> [Current total bandwidth usage this month is: 581.97GB] [Today 2 14 102 22.71GB {Day, Uniques, Pageviews, Hits, and Transfer respetively}]
[21:59] <Qwerty^> [Current total bandwidth usage this month is: 589.11GB] [Today 2 14 112 29.85GB {Day, Uniques, Pageviews, Hits, and Transfer respetively}]
[22:06] <omii> uh
[22:06] <omii> how do you know they're committing bandwidth fraud
[22:06] <Qwerty^> Easily
[22:07] * JPolito[scorching] is now known as JPolito
[22:07] <Qwerty^> I pay attention to small details, have an excellent background in this area, and happened to notice that bluetoast.org's bandwidth doesn't reconcile with HLRSE's stats
[22:07] * JPolito has quit IRC (Quit: ~)
[22:08] <Qwerty^> If you're serious about finding out how there is no doubt the chance Servage is committing bandwidth fraud..
[22:08] <omii> hmm
[22:08] <Qwerty^> Then take some time to read into http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?p=4746491, starting at Post #38
[22:17] <Qwerty^> Test is over (was over about 15 minutes ago)

Channel: #help
[21:25] * Now talking in #help
[21:25] * Topic is 'Welcome to the GameSurge Help Channel. Please state your problem and someone will help you. | #support for Channels, AuthServ and other GameSurge service help.'
[21:25] * Set by Slim.NY.US.GameSurge.net on Fri Apr 20 12:51:59
[21:25] -ChanServ- (#Help) to register your authserv account please use http://www.gamesurge.net/createaccount/
[21:29] <Qwerty^> Where can I find a channel full of live and co-operative people?
[21:29] <rob``> lol
[21:29] <cyberdeath> Hi
[21:29] <Qwerty^> I need to run an experiment
[21:29] <cyberdeath> ?
[21:29] <Qwerty^> I'm investigating servage.net of bandwidth fraud.
[21:29] <rob``> im in 80 channels and none of them are very active
[21:29] <cyberdeath> ...ok
[21:30] <rob``> scorehero is prolly the most active and all they talk about is gh
[21:30] <Qwerty^> I need a few people to start a download on http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/TheBigOneSCv2.exe and cancel it a few seconds after it started; then loop the process a few times.
[21:30] <cyberdeath> ...the reason?
[21:30] <Qwerty^> In just under 5 minutes, I was able to get two people to spike my bandwidth meter in my Servage control panel up by about 7GB
[21:30] <Qwerty^> using that method
[21:31] <Qwerty^> I want to make this more obvious and clear, and to show that I didn't just try this with a few buddies in my list
[21:31] * cyberdeath has 56k =P
[21:31] <Qwerty^> Documentation can be found at http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?p=4746491#post4746491
[21:31] <cyberdeath> but interestingly enough, I have a work network at my disposal.
[21:32] <cyberdeath> let me read that site first
[21:32] <cyberdeath> and then I'll jump in
[21:33] * DEADLYCREW|eviLz has joined #help
[21:33] <DEADLYCREW|eviLz> how do u change the greeting to a channel?
[21:33] * DEADLYCREW|eviLz has quit IRC (Quit)
[21:34] <cyberdeath> =[
[21:34] <cyberdeath> 4 seconds to respond.....
[21:35] * DEADLYCREW|eviLz has joined #help
[21:35] <DEADLYCREW|eviLz> how do u change the greeting to your channel?
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[21:35] <Qwerty^> [Current total bandwidth usage this month is: 577.56GB] [Today 2 9 90 18.30GB {Day, Uniques, Pageviews, Hits, and Transfer respetively}]
[21:38] * rob`` has left #help
[21:40] * MrJd is now known as mrjd
[21:41] <DEADLYCREW|eviLz> #deadlycrew picking up chill but GOOD players
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[21:45] <cyberdeath> still there Qwerty^
[21:45] <cyberdeath> ?
[21:45] <Qwerty^> yup
[21:46] <cyberdeath> how many times do you want me to do it?
[21:46] <Qwerty^> As many times you feel comfortable (give me a number of how many times though)
[21:47] <cyberdeath> I could setup an automation to do it ;]
[21:47] <cyberdeath> heh =P
[21:47] <Qwerty^> Everything is being logged and documented. =P
[21:47] <cyberdeath> so that's not a problem
[21:47] <Qwerty^> Eh
[21:47] <cyberdeath> but yeah
[21:47] <cyberdeath> I'm just teasing ;]
[21:47] <cyberdeath> Twice thus far
[21:47] <cyberdeath> 3
[21:48] <cyberdeath> Downloaded ~1mb first time, 3mb 2nd, and 2 mb the 3rd time
[21:48] <cyberdeath> want me to keep going ;p ?
[21:48] <Qwerty^> Hmm, keep going
[21:48] * BOVICESMONEYCREWtyger has joined #help
[21:49] <BOVICESMONEYCREWtyger> !trim user 1d
[21:49] <cyberdeath> Connection closed at byte 918051. Retrying.
[21:49] <BOVICESMONEYCREWtyger> what's the actual command
[21:49] <cyberdeath> it's !trim users 1d
[21:49] <cyberdeath> to trim all users who have been inactive 1 day
[21:49] <BOVICESMONEYCREWtyger> ty
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[21:50] <Qwerty^> lol
[21:50] <Qwerty^> [Current total bandwidth usage this month is: 580.54GB] [Today 2 14 100 21.28GB {Day, Uniques, Pageviews, Hits, and Transfer respetively}]
[21:51] <Qwerty^> an impressive 4GB
[21:51] <cyberdeath> 5 times thus far
[21:51] <cyberdeath> and since the file is 730
[21:52] <cyberdeath> ...That sounds about right
[21:52] <cyberdeath> as though I've downloaded the entire file.
[21:52] <cyberdeath> That company is using a very shoddy way of measuring bandwidth
[21:52] <Qwerty^> ;)
[21:52] <Qwerty^> I'm the kind of person that notices small details
[21:52] <cyberdeath> through having each HTTP GET add up the entire file.
[21:52] <Qwerty^> I'm not going to let Servage get away with my $50 for this
[21:52] <cyberdeath> to your bandwidth usage
[21:53] <cyberdeath> I agree =P
[21:53] * cyberdeath does as well ;]
[21:54] <cyberdeath> 6 times so far.
[21:54] <cyberdeath> I've downloaded
[21:54] <cyberdeath> I haven't gone over 3MB
[21:55] <cyberdeath> 7
[21:55] <Qwerty^> [Current total bandwidth usage this month is: 581.97GB] [Today 2 14 102 22.71GB {Day, Uniques, Pageviews, Hits, and Transfer respetively}]
[21:56] <cyberdeath> 11
[21:57] <Qwerty^> bandwidth meter updates slowly
[21:57] <Qwerty^> even thought I click update
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[21:57] <Qwerty^> It seems to update a few GBs at a time
[21:58] <cyberdeath> 16
[21:58] <Qwerty^> haha
[21:58] <Qwerty^> whoa
[21:58] <Qwerty^> a grand spanking 8gb
[21:59] <cyberdeath> 20
[21:59] <Qwerty^> [Current total bandwidth usage this month is: 589.11GB] [Today 2 14 112 29.85GB {Day, Uniques, Pageviews, Hits, and Transfer respetively}]
[21:59] <cyberdeath> do you need the logs?
[21:59] <Qwerty^> Yes, please.
[21:59] <cruz> how do i get the latest windows updates on a pc that has no internet connection :o
[22:00] <Qwerty^> 60mb downloaded, and 11.55GB added on top of the bandwidth meter. Really no new uniques or pageviews, just a few hits from the same user.
[22:01] <cyberdeath> I have exact file sizes too
[22:01] <cyberdeath> what email address?
[22:01] <Qwerty^> admin@hlrse.net



Private Messages from cyberdeath:
[22:01] <cyberdeath> I actually forgot to log from the beginning
[22:01] <cyberdeath> so it clipped one of the commands
[22:02] <cyberdeath> but it should get the point across.
[22:02] <Qwerty^> ok
[22:06] <cyberdeath> email sent
[22:07] <Qwerty^> Thank you. =]
[22:07] <cyberdeath> You're welcome.
[22:08] <cyberdeath> I did that from work btw =P
[22:08] <cyberdeath> Just in case you're wondering.
[22:08] <Qwerty^> :]
[22:09] <Qwerty^> =P
[22:09] <Qwerty^> You must be slackin' off, eh?
[22:09] <cyberdeath> Nah
[22:09] <cyberdeath> I'm at home
[22:09] <cyberdeath> about to sleep
[22:09] <Qwerty^> Ah.
[22:09] <Qwerty^> Remote access?
[22:09] <cyberdeath> yeah
[22:09] * cyberdeath is the IT Guy ;]
[22:09] <Qwerty^> Beautiful stuff. ;)
[22:09] <cyberdeath> public school system
[22:09] <Qwerty^> hahah
[22:09] <cyberdeath> well, "division"
[22:09] <Qwerty^> I'm 16 years old here.
[22:09] <Qwerty^> Been in this "division" of life for over 5 years
[22:10] <cyberdeath> Gives a totally different meaning then ;]
[22:10] <Qwerty^> And in the "division" of computers since the age of 5.
[22:10] <cyberdeath> Hehe ;)
[22:10] <cyberdeath> now you're probably thinking "how can I hack my school system remotely!"
[22:10] <cyberdeath> :-o
[22:10] <Qwerty^> Do you want any part of this private message convo to be censored?
[22:11] <cyberdeath> Why/
[22:11] <cyberdeath> ?
[22:11] <Qwerty^> It's all being publically documented in that thread
[22:11] <Qwerty^> So that it isn't a secret
[22:11] <cyberdeath> I don't think there's anything that "private"
[22:11] <Qwerty^> Ok.
[22:11] <cyberdeath> I work in the public sector
[22:11] * cyberdeath is used to it
[22:12] <cyberdeath> even my last job it was a public sector job
[22:12] <cyberdeath> err, minus the it
[22:12] <cyberdeath> even my last job was a public sector job
[22:12] <cyberdeath> ^*
[22:14] <cyberdeath> anyway, when it comes to sharing all this information
[22:14] <cyberdeath> I ask that you had the last two octects of my IP address
[22:14] <cyberdeath> if you post information like that
[22:15] <cyberdeath> err that you hide*
[22:15] * cyberdeath is obviously very tired
[22:15] <Qwerty^> ok
[22:15] <Qwerty^> I'll make sure of that
[22:15] <cyberdeath> so it would be 123.123.*.*
[22:15] <cyberdeath> ;]
[22:15] <cyberdeath> Thanks :]
[22:16] <cyberdeath> gimme an updated link when ya post it too :]
[22:16] <Qwerty^> Will do. Working on the reply as we speak
[22:16] <cyberdeath> ok =P

E-mail from cyberdeath:
Qwerty^,

As you requested (logs from October 9, 2007 @ approximately 11:05PM ET):

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sboproxy2:~/bin/temp # wget http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/TheBigOneSCv2.exe
--22:41:29-- http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/TheBigOneSCv2.exe
=> `TheBigOneSCv2.exe.6'
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sboproxy2:~/bin/temp # wget http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/TheBigOneSCv2.exe
--22:42:01-- http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/TheBigOneSCv2.exe
=> `TheBigOneSCv2.exe.7'
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sboproxy2:~/bin/temp # wget http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/TheBigOneSCv2.exe
--22:42:14-- http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/TheBigOneSCv2.exe
=> `TheBigOneSCv2.exe.8'
Resolving www.bluetoast.org... 77.232.xxx.xxx
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sboproxy2:~/bin/temp # wget http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/TheBigOneSCv2.exe
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--22:42:25-- http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/TheBigOneSCv2.exe
=> `TheBigOneSCv2.exe.9'
Resolving www.bluetoast.org... 77.232.xxx.xxx
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sboproxy2:~/bin/temp # wget http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/TheBigOneSCv2.exe
--22:43:05-- http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/TheBigOneSCv2.exe
=> `TheBigOneSCv2.exe.10'
Resolving www.bluetoast.org... 77.232.xxx.xxx
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sboproxy2:~/bin/temp # wget http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/TheBigOneSCv2.exe
--22:43:51-- http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/TheBigOneSCv2.exe
=> `TheBigOneSCv2.exe.11'
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sboproxy2:~/bin/temp # wget http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/TheBigOneSCv2.exe
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--22:43:59-- http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/TheBigOneSCv2.exe
=> `TheBigOneSCv2.exe.12'
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sboproxy2:~/bin/temp # wget http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/TheBigOneSCv2.exe
--22:44:03-- http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/TheBigOneSCv2.exe
=> `TheBigOneSCv2.exe.13'
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sboproxy2:~/bin/temp #
sboproxy2:~/bin/temp # wget http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/TheBigOneSCv2.exe
--22:44:08-- http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/TheBigOneSCv2.exe
=> `TheBigOneSCv2.exe.14'
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sboproxy2:~/bin/temp # wget http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/TheBigOneSCv2.exe
--22:44:15-- http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/TheBigOneSCv2.exe
=> `TheBigOneSCv2.exe.15'
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sboproxy2:~/bin/temp # wget http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/TheBigOneSCv2.exe
--22:44:58-- http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/TheBigOneSCv2.exe
=> `TheBigOneSCv2.exe.16'
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sboproxy2:~/bin/temp # wget http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/TheBigOneSCv2.exe
--22:45:08-- http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/TheBigOneSCv2.exe
=> `TheBigOneSCv2.exe.17'
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sboproxy2:~/bin/temp # wget http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/TheBigOneSCv2.exe
--22:45:18-- http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/TheBigOneSCv2.exe
=> `TheBigOneSCv2.exe.18'
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sboproxy2:~/bin/temp # wget http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/TheBigOneSCv2.exe
--22:45:26-- http://www.bluetoast.org/files/Map%20Packs/TheBigOneSCv2.exe
=> `TheBigOneSCv2.exe.19'
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sboproxy2:~/bin/temp # ll
total 19324
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 848 Oct 9 22:45 .
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