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edude
07-15-2002, 10:46 PM
Why can headsurfer post a thread and stick it on top of the lounge with the prefix "importance:"?

I don't see anything special about the thread, other than a few lines mentioning rackshack..

In my humble opinion its self promotion :angry:

He could have brought up the subject as a thread like anybody else...

:angry: :angry:

Whats everyones opinion on this?

ScottD
07-15-2002, 10:48 PM
I don't see sticky threads because I use "view new posts" exclusively. :rolleyes:

edude
07-15-2002, 10:49 PM
well, if you go to the main forum page and click on webhosting lounge, you will :rolleyes:

ScottD
07-15-2002, 10:54 PM
Ok, it is a tad bit silly to have that one flagged important. Especially considering it is just spewing common sense, eh?

SoftWareRevue
07-15-2002, 10:57 PM
Gotta agree. Kinda silly. :rolleyes:

Twould be better if it was just like anyone elses' thread.

edude
07-15-2002, 11:00 PM
Great to see everyone agrees with me - for once ;)

Techark
07-15-2002, 11:02 PM
I agree with you.

But then again if I paid what he had paid for this place I would stick what ever I wanted where ever I wanted too.:D

edude
07-15-2002, 11:05 PM
Yeh i agree, chicken never starts a thread with "importance:"

hmm :rolleyes:

ScottD
07-15-2002, 11:10 PM
It was probably just a mistake. You know how it can be, you check all the boxes, click all the buttons, and pound the "any" key over and over again until it works...

Andrew
07-15-2002, 11:15 PM
I didn't get the impression that there was any self-promotion behind it. I think he was trying to hammer some stuff home to the poor cyberwings people.

webarama
07-15-2002, 11:15 PM
You people make me laugh sometimes. The guy owns this site, he can do what he likes, simple as that.

If you don't like it that's your decision, but at the end of the day if headsurfer decides to post something and make it sticky it's his decision.

Aussie Bob
07-15-2002, 11:16 PM
Originally posted by edude
Why can headsurfer post a thread and stick it on top of the lounge with the prefix "importance:"?

I don't see anything special about the thread, other than a few lines mentioning rackshack..

In my humble opinion its self promotion :angry:

He could have brought up the subject as a thread like anybody else...

:angry: :angry:

Whats everyones opinion on this?
It's his forum. He forked over the $$$$ for it. He's perfectly entitled to do what he likes. If his actions on this forum breaks the "laws of the land", then he answers to those laws.

edude
07-15-2002, 11:17 PM
Really? Did MattF do it?

Aussie Bob
07-15-2002, 11:18 PM
Originally posted by edude
Really? Did MattF do it?
Who cares what MattF did? It's not his forum [asset] anymore.

webarama
07-15-2002, 11:19 PM
Nice one Aussie Bob, great minds think alike :D :D

SoftWareRevue
07-15-2002, 11:22 PM
Well, I have to go along with edude.

It's not the point whether or not RS owns WHT or not. But, Robert has said on several occasions (of which I've always applauded him for) that WHT will remain as it was. That everyone would follow the same rules. Just because he owns the forum; doesn't make it right (no matter how trivial it may be).

ScottD
07-15-2002, 11:23 PM
What, just because he has the right to post his message the way he did, we don't have the right to gripe about it? Oh yeah, in truth we don't have the right since it isn't our forum! Ack (as Bill used to say).

Honestly, I don't think many people care, but it is still silly.

edude
07-15-2002, 11:24 PM
You guys are just trying to stick up for headsurfer, maybe he will give you a free dedicated server?

hahaha

webarama
07-15-2002, 11:25 PM
Gee whiz, it's hardly a hanging offence is it, one sticky thread.

The guy owns it, simple as that. He can do with it what he likes. If that results in people leaving (which I highly doubt) then be it on his head.

Jag
07-15-2002, 11:25 PM
I agree that is should not be flagged, its not really important . Its just something that there are already 100 other threads on.

