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View Full Version : REALLY professional template.
This is a professionally designed template suitable for any corporate site. Owner gets a complete site.
The package includes:
1) Ready-to-use HTML template with images
2) Splash screen
3) Free customization (menus, company name etc)
4) 7 free HTML pages (full site design) based on texts provided by you
Additionally each page can have an unique header (with different images) - 15$ per page.
The template can be viewed here:
http://www.c-studio.ru/home/special/templates/2/
The package's price is $195.
PM me or use the site's feedback:
http://www.c-studio.ru/home/special/templates/template_order.html
Thank you for your time.
Chaps 07-18-2002, 11:29 AM *cough cough* $195? I've seen waaay better templates here go for like...$60-$80. Not saying you don't have a nice template...but you'll be an extremely luck young man to get 200 bones for that.
However, I do appreciate seeing something a little fresh and not so...cheap looking. Nice ideas.
kcdworks 07-18-2002, 11:59 AM Umm ... his design is really nice, and it's not really a template ... read again:
The package includes:
1) Ready-to-use HTML template with images
2) Splash screen
3) Free customization (menus, company name etc)
5) 7 free HTML pages (full site design) based on texts provided by you
Pay attention to number 3 and number 5 ... full site design and customization. (What happened to number 4?)
$200 is more than fair, IMO.
PixelAxis 07-18-2002, 12:02 PM The template alone is hardly worth $50 but the entire package could be valued around $175.
alchiba 07-18-2002, 12:19 PM I think the design is very good and the package/pricing is just right. To me (as a design customer and not a designer) it's a very good offering.
Originally posted by Chaps
I've seen waaay better templates here go for like...$60-$80.
Not saying you don't have a nice template...but you'll be an extremely luck young man to get 200 bones for that.
When you order a quality design/site in some professional studio - is there any chance to get it for less than $200-300? I would say NO. And these templates we can see on WHT are NOT really professional. They aren't bad, but mostly produced by beginners. Of course there were several realy good ones... there were times when I saw templates by NetXL which were pretty good and professional.
I think you got to understand that professional designs are mostly clean and w/o these popular photoshop's effects etc. Style - is the thing that forms the price of the design.
Originally posted by Chaps
However, I do appreciate seeing something a little fresh and not so...cheap looking. Nice ideas.
thanks. We have another one in development.
I wanna say that common image of the design industry is "pay-for-the effect applied". This is completely wrong. You should pay for
1) idea of the design
2) style and professionalism
These are things that cost $. And today everyone who has a book "Photoshop step by step" says he's a designer, but he's not.
Chang Lee 07-18-2002, 03:42 PM well said, cas !!!!
just as in our day-to-day lives... better stuff is generally more expensive... not always though, but quite often !!!
Chaps 07-18-2002, 03:51 PM I apologize...though I was never meant to sound degrading.
Sorry for not reading closer...when I'm at work, I skim and click...have other things I SHOULD be doing...like designing websites...but the view is so pwetty from my office! hehe...anyways, after reviewing the FULL request, I agree that $200 is actually very reasonable. My bad. :)
Global-Host2 07-18-2002, 03:55 PM Try adding more graphics.
Originally posted by Global-Host2
Try adding more graphics.
Why I don't want to see more graphics in this design:
This one loads extremely fast, it's easy to navigate, menus are easy to find - they are not covered with shadows or inner/outer effects etc. Even these small links, "about" & "contacts" are easy to find, cause there's a lot of white space around them. Why didn't I make them bigger? Because they have to be found by visitors (I'm serious). The one is really satisfied when he explores the site and finds elements that others would probably not find (does he know the design was made the way that each visitor will see these elements?). He enjoys browsing the site noticing details. This is called usability.
Of course there can be added more details if the owner needs some – free of charge, and each page can have different header, but there shouldn't be too much graphics. This is a clean and fast design… btw, it would be probably suitable for hosting companies, cause average visitor will be extremely impressed by the speed of the site load.
FDrive 07-18-2002, 05:30 PM Very nice work. I think $195 is more than fair, especially with all of the customizations.
m3trans1t 07-19-2002, 01:12 AM you've pretty much insulted the designers in here by calling their work "mostly unprofessional" and "beginner level."
these are my views:
- the words about & contact are practically unreadable unless you're 1 ft away from my 19" monitor screen and the font isn't sharp enough to show the words clearly. yup, I can find it easily, I just see two blobs.
- the menu text isn't sharp enough and makes it hard to read quickly.
- body text size is too small. if you're professional, you'd know that people scan through text instead of reading all of it and small text makes it even harder to scan & read so they'll probably ignore the chunk of text all together.
- white space is okay, colors help identify various different sections and enables the user to easily separate one section from the other.
- clean doesn't mean lack of graphics
- the page doesn't look right at 1024x768
Originally posted by m3trans1t
you've pretty much insulted the designers in here by calling their work "mostly unprofessional" and "beginner level."
yeah, maybe. But I said *mostly* that doesn't mean all.
Originally posted by m3trans1t
- the words about & contact are practically unreadable unless you're 1 ft away from my 19" monitor screen and the font isn't sharp enough to show the words clearly. yup, I can find it easily, I just see two blobs.
- the menu text isn't sharp enough and makes it hard to read quickly.
They look OK and readable on "17 (both 1024x and 800x).
Originally posted by m3trans1t
- body text size is too small. if you're professional, you'd know that people scan through text instead of reading all of it and small text makes it even harder to scan & read so they'll probably ignore the chunk of text all together.
this is a sample text. It's in graphics and final variant will be in HTML, it won't have anti-aliasing and will be a bit larger - easy to read.
Originally posted by m3trans1t
- clean doesn't mean lack of graphics
Agreed. Depends on what we refer to "graphics".
Originally posted by m3trans1t
- the page doesn't look right at 1024x768
Oh, just forgot to check it :). Fixed in 2 minutes.
I'm really sorry if I insulted you personally.
dgessler 07-19-2002, 09:08 PM I also think it's a great design, I just wanted to let you know if the text on the splash screen was suppose to be readable, i certainly can't read it. And I can barely read the about and contact text sizes, and I'm not an old geiser with bad sight and I personally like small text, but I think it's gone a little too far..
I also think it's a great design thanks ;).
Oh, the text under the "COMPANY NAME" is a decoration and it's not supposed to be readable.
OK, I've changed about/contacts to something a bit bigger. I left the splash unchanged (as you may notice, there are about/contacts urls too) because they are more decorations than menus there.
Thanks for letting me know... but I still can see the small text perfect on my second monitor Samsung 700 IFT :).
dgessler 07-19-2002, 10:57 PM Err, sorry, maybe it was the new video card I stuffed in yesterday, I noticed my computer was showing signs of being a little visually impaired after I posted. I'll have to fix this..
In addition to my first post:
You may order any type of custom design. Contact me to get a quote.
A new template is about to be released! Bright colors, awesome, professional design! Don’t miss it!
Suitable for a hosting company or any other >medium company which wants to show its prosperity & quality, for those who pay attention to details. It'll be available soon!
I'll put it online in several hours & post a new thread on Tuesday.
Thanks.
aingaran 07-21-2002, 04:08 PM I'm no professional designer by any stretch of the imagination...
But, I sure as hell have seen a lot better designs in here for less than what you charge.
I can do what you did in about 10 mins. (And I'm not even a 'web designer/ developer...' Just some regular shmuck who browses the web and plays around with his computer.)
Stop insulting the other posters of the board..
Please get off your high horse, cause this template IS NOT better than what a lot of other "NON PROFESSIONALS" have submitted for a lot cheaper.
On 800 x 600, you can barely read the text on the main page...
Samuel 07-21-2002, 04:27 PM It's a very nice template and unique, it stands out, that is clear.
It would take me more than 10 minutes to create that =), and I'm a professional mortisor.
This offer is a very good one, those that are stating it is not don't obviously do this for a living =)
Customization means conversation to understand what the customer wants, that alone can take 3 days MINIMUM, so get your facts straight, its a good offer.
Originally posted by aingaran
But, I sure as hell have seen a lot better designs in here for less than what you charge.
You must be the one who pays per Photoshop's "effects-aplied". OK, then just don't order this template.
Originally posted by aingaran
I can do what you did in about 10 mins. (And I'm not even a 'web designer/ developer...' Just some regular shmuck who browses the web and plays around with his computer.)
Well, go ahead. By the way, I can *copy* any other 'better' design (that you saw on WHT) in 10-15 minutes too. Try to make something special, unique and you'll see how much time will it take. And remember this price is for a package.
Originally posted by aingaran
Stop insulting the other posters of the board..
Please get off your high horse, cause this template IS NOT better than what a lot of other "NON PROFESSIONALS" have submitted for a lot cheaper.
First of all, professionals who are sure that thier work is professional don't sell it cheap or cheaper :). And did I really insult somebody? I said *mostly* that doesn't mean *all* at all :). There are several very good designers here, but *mostly* we can see here $25-$50 offers for a PSD file. Tell me I'm wrong.
Originally posted by aingaran
On 800 x 600, you can barely read the text on the main page...
I said couple of times that 'THIS IS A SAMPLE'. You'd better read before post.
Originally posted by Samuel
Customization means conversation to understand what the customer wants, that alone can take 3 days MINIMUM...
Yeah, that's right.
I don't know what the hell is wrong with all you people. Here is yet another thread hijacked and turned into a combination site review/discussion about market pricing. All these superfluous comments should either not be posted, or sent by PM. Reason? Out of basic respect for the original poster, the thread and for the forum that allows us to sell our services.
I normally bite my tongue as I read thread after thread taken off their tracks because of inappropriate posts. But some days (like today), it really ticks me off.
Do you like the design but need to spend a little less? PM the man. Maybe he can do something for you. Think it needs more graphics? PM and ask if he would consider adding more. Think it sucks? Don't buy it! There are lots of other templates out there for you to consider. What is the point of making these comments in the thread? Do you honestly think it is helping caS?
And you guys have the nerve to actually sound hostile about "how high" the price is. Instead, what you really should be uptight about are the $25 templates sold here day in and day out. Those are the ones that are prostituting the industry. Those are the ones that are throwing "reasonable and respectable" pricing out the window.
Armchair critics: If you really feel the need to critique a design, you can get your fix at http://www.webhostingtalk.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=10 . There are all kinds of people begging for your comments.
Market pricing gurus: Start your own thread at http://www.webhostingtalk.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=8 and and have a go at it. Don't tear caS's thread apart with drivel. Let the man try to sell his services. After all, that's what the forum is for, right??
caS, good luck selling the template. I hope you find a good home for it...
Vito
Thank you, Vito.
It's great that there are some people who still understand what's going on...
You read my mind... especially about those... what's the nice way to say... well, those *guys* :mad: dumping the market with their prices. *Mostly* their works cost as much as they ask (those $25), but they form a common image of the industry, of it's prices etc...
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