Hello!
Can you please suggest me a good Australian based Hosting company.

Thanks

http://www.avs.net.au/
http://www.myacen.com/
http://www.aussiehosts.com/


and there is more.. just a matter of finding them... actually.. checkout http://www.ozhostingtalk.com/

there is also aussiebob's company www.httpme.com and there is another member here dotcomz or something like that who I also believe in in AU.

-Steven

www.ultraserve.com.au
www.dedicatedservers.com.au

Actually host you in Australia too.

As in Australian based host, do you mean you want your website to be located on Australia servers? Utilizing australian based bandwidth?

Because, avs, myacen and httpme don't..

Aussiehosts do, and Gary is very helpful..

Originally posted by edude
As in Australian based host, do you mean you want your website to be located on Australia servers? Utilizing australian based bandwidth?

Because, avs, myacen and httpme don't..
Thank god for that. :D

another aussie host is ozhosting.com. never used them but they don't look cheap!

lol Aussie Bob, it really depends on your requirements, most businesses will opt to go with hosting based in Australia.. etc..

But for personal sites its just a way toooo expensive option to host in AU.

Well, I have yet to find as decent a data center in Australia as Rackspace. That's why we don't place our servers in Australia.

The best australian host is http://www.surrenderonline.com.au
We corporate with them with no problem at all
They are one of the best .

Originally posted by edude
lol Aussie Bob, it really depends on your requirements, most businesses will opt to go with hosting based in Australia.. etc..
I don't really know why. You can pull up a website just as fast from Australia when it's hosted in the USA anyways. You just get the option of paying rediculously high prices for the privilege of pulling your code from servers based in Australia.

It will never be just as fast Bob. There's a 150-250ms trans pacific hop there that will make sure of that. Even in a worse case scenario, with a mid-level ISP here with a sat uplink in the US or Asia, their incoming traffic is generally over local land lines. It all boils down to the clients' specific needs. We've got clients who run their own mailservers or route their mail through one of our US servers, but serve their content up locally at optimum speeds.

Cheers

Gary

Well, 150ms is nothing. I bet a site hosted on a balanced US server will load faster than a site hosted on heavily loaded site in Australia. :rolleyes:

Ping times means zilch, mate. How fast a site loads and how fast an Apache port pings are different things in different universes and dimensions. ;)

I was talking about the defined distance those packets need to travel Laurie, not ping times. The two just aren't comparable. That's not to say either one is more preferable than the other overall...it all boils down to the clients' specific needs.

Cheers

Gary

Originally posted by NexDog
Well, I have yet to find as decent a data center in Australia as Rackspace. That's why we don't place our servers in Australia.

To find that down under be expected to pay $1000+mth

Gary is right its up to the client...

Some dont believe us when you tell them your server is in a secure facility armed 24/7 etc.. Were me and Gary have a few servers in a top Notch Aussie data centre we can take them on a tour if need be, as long as they know its local/national.

Yes the Aussie clients are going to pay more for hosting in Australia and they know it and accept it. High quality local bandwidth comes at a price.

NextDog decent datacentre, are you in Sydney i can take you for a tour if you wish when i come back from my Holidays... I will show you one of the most high tech data centres ever built by a company that were experts in building and equiping datacentres around the world..

The one in Sydney is the lucky last before they went down and i must admit they left the best till last. ( Through experience of course)

Gary i did not forget to give your server a pat in the back last time i strolled by :D

Kind regards

Originally posted by Choppy
Gary i did not forget to give your server a pat in the back last time i strolled by :D

Should I be worried about that Phil...? ;)

Gary

Unfotunately I'm in Melbourne. Anyhow, we pay over a grand AU$ for our servers anyway so paying that for a server in Australia wouldn't be a biggie, Robert.

Phil, I would be very interested to learn about this Sydney facility. Could you email me or post some info about it?

Thanks!!

Phil, does the facility happen to be Global Switch?

Originally posted by NexDog
Unfotunately I'm in Melbourne. Anyhow, we pay over a grand AU$ for our servers anyway so paying that for a server in Australia wouldn't be a biggie, Robert.

Phil, I would be very interested to learn about this Sydney facility. Could you email me or post some info about it?

Thanks!!

