Lets say you had a dual 1GHZ machine with 2G+ ram and huge raid harddrives

If you run windows2k or linux on there and install vmware can you sell vmware machines? (obviously tell them its vmware and not a ded server) but there is no difference from a ded server except that we can easliy increase ram and add disk space :) Max 4 customer per server - The only disadvantage i see is if the server freezes, and the harddrives bugs out, 4 servers could loose data
Am i missing something>?

haha, i was thinking the same thing the other day. I am sure someone has done it, you probably couldent even tell if your ssh'ing into a vmware machine anyways. you could give them static ips.

Is there any disadvantage that I didnt think of?

Well, the GSX version is quite expensive. A few thousands dollars. The question is not whether you can provide it, but whether you can price it.

Peter

Also, the VMs won't necessary lose data even if the main server freeze (which is not likely in the first place, since you should have already trimmed it), if you install a journalling file system inside the VM.

Peter

Do you know if its been done ?

I know it has been done in the hosting industry. I forgot the name/site though. Just go on to Vmware's site and see if you can find it in the success stories.

Peter

..isn't the VMware license costly. The thought did cross my mind some time back, but looking at the prices put that off for a while

-mat

Hi.

"Lets say you had a dual 1GHZ machine with 2G+ ram and huge raid harddrives " -- WOW !!!




The following is TESTED OK

1. Pentium 450MHz, 384 RAM [256+128]
2. 30 GB HDD
3. 2 IP addresses.

Configuration:
Win2k on 20GB -- IP 192.168.0.1
512 swap
rest 9.5 GB for redhat 7.2
Run IIS and host domains.

Install VMware
On configurration, chose existing partition
IP: 192.168.0.2, give 128MB ram
run apache/dns etc
host as many domains as you wish...

We had hosted around 50 sites in Win2K[with sql7] and 82 sites in Linux., and it was good.

You should be thinking YEK!! 450 MHZ.. should be awfully slow.. well.. i remember the times some years ago when we had 134 domains hosted in our P166 Mhz and how happy I was to see the performance when we upgraded it to 333MHz..

Average sites we host in todays pIII 1 GHz is around 1000 sites.. when p55 or p100 comes, it does not necessarily mean that our p3 is not good enough..

Vmware we get here is not gsx but the workstation version, and we could boot only 1 guest operating system if real system partitions are used.

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:homer:

Shashi Dahal, talk of crackz, warez, and any other illegal copyright infringement is not only violating the laws, but also the forum rules.

You are not really "free from licensing and or registration costs," you are just waiting to be caught.

And don't forget, you are putting your clients' sites at risk by hosting them with illegal software.

Peter

Originally posted by ckpeter

You are not really "free from licensing and or registration costs," you are just waiting to be caught.

And don't forget, you are putting your clients' sites at risk by hosting them with illegal software.

Peter


Hi.

Just for your info, there is no law on softwares here, and the software market is open and free to anyone who is intrested.
almost 5 years with the market boom ... and since the country itself is engaged in moaist and other issues, we think there will be no barriers for another decade .. for local hosting here, no one cares how the software was obtained .. :(


:homer:

Originally posted by admin0



Hi.

Just for your info, there is no law on softwares here, and the software market is open and free to anyone who is intrested.
almost 5 years with the market boom ... and since the country itself is engaged in moaist and other issues, we think there will be no barriers for another decade .. for local hosting here, no one cares how the software was obtained .. :(


:homer:
Interesting. So you think using illegal software is ok?

You may not get caught immediately, but evetually you will. Besides, I dare you to tell your client that their sites are hosted on (whatever you want to call it) illegal software.

Peter

Hi.

I aplogise for not being able to express properly.

I am trying my best to express it in points.

#1. I am from Nepal and am in Nepal at present.
#2. Here at present, there are no cyber laws
#3. Here at present, there are no copyright laws for anything related to computers or computer softwares.
#4. Here at present, there are no government or private bodies to track down computer/software/cyber abuse or use.

I am against illegal software usage, I am a developer myself and I know the hard-works that goes in making even a small software..

However, in Nepal,

A.
When i purchase a computer [average around $650], i am given a choise to have any of the following: win98, win98SE, winME, win2k pro, win2k server or win2k advance server, upto 3 combinations. Plus, they install applications like oracle 9i, latest adobe products, latest macromedia products, xing Mpeg, office 2000 and/or office 2002, microsoft encarta encyclopedia 2002 or encyclopedia britinnica 2002 and everything else they can think of. .. including VMware..

B.
I might want to pay for those softwares, however, Nepal does not have any bank or bodies to issue credit/debit cards, so we are unable to use our credit card to purchase online.

The other option is bank transfer ... and for that a company[not a person] needs to take export/import permit from the government and the national bank to open dollar a/c as only someone with a dollar a/c is allowed to send $$$ outside. So why can't anyone do that, because the government and the bank do not accept computer software or any digital means as a basis to issue the export/import license. For them, only those products that pass through their customs is a means for the license.
<I have been laughed at this when i once took this issue to the bank to apply for the import/export license>. The only way that someone can send money outside of here is via money laundering .... :D

C. This is the current market price: each cd costs $5

win95, win98SE, winME, win2k pro all in 1 cd
latest adobe products cd
latest macromedia products
win2k server cd
win2k advance server cd
office 2000 cd
office 2002 aka office xp cd
norton systemworks 2002 all in 1 cd
oracle 9i enterprize edition cd
and every other CD that you can imagine.. ..


Thus, even though I feel bad about using softwares, I am unable to do anything, and since this is the national scenario.. everyone knows what they are using and what it is.


The post was about if vmware works, and it works without problems :D!!


:homer:

well....hmm.....

well...all I can say is: no comment.

Peter

Originally posted by admin0
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Hi.

"Lets say you had a dual 1GHZ machine with 2G+ ram and huge raid harddrives " -- WOW !!!

The following is TESTED OK

1. Pentium 450MHz, 384 RAM [256+128]
2. 30 GB HDD
3. 2 IP addresses.



Yes, but if we were to sell as many as 4 per server, we could alot 512MB ram to each, if we only had 384MB - well, lets not talk about that :)

Back to the original topic...

I run a 700 mhz P3 desktop with 256 megs of RAM. I have a Win2k host and an XP guest and a RedHat 7.1 guest.

I run SQL Server 6.0 on the host, and do a lot of database work on it, and run all of my graphics off of XP, and I have no performance problems. Once in a while a key gets stuck or the mouse freezes for a few seconds, but with more RAM this could be avoided. I haven't rebooted my computer, nor the virtual boxes in over a month now, and have had minimal performance loss.

For a server? I wouldn't reccomend it, but you _could_ do it.

I just looked at the VMware site, and apparently version 3.1 fixed the keyboard repeat error. :)

- James