As for headsurfer doing what he wants becuase its his forum, phooey. This place is what it is today becuase you guys and all the members here. I dont care who owns, they should at least respect that and cater to the people that made and still make it what it is. Having said that, I dont think he has done anything yet to degrade the forum in any way so far.

edude
07-15-2002, 11:28 PM
Jag spot on, btw i think its you this time whoes doing the stalking..

LOL

J/k

ScottD
07-15-2002, 11:32 PM
edude, many are starstruck by headsurfer, that much should have been obvious just by the first few responses in that thread praising the enlightening information presented.

iamdave
07-15-2002, 11:33 PM
Originally posted by edude
Why can headsurfer post a thread and stick it on top of the lounge with the prefix "importance:"?

I don't see anything special about the thread, other than a few lines mentioning rackshack..

In my humble opinion its self promotion :angry:

He could have brought up the subject as a thread like anybody else...

:angry: :angry:

Whats everyones opinion on this? He owns WHT. :rolleyes:

edude
07-15-2002, 11:36 PM
So what iamdave, read jags post..

Its funny how you worship headsurfer haha :stickout

webarama
07-15-2002, 11:36 PM
Personally I don't care for the man in any way shape or form. My point is simply that this is his place, like it or not. Bleat all you like about it, but at the end of the day he owns it, and will (obviously) do what he likes with it.

Like it or lump it, comment all you like, I doubt he will change his style to make a few people happy with him. Somehow it seems that's just not his style.

edude
07-15-2002, 11:37 PM
Well its worth a try, its our right to practice freedom of speech (or typing)..

And if we can't practice it, than whats all think talk about land of the freedom blah blah..

SoftWareRevue
07-15-2002, 11:37 PM
Originally posted by DizixCom
edude, many are starstruck by headsurfer, that much should have been obvious just by the first few responses in that thread praising the enlightening information presented. HEY! I was the first to respond in that thread.
And I made mention that he shouldn't have mentioned RS.
I didn't notice it was a stickey when I posted or I would have mentioned that too. :stickout

edude
07-15-2002, 11:38 PM
SWR you were starstruck, because you clearly mentioned what a great thread it was :stickout

ScottD
07-15-2002, 11:40 PM
But SWR, you are recused of any possible brown nosing incidents, simply because you openly disagree more often than not. You don't display a pattern of head nodding and groveling. :D

iamdave
07-15-2002, 11:41 PM
Originally posted by edude
So what iamdave, read jags post..

Its funny how you worship headsurfer haha :stickout No, I do not worship him, but I respect him to the fullest degree. I think he is a marketing genius. And just a very wise person in general. He doesn't take crap from any of you, and tells it how it is. Go ahead and flame me, but I think he is an awesome man, and is running a good company, generating over 4 million dollars a month in revenue, I don't see any of you doing that.

edude
07-15-2002, 11:42 PM
Generating over 4 million dollars a month? so what, that could just be revenue, how much of it is profit?


:stickout :stickout :stickout

FDrive
07-15-2002, 11:43 PM
Who cares? It's just a sticky thread. I'm not going to worry about it.

edude
07-15-2002, 11:43 PM
Well i am, because it is in my right to worry about it :mad:

iamdave
07-15-2002, 11:44 PM
Originally posted by edude
Generating over 4 million dollars a month? so what, that could just be revenue, how much of it is profit?


:stickout :stickout :stickout edude, just a month or two ago it was around 3 million, and they were surviving just fine. Now a few months later, they are making 4 million, does that make any sense to you?

edude
07-15-2002, 11:44 PM
4 million what? you didn't mention if it was profit or revenue, there is a big difference you know..

SoftWareRevue
07-15-2002, 11:45 PM
Originally posted by DizixCom
But SWR, you are recused of any possible brown nosing incidents, simply because you openly disagree more often than not. You don't display a pattern of head nodding and groveling. :D Like it or not; I'm taking that as a compliment. :blush:

:D

iamdave
07-15-2002, 11:45 PM
Originally posted by edude
4 million what? you didn't mention if it was profit or revenue, there is a big difference you know.. 4 million peanuts, what do you think?

FDrive
07-15-2002, 11:46 PM
Originally posted by edude
Why can headsurfer post a thread and stick it on top of the lounge with the prefix "importance:"?

I don't see anything special about the thread, other than a few lines mentioning rackshack..

In my humble opinion its self promotion :angry:

He could have brought up the subject as a thread like anybody else...

:angry: :angry:

Whats everyones opinion on this?

If you look very hard for illegitimacy, you will find it anywhere you want. For example, I could read this thread and think that this is a deliberate attack on WHT and you are using it as self-promotion for hostingchat.net. But I'm not a conspiracy theorist, so I don't try to find things like that wherever I look. I'm sure Robert has good intentions and is just trying to help web hosting customers out. Don't worry about it. Really.

edude
07-15-2002, 11:46 PM
Hahaha, you should've been more specific in your posts, btw i want proof that he is making 4 million profit and not 4 million revenue?

webarama
07-15-2002, 11:47 PM
Is it relevant to the discussion how much rs is making?

ScottD
07-15-2002, 11:47 PM
You can boast revenue numbers all day long, they mean nothing unless you can back that up with positive margins. I'm not sure what his revenue capabilities have to do with the fact that he quite sillily (new word, don't bother looking it up) posted a regular joes post in the form of an important announcement.

And there it is, post 500.

edude
07-15-2002, 11:47 PM
I don't even own hostingchat.net, i just post there...

Duh...

I myself know that hostingchat.net will never be as popular as wht...




Originally posted by FDrive


If you look very hard for illegitmacy, you will find it anywhere you want. For example, I could read this thread and think that this is a delibrate attack on WHT and you are using it as self-promotion for hostingchat.net. But I'm not a conspiracy theorist, so I don't try to find things like that wherever I look. I'm sure Robert has good intentions and is just trying to help web hosting customers out. Don't worry about it. Really.

iamdave
07-15-2002, 11:48 PM
Originally posted by edude
Hahaha, you should've been more specific in your posts, btw i want proof that he is making 4 million profit and not 4 million revenue? I never said 4 million in profit, he makes that in revenue, I think, even if he made $500,000 profit a month, he would be very successful. RackShack and Robert Marsh, must be doing something that they are able to survive, and become an industry leader.

edude
07-15-2002, 11:48 PM
no, but iamdave mentioned it, so i am trying to get the correct information, so readers of the forum don't read incorrect information.

Originally posted by davehooper.net
Is it relevant to the discussion how much rs is making? :rolleyes:

Jag
07-15-2002, 11:48 PM
Originally posted by iamdave
No, I do not worship him, but I respect him to the fullest degree. I think he is a marketing genius. And just a very wise person in general. He doesn't take crap from any of you, and tells it how it is. Go ahead and flame me, but I think he is an awesome man, and is running a good company, generating over 4 million dollars a month in revenue, I don't see any of you doing that.

Where does that figure come from? :erm:

webarama
07-15-2002, 11:49 PM
Originally posted by DizixCom
.....sillily (new word, don't bother looking it up)

I couldn't help myself, I had to know;

http://www.hyperdictionary.com/dictionary/sillily

edude
07-15-2002, 11:49 PM
Able to survive, they haven't been out there that long..

Give it some time, than we will see..

There you go, you never said 4 million in profit, for all we know it could all be loses...

Make sure you mention the correct facts, before you post the information..

Originally posted by iamdave
I never said 4 million in profit, he makes that in revenue, I think, even if he made $500,000 profit a month, he would be very successful. RackShack and Robert Marsh, must be doing something that they are able to survive, and become an industry leader.

iamdave
07-15-2002, 11:50 PM
Originally posted by davehooper.net
Is it relevant to the discussion how much rs is making? It isn't, I merely stated the fact that I respect him to the highest degree, and that unlike many of the people who flame him, his company generates 4 million dollars in revenue per month, I in no way wanted to turn this into a discussion about how much EV1/RackShack makes.

edude
07-15-2002, 11:51 PM
haha, the company i work for generates more than 4 million a month.. so what? It could all be loses?

ScottD
07-15-2002, 11:51 PM
I couldn't help myself, I had to know;

http://www.hyperdictionary.com/dictionary/sillilyOh sure! Ruin it for me, and I thought I was a newborn word-inventor. Dag nabbit, so much for that letter I was drafting to the undertaker of the OED.

SoftWareRevue
07-15-2002, 11:51 PM
Originally posted by DizixCom
. . . . . . .

And there it is, post 500. Whoa; Scott. . . :eek:

Isn't it tradition to post a 500 Posts thread in the lounge?

Now you'll have to wait for 1000. :D





:beer: anywho :)

iamdave
07-15-2002, 11:52 PM
The 4 million was stated by HeadSurfer in a thread, if I remember correctly. This is getting way off topic, I didn't want this to become a thread on how much they make, I just admire the guy, and let's leave it at that.

ScottD
07-15-2002, 11:53 PM
Isn't it tradition to post a 500 Posts thread in the lounge?I guess that's twice in one thread that I get shat on. Wow, both by my own...

edude
07-15-2002, 11:53 PM
Post the url to the thread here.. please.. or edit your posts and remove the 4million dollar comment..

webarama
07-15-2002, 11:54 PM
edude, lighten up buddy, you sound like you're about to explode.

iamdave
07-15-2002, 11:56 PM
http://webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=60203&highlight=million there edude, scroll to the bottom.

We don;t want to lose anyone, but will absolutely will not engane in a practice of fraudulant billing. If we did, we risk our ability to process credit cards and that risks the nearly $4 million we collect every month from credit cards.ANd this amount is just from credit cards...

iamdave
07-15-2002, 11:56 PM
Originally posted by edude
Post the url to the thread here.. please.. or edit your posts and remove the 4million dollar comment.. I will not remove my comments. I knew he posted it, and I gave you the link.

ScottD
07-15-2002, 11:57 PM
What a drag it must be to pay out more in credit card processing fees than the costs of an OC3, or two.

iamdave
07-15-2002, 11:58 PM
Did edude go into hiding?

Andrew
07-16-2002, 12:00 AM
Apparently...

iamdave
07-16-2002, 12:01 AM
Originally posted by lightnin
Apparently... Ya, before I proved my point, he was posting every minute, now he's in a period of dormancy.

Andrew
07-16-2002, 12:02 AM
LOL!

Jag
07-16-2002, 12:04 AM
Originally posted by iamdave
The 4 million was stated by HeadSurfer in a thread, if I remember correctly. This is getting way off topic, I didn't want this to become a thread on how much they make, I just admire the guy, and let's leave it at that.

I will not leave it at that, lets talk about his socks next. :D

ScottD
07-16-2002, 12:05 AM
White hanes with the red line and grey shaded toes and heels?

iamdave
07-16-2002, 12:05 AM
Originally posted by Jag


I will not leave it at that, lets talk about his socks next. :D I was thinking about something else, but I guess his socks will do.

SoftWareRevue
07-16-2002, 12:08 AM
Originally posted by iamdave
Ya, before I proved my point, he was posting every minute, now he's in a period of dormancy. What point is it you proved? And what point is it you're trying to make? :rolleyes:

And what's this thread about? Are you just determined to keep it off topic? Why not just start another thread if you just want to argue? Hell. I'll go with ya.

edude
07-16-2002, 12:09 AM
haha i'm back, i had to do something for the boss..

So what 4 million from credit cards? doesn't mean its profit..