I was referring to one server :)

I would recommend one of our competitors if you want a someone in Australia.

http://www.avs.net.au/

I know the owner and he really works hard for the money. Tell Nigel that Arf says hi.

About the DC i will post the information soon... i just have to make sure that the information i give out is not breaking any laws!

Arfarfg - why would you recommend avs, exactly???

Why would you recommend a competitor?

His service is extremly over priced and he is not hosting in Australia anyway!

What he is charging is not a problem with me since when they turn the magazine a few more pages they see my ad but im just thinking how strange it is you recommend him.

Kind regards,

eheh Gary - It was a soft imaginary pat since its aprox 2 meteres deep in a cage that i can hardly put my pinky inside LOL.

:D

Originally posted by Choppy
Arfarfg - why would you recommend avs, exactly???

Why would you recommend a competitor?

His service is extremly over priced and he is not hosting in Australia anyway!


If someone asks for something we can't provide, it's our company policy to try to help them out in finding whatever it is they need. Yesterday, I recommended an existing client go to a competitor because he needed a IIS server which we don't provide. Come to think of it, I have a client who was looking to change hosts because he wanted a host in Texas. I recommended hostcaters.com, again because I know the owner and I'm not in that state. Our company philosophy is not only about success and competition but about service.

Yes, it is strange that I might recommend a competitor. But based on the request for an Australian host which we are not, I recommended a the services of a hosting company in Australia. I'm sure there are several very good Ausie hosts, but I happen to know the owner of AVS personally. I know how hard he works for his clients and that is why I would recommend them.

We're a few thousand miles away from my servers as well. I've never seen them, touched them, or put a CD into them. Still, we have just as much access to them as the people in the next room from them. And I've never had a client that wanted a local service provider because it made them feel better knowing that the server is local as well. They're more interested in knowing that the server is secure, managed 24/7, has a high speed connection, etc.

A very few clients want/need a 'local' hosting company. When they do, it usually has more to do with the service provided by the people at the company than the location of the servers. That said, a majority of our clients are scattered around the world and only a small handful are in Illinois where we're at. For most people it would appear that location of the server is not as important as location of the hosting company.

lol Gary and Choppy..

I use Flowcom's datacenter, more information here: http://www3.flow.com.au/www/content/Products/FlowBusiness/BusinessServices/Information/facilities_management

Also, the company i work for down under hosts a few clients who run merchant services, they prefer the merchant services be run on australian based servers due to support reasons, if you are hosting your Aussie clients on U.S based servers, generally the time most U.S companies do upgrades is around peak time down under.

Originally posted by Choppy
eheh Gary - It was a soft imaginary pat since its aprox 2 meteres deep in a cage that i can hardly put my pinky inside LOL.

:D
:laugh: :D :eek: :rolleyes:

Hi, I'm Nigel from AVS Networks - http://avs.net.au. I'm the manager here at AVS.

We've looked into setting some servers up in Australia but 75% of Internet traffic comes from the US anyway. Plus when the US is in the their graveyard period, Australia is at the peak and hence get to use the bandwidth that is not being utilised at the time. I can see this being a benefit of having the servers in the US.

Just to clear up the pricing issue, I don't think our pricing is extremley over priced. Look at Australia's largest hosting company with 48,000 sites charging $38+ per month and getting hundreds of signups.

We're not after every customer that we can get. We're after customers who would like to pay a bit extra for servers with less load, to be able to always talk to someone when they call up and customers that usually pay on time. We don't keep customers on our servers that don't pay just to say we have more customers.

I'm not saying that the $10 AUD per month hosts provide bad service. Just that we're not into the el' cheapo hosting market. As you all know there is enough competition in that market and there is always going to be someone cheaper than you.

I've done a bit of thinking and researching into the area of costing. I feel that majority of hosts that charge the lowest prices are after every customer they can get thus creating market share. But the problem is, market share doesn't equal profits.

This book explains things better and worth a read - http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0812933044/qid=1027066221/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/103-9492578-9244609

Cheers,
Nigel

Originally posted by Nigel


Just to clear up the pricing issue, I don't think our pricing is extremley over priced. Look at Australia's largest hosting company with 48,000 sites charging $38+ per month and getting hundreds of signups.



They have a right to charge that much, look they are hosting in Australia on Australian servers.

Originally posted by Nigel
I've done a bit of thinking and researching into the area of costing. I feel that majority of hosts that charge the lowest prices are after every customer they can get thus creating market share. But the problem is, market share doesn't equal profits.


Rackshack anyone :rolleyes:

I thought Nigel made a valid point.

Nigel i agree with everything you have said :agree:

Regards,
Edude

Originally posted by Nigel
Hi, I'm Nigel from AVS Networks - http://avs.net.au. I'm the manager here at AVS.

We've looked into setting some servers up in Australia but 75% of Internet traffic comes from the US anyway. Plus when the US is in the their graveyard period, Australia is at the peak and hence get to use the bandwidth that is not being utilised at the time. I can see this being a benefit of having the servers in the US.

Just to clear up the pricing issue, I don't think our pricing is extremley over priced. Look at Australia's largest hosting company with 48,000 sites charging $38+ per month and getting hundreds of signups.

We're not after every customer that we can get. We're after customers who would like to pay a bit extra for servers with less load, to be able to always talk to someone when they call up and customers that usually pay on time. We don't keep customers on our servers that don't pay just to say we have more customers.

I'm not saying that the $10 AUD per month hosts provide bad service. Just that we're not into the el' cheapo hosting market. As you all know there is enough competition in that market and there is always going to be someone cheaper than you.

I've done a bit of thinking and researching into the area of costing. I feel that majority of hosts that charge the lowest prices are after every customer they can get thus creating market share. But the problem is, market share doesn't equal profits.

This book explains things better and worth a read - http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0812933044/qid=1027066221/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/103-9492578-9244609

Cheers,
Nigel

Yea, liked it. Me too, looking into getting out the el cheapo market one day. ;)

I'd like to throw in a name not mentioned yet: KangaWeb (www.kangaweb.com)

Been with them for over a year. Extremely reliable. Personable and fast with replies. A bit pricy vs. others but they seem to be running specials often. I like the fact that the're NOT so well known and agressively marketed - less chance of the old host crash n burn.:)

They have been around for some time and that is one good sign at least to begin with...

NEVER EVER USE a webhosting that offers:

Unlimited data transfer

In relation to kangaweb - they offer unlimited data transfer, nothing but lies..

BOOO KANGAWEB

:puke: Kangaweb

True on the unlimited thing ... but they didnt used to offer the unlimited and i am talking years not months that they have been around.

The funny is thing is, its a big lie, because there is a 1GB limit and overuse is charged at 2.50$ per 100MB LOOOOOOL

We offer unlimited traffic on our Small Business Starter, Business Power and Corporate Giant accounts to give you peace of mind. However, please note that the following types of sites do not qualify for unlimited traffic:

Sites containing archives or galleries or offering files for download do not qualify for unlimited traffic unless the file types involved (e.g. .jpg, .gif, .tar, .gz, .exe, .zip etc) make up less than 20% of the site's total traffic;
Sites which contain images, CGI programs or similar content which are accessed from other sites. For example, if you run a banner advertising program and the banner is stored on your site and accessed by the sites displaying your banner then you do not qualify for unlimited traffic;
Sites utilizing 'domain parking' (more than one domain name points to your home page);
Sites using more than 5% of system resources;
Sites which generate an unusually high amount of traffic from images or other binary files (such as Java applets, mp3 or sound files). That is, if more than 20% of a site's traffic is from images or other binary files, then that site will not qualify for unlimited traffic.

It sounds a but dubious - basically, they say" "We give you all the transfer you want, but if you use it for anything other than a small personal website, we'll charge you for it."

They've been around since 1998 though, so I'd think their system might be working somehow.

Originally posted by insiderhosting
there is also aussiebob's company www.httpme.com and there is another member here dotcomz or something like that who I also believe in in AU.

-Steven

I'd second httpme.com :D He's very helpful :)

Originally posted by edude
The funny is thing is, its a big lie, because there is a 1GB limit and overuse is charged at 2.50$ per 100MB LOOOOOOL

The bandwidth is unlimited. You just have to pay for it. As long as you have unlimited money, they have unlimited bandwidth. So go ahead, enjoy life without limits. LOL

lol arfarf, great system :eek: