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albert789
06-29-2007, 06:49 AM
I just want to let you know, these people are scam, keep clear of them.

fionix
06-29-2007, 07:37 AM
Please explain further, your post make no sense without details. :)

albert789
06-29-2007, 07:56 AM
It is a common story among all the post here, you process with them, they took the money never reply to email or phonecall, and you cant do anything. I just want to post it here, so that people will not be burn by them.

Formpay
06-29-2007, 06:25 PM
If your looking for a legitimate offshore option, i would recommend First Atlantic.

the-truth
07-02-2007, 09:34 PM
Same here they had a a very shady practice worked with them for a month or 2 then boom lost all my money no fun at all but what can you do if you can't get a hold of them?

Risky Remedy
07-22-2007, 02:24 PM
Risk Remedies stole $14.000 from my account which I am trying to recover.

I have taken out a web domain called riskremedies.net

If anyone else has been scammed by these crooks please visit the site and leave details of your losses just to alert others that may sign with them.

cdgcommerce
07-22-2007, 02:30 PM
The really unfortunate part is that I have seen where some of these scammers actually hop from one business to another. They start up one high risk processing business, steal a bunch of money, shut down and then months later - repeat the process again under a different set of names. :(

Risky Remedy
07-22-2007, 03:34 PM
The really unfortunate part is that I have seen where some of these scammers actually hop from one business to another. They start up one high risk processing business, steal a bunch of money, shut down and then months later - repeat the process again under a different set of names. :(


This is the problem.

Somehow through forums such as this we must alert on-line or prospective on-line merchants to research into the company records of beneficiary directors.
If names such as Amaury Martinez and Joshua Evans turn up then we would know they are scammers and avoid them.

cdgcommerce
07-22-2007, 03:36 PM
Or - even a flipside perspective - such as a directory established by independent parties that list the GOOD and REPUTABLE offshore and high risk processors.

I only say this because in all likelihood, these fraudsters would just sign up and establish a business in a 3rd party's name and no longer use their actual names once that method was used as a way of "discovering" them.

It might be easier to just maintain a list of certified "good" high risk processors than to try to continually maintain a long list of the "bad" ones.

Risky Remedy
07-22-2007, 04:08 PM
It might be easier to just maintain a list of certified "good" high risk processors than to try to continually maintain a long list of the "bad" ones.

This is very true.

I notice from the advertisement at the top of this forum there is a promotion for Chronopay.
I still have my account with Chronopay who I cannot speak more highly of.
Chronopay are a very efficient and very "up front" and honest. It was only because they were not able to offer a MasterCard option I had to look for an account that would offer the option of MasterCard.

I was introduced to Risk Remedies by National Bankcard Systems of Durango who I believe to be a bona fida broker and did offer some assistance.

Risk Remedies are the first American company I have had any dealings with so to be immediately conned out of $14.000 leaves a rather sour taste.

fionix
07-23-2007, 02:55 AM
The idea with an independent list would be great if someone would do that, but I guess it should be someone that put some effort into it and really make a good review of each company they list. The Adult industry has something similar and that works pretty good. I do know that this also has some costs involved but I don’t know how you should get them covered.

Finally you don't have to forget that in most cases it would help a lot if there was more evidence behind all the claims that pull up on all those forums and much more details about each case. It is very difficult to see if there is some substance in the claim or if it is just someone that want to put bad reputation on a company. To make that happened it would also be a really good idea to have some one to build something that goes in details and to be a reliable source.

Biju
07-23-2007, 04:09 AM
The really unfortunate part is that I have seen where some of these scammers actually hop from one business to another. They start up one high risk processing business, steal a bunch of money, shut down and then months later - repeat the process again under a different set of names. :(

yea well said and it is hard to find these type of scammers.

Risky Remedy
07-23-2007, 04:40 AM
Finally you don't have to forget that in most cases it would help a lot if there was more evidence behind all the claims that pull up on all those forums and much more details about each case. It is very difficult to see if there is some substance in the claim or if it is just someone that want to put bad reputation on a company.

Your argument has a lot of merit fionix. I totally agree that any malicious person could malign another person or company on fora such as these.
I briefly documented my claims against Risk Remedies and their VerifiedOrder payment gateway in the web page www.riskremedies.net to go some way to warning others of the danger of associating with this highly dubious company.

To make a person or company go to the lengths of taking out a web-site and pay for web hosting to highlight their own misfortune and to warn others to be very careful must be a good indication that there must be some substance to the claims being made

As previously mentioned I have a law firm investigating the possibilty of taking action against RiskRemedies so it probably would not be wise to publish too many documents that would prejudice my case.

I was drawn to WebHostingTalk Forums because a google search revealed that others too claim to have had money stolen by RiskRemedies. Hopefully any others who have lost money with RiskRemedies may search like I did and come across this topic.

If others have lost money to RiskRemedies please contact me through the email address at the bottom of the web-page I created at www.riskremedies.net with a view to proceed with a class action against RiskRemedies.
A court action against RiskRemedies would be far more potent with more than one claimant taking out the action and of course the costs of the action would be shared.

In my view it is essential to get these rogue companies shut down or prosecuted for their actions. Remember RiskRemedies bank on the fact that the merchant is operating an adult site, on-line gaming or a pharmacy business and would not wish to bring any public action. I hope to prove them wrong.

the-truth
07-23-2007, 04:28 PM
These are Numbers you can get a hold of them with will try to hide I work for a data research company which are going to take actions against Amaury Martinez soledad martinez and Josh Evens

Risk Remedies
Amaury Martinez (amaurym AT valuedguest DOT com)
+1.3055724040
Fax:
4500 Palm Sable Road
Miami, Florida 33137
US

soledad martinez
1717 north bayshore dr
miami, Florida 33132
United States

Geded, Armando geded AT verifiedorder DOT com
Verifiedorder SA de CV
37 no 170-L x 26
Valladolid, Yucatan 97780
Mexico
9981854160 Fax --

Risky Remedy
07-23-2007, 06:36 PM
These are Numbers you can get a hold of them with will try to hide I work for a data research company which are going to take actions against Amaury Martinez soledad martinez and Josh Evens

Risk Remedies
Amaury Martinez (amaurym AT valuedguest DOT com)
+1.3055724040
Fax:
4500 Palm Sable Road
Miami, Florida 33137
US

soledad martinez
1717 north bayshore dr
miami, Florida 33132
United States

Geded, Armando geded AT verifiedorder DOT com
Verifiedorder SA de CV
37 no 170-L x 26
Valladolid, Yucatan 97780
Mexico
9981854160 Fax --

Thanks for that information.

Of course when you call and they realise it is one of their clients they have stolen money from, they hang up straight away.

Although RiskRemedies are using the HSBC bank and their connection in Valladolid Yucatan the contract you sign with them comes under the legal jurisdiction of Mexico city. The action I am preparing to take against them is being handled by a law firm in Mexico city.

Just out of interest, what sort of action are you taking out against them?

Risky Remedy
07-30-2007, 10:59 AM
This is posted into another topic but it should really be located in this thread.

Since publishing www.riskremedies.net (http://www.riskremedies.net/) I have received a number of emails from Risk Remedies clients who have been cheated out of various amounts of money.
Most have a similar story that the agreed weekly pay-outs did not materialise and their accounts were summarily shut down.

Risk Remedies use another Florida based company 2ktechusa

2KTech USA, LLC.
8095 NW, 12 St., Suite 316
Miami, Florida 33126
Ph: (305) 470-9919
Fax: (305) 470-9928



This company writes the software for RiskRemedies payment gateway so therefore are probably implicated in the harvesting of customer email and shutting down merchants accounts when their money has been taken.



Their web URL is www.2ktechusa.com (http://www.2ktechusa.com/) but you will be very lucky to find them up and running.

They must still be working with RiskRemedies because the Verified Order administration panel
http://66.175.114.188/IPGWeb/

is still working for the RiskRemedies accounts that are yet to be pillaged.

Merchants that have already had their money stolen will find their username and password will no longer allow them to login and see the transactions and accounts history at the above address.

I have noticed with great pleasure that in just one week google has placed www.riskremedies.net (http://www.riskremedies.net/) right underneath the entry for Risk Remedies so if the cost of a domain name and hosting will shut down this unscrupulous bunch of thieves and their associates it's almost worth the $14000 they conned me for.

Corey Bryant
07-30-2007, 01:07 PM
Since this company seems to be a United States provider, I will post the same information here as I have on the other one.
All United States merchant account providers must have a proper footer.

Take a look at CDG Commerce (http://www.cdgcommerce.com/) website and their footer
Copyright © 2004-2007 CDGcommerce, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
CDGcommerce is a registered ISO/MSP for Merrick Bank, Salt Lake City, UT.
this tells you who the bank is and if they are an ISO/MSP or agent.

If you do not see this information, then immediately choose another provider. Around 2000 or so, merchant account providers were popping up everywhere, saying they will let you process with no problems etc.

Risky Remedy
07-31-2007, 08:51 PM
Since this company seems to be a United States provider, I will post the same information here as I have on the other one.
All United States merchant account providers must have a proper footer.

Take a look at CDG Commerce (http://www.cdgcommerce.com/) website and their footer

this tells you who the bank is and if they are an ISO/MSP or agent.

If you do not see this information, then immediately choose another provider. Around 2000 or so, merchant account providers were popping up everywhere, saying they will let you process with no problems etc.

Absolutly correct look up http://www.riskremedies.com/home or any other page on their site and there is no footer as Corey Bryant describes.

If only I and the other merchants that were and are still being fleeced by Riskremedies had this information we may have not fallen into the Risk Remedies con trap.

Risky Remedy
07-31-2007, 09:23 PM
More news on RiskRemedies.

I found this link on the Internet over one week ago http://newsblaze.com/story/2007071315200200001.ew/topstory.html

I contacted both Newsblaze and SignatureLink Inc. to ask why they should be promoting such a disreputable company as Risk Remedies.

Neither Newsblaze or SignatureLink Inc. have had the common courtesy to reply to a very civil communication.
Maybe they are embarrassed that they too have been hoodwinked into believing RiskRemedies are a bona fida merchant account provider.

newsblaze
11-09-2011, 09:22 AM
You are assuming, of course, that I received your message.
- which either I didn't or I responded to you, as I responded to the other people who wrote about that.
The item was a press release from another service that we work with.
So we didn't even know it was there. That's a long way from being hoodwinked into something. I don't remember exactly what happened with that release, but it looks like it was deleted a long time ago.

We welcome discussion, but its not very good that you go around saying bad things about us because we didn't respond to an email. (I get up to 500 per day, some days)

If you really cared, you could have phoned. That usually gets instant action.

Alan.