:confused:

ScottD
07-16-2002, 12:10 AM
I get it. If I have $4 million in revenue I can post sticky threads too? Now it makes sense...

edude
07-16-2002, 12:10 AM
No, i didn't go into hiding, i have a life and things to do, unlike you ;)

Originally posted by iamdave
Did edude go into hiding?

iamdave
07-16-2002, 12:10 AM
Originally posted by SoftWareRevue
What point is it you proved? And what point is it you're trying to make? :rolleyes:

And what's this thread about? Are you just determined to keep it off topic? Why not just start another thread if you just want to argue? Hell. I'll go with ya. Ummh, I proved my point that HeadSurfer stated that they collect $4 million a month in credit card revenue. I already said that this is off topic, and asked for the thread to continue on the subject that was given, read the thread before you comment. ;)

edude
07-16-2002, 12:11 AM
lol Dizixcom, its everyones goal in life, to make 4 million in revenues to post a sticky thread :D :D :D :D

edude
07-16-2002, 12:12 AM
Whats so special about 4 million in revenue? please someone elaborate on this?

iamdave
07-16-2002, 12:12 AM
Originally posted by edude
No, i didn't go into hiding, i have a life and things to do, unlike you ;)

Sure you do, that's why you posted like 500 posts in the past 2 weeks, on WHT and on HostingChat.
Originally posted by edude
haha i'm back, i had to do something for the boss..

So what 4 million from credit cards? doesn't mean its profit..

:confused: I never said profit, did you read the posts that I made? Or just the "4 million" part?

iamdave
07-16-2002, 12:13 AM
Originally posted by edude
Whats so special about 4 million in revenue? please someone elaborate on this? Nothing, I said that admire him, for being able to establish a successful company generating 4 million dollars a month in revenue, in such a short period of time.

edude
07-16-2002, 12:13 AM
So what? it doesn't take you long to post 500 posts...

Yes, now tell me whats so special about 4 million revenue?????

ScottD
07-16-2002, 12:14 AM
Amazon makes a couple billion in revenue, but they don't convert it to profit. I suppose Jeff Bezos would be excused if he popped in and posted a sticky thread though, he kinda beats that $4 million requirement.

iamdave
07-16-2002, 12:15 AM
Originally posted by DizixCom
I get it. If I have $4 million in revenue I can post sticky threads too? Now it makes sense... First of all he owns this damn board, he has every right to do whatever he wants. If he likes he can close it down tomorrow. He obtained this from Matt Freeman for a dollar amount that pleased Matt. No, generating 4 million a month in revenue doesn't give you special posting privileges, however, owning a forum does. :)

edude
07-16-2002, 12:15 AM
Hahaha Dizixcom, can i post a sticky? the company i work for makes more than 4 million a month?

edude
07-16-2002, 12:16 AM
Without the posters posting in this forum (us), i don't think owning a empty forum is anything special? I own a empty forum woohoo :P I'm special :P

Originally posted by iamdave
First of all he owns this damn board, he has every right to do whatever he wants. If he likes he can close it down tomorrow. He obtained this from Matt Freeman for a dollar amount that pleased Matt. No, generating 4 million a month in revenue doesn't give you special posting privileges, however, owning a forum does. :)

iamdave
07-16-2002, 12:16 AM
Originally posted by edude
So what? it doesn't take you long to post 500 posts...

Yes, now tell me whats so special about 4 million revenue????? Oh geese, you must be blind. I will say it once more, I said that admire him, for being able to establish a successful company generating 4 million dollars a month in revenue, in such a short period of time.

iamdave
07-16-2002, 12:16 AM
Originally posted by edude
Without the posters posting in this forum (us), i don't think owning a empty forum is anything special? I own a empty forum woohoo :P I'm special :P

Very true, so what are you waiting for? Leave!

edude
07-16-2002, 12:17 AM
Anyone offering 99$ for servers can generate 4 million a month, but how long will it last? :confused:

Why would you admire someone making 4 million revenue a month?

ScottD
07-16-2002, 12:18 AM
Okay, my apologies for going on and on about nothing in general. This is just one of those threads that is fun to have fun in, if ya get my drift.

Iamdave, you can worship whomever you please, really. No offense intended by dragging the $4 million thing out so far. I guess the socks conversation died a bit prematurely.

iamdave
07-16-2002, 12:18 AM
Originally posted by edude
Anyone offering 99$ for servers can generate 4 million a month, but how long will it last? :confused:

Why would you admire someone making 4 million revenue a month? Damn, