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lamp
06-15-2007, 12:15 PM
Hello,

Every time I look for a domain name in a whois database ("whois name.com"), the domain name is registered less than 24 hours later by some company that posts crap on it.

Is there a way to search for a domain name, where your search is not disclosed, or are all whois databases going to distribute "recent" searches. I mean, this is unbelievable.

David
06-15-2007, 12:17 PM
lamp,

Happens all of the time. One of my more recent ideas was to utilize 'Xibian' (a city in China) as a new hosting brand.. well, sure enough a week later it was registered.

So much for using v3whois.com to find domains. I think these days any 'site' you utilize is gaming you. Try utilizing 'whois' via shell only.

Even then the actual domain providers are still in on it too.

nutznboltz2003
06-15-2007, 12:24 PM
This happened to me. I started using the nslookup command from a dos prompt (also exists on MacOS X and Linux).

just type: nslookup www.domain.com and wait for the results. If you get a name and address, it's registered. If you get a "can't find non-existant domain", then normally, the domain is available. It is possible you and someone else both thought of the same domain, and it has been bought but has not been processed yet.

The nice thing with nslookup is that it does not notify the registry companies that someone is looking at a domain, so those people/companies that monitor those requests will not see it.

Hope this helps.

--adam

john90
06-15-2007, 01:20 PM
I have never had this problem... What lookup do you guys use? I've been using whois.net for a couple years now.

lamp
06-15-2007, 01:24 PM
just type: nslookup www.domain.com and wait for the results. --adam

That's a good idea. I'll change my method of searching from command-line whois to nslookup.

When your name is so unique like: imp21x3saq12s.com and it gets registered 24 hours after your search by a company in the Caribbean when you live in Europe; what gives?

Moreover, what are the odds of this happening more than 4 times in a couple of months?

Cool Surfer
06-15-2007, 01:27 PM
Try a xwhois.com service, godaddy.com then you should not have this problemm But no gaurantees. So make up your mind when you do a whois for buying a domain. If you find it, buy it immediately. :)

RackZen
06-15-2007, 01:27 PM
This has been happening for quite a few years. I've found two places that haven't started doing this... yet. I figure it's only a matter of time.

If you find a good domain name don't wait around to register it. Register it right then.

It's frustrating, but some people make a pretty decent living selling domain names.

lamp
06-15-2007, 01:29 PM
Try a xwhois.com service, godaddy.com then you should not have this problemm But no gaurantees. So make up your mind when you do a whois for buying a domain. If you find it, buy it immediately. :)

Only if it was that simple. When someone asks you: are these domains available; I don't think their intention is to buy all of them... but it would be nice $^)

lamp
06-15-2007, 01:32 PM
but some people make a pretty decent living selling domain names.

Yeah... I'm sure they do; but man are they a REAL pain in the butt.

Must not feel so good (or right) for them to act like leeches ... but then again, leeches have no feelings (I guess).

utropicmedia-karl
06-15-2007, 01:43 PM
Is there a name for this practice? I'd like to use this topic in our next ad campaign... :)

lamp
06-15-2007, 01:58 PM
Is there a name for this practice? I'd like to use this topic in our next ad campaign... :)

I don't know if it's appropriate for your ad campaign:

leeching-the-crap-out-of-your-searches-while-you-sit-and-decide-if-you-want-the-name-and-then-sell-it-back-to-you-for-big-money

Cool Surfer
06-15-2007, 02:03 PM
Is there a name for this practice? I'd like to use this topic in our next ad campaign... :)


You can call it unregistered-domain-hijacking :)_

utropicmedia-karl
06-15-2007, 02:11 PM
I don't know if it's appropriate for your ad campaign:

leeching-the-crap-out-of-your-searches-while-you-sit-and-decide-if-you-want-the-name-and-then-sell-it-back-to-you-for-big-money


It has that easy-to-remember, bible-belt ring to it!

I was thinking of more the "Anti-" variety of that.... :)

utropicmedia-karl
06-15-2007, 02:14 PM
You can call it unregistered-domain-hijacking :)_

I like that! Do we have to pay you royalties?!?!? ;):cool:

lamp
06-15-2007, 02:53 PM
It has that easy-to-remember, bible-belt ring to it!

I was thinking of more the "Anti-" variety of that.... :)


anti-leeching-the-crap-out-of-your-searches-while-you-sit-and-decide-if-you-want-the-name-and-then-sell-it-back-to-you-for-big-money

Better? :):D

utropicmedia-karl
06-15-2007, 02:55 PM
anti-leeching-the-crap-out-of-your-searches-while-you-sit-and-decide-if-you-want-the-name-and-then-sell-it-back-to-you-for-big-money

Better? :):D

Adwords says it's too long. :( :cool:

On a serious note - I had no idea that not stealing your ideas is something that could be a marketing angle. Time to pretty-up our domain registration service! :)

markjut
06-15-2007, 03:03 PM
Yup some registrars and other things track your domain searches and register it, thinking that you might pay to buy it off them for more than the registration price

DATARTIM
06-15-2007, 07:42 PM
Is there a name for this practice? I'd like to use this topic in our next ad campaign... :)

Its called Cyber Squatting.

When you buy a domain name based on the fact another company or person wants it or is going to want it and you have bought it to simply sell to them for a high price or make money off of their product etc.

I haven't had a problem with domains i search being bought , but i think it is very bad practice for Registrars to aid people doing this in anyway.

Henrik
06-15-2007, 07:47 PM
Hello,

Every time I look for a domain name in a whois database ("whois name.com"), the domain name is registered less than 24 hours later by some company that posts crap on it.


This is called "domain tasting" and there are suspicions that certain whois-"services" and domain registrars has this as part of their business practice.

Basically the domain is registered for a couple of days and then it gets dropped, with no cost for the registrar.

ldcdc
06-15-2007, 11:12 PM
but i think it is very bad practice for Registrars to aid people doing this in anyway.Question is, are they "aiding people" or doing it themselves one way or another? :)

This is called "domain tasting"Thank you! I knew I read about it and it had a specific name: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_tasting

Dave Zan
06-15-2007, 11:56 PM
When you buy a domain name based on the fact another company or person wants it or is going to want it and you have bought it to simply sell to them for a high price or make money off of their product etc.

That's partially correct. The missing pieces there are: a) if the party in question has a trademark (or can demonstrate such), and b) if the one who registered the domain name intended to sell it to A.

While naturally not official, wikipedia essentially defines what domain tasting currently is. Beyond that, cybersquatting and domain tasting are not the same.

Of course, that doesn't stop some people from believing, "here's what I believe cybersquatting should be." Believing is one thing, turning that belief into reality that can withstand challenge is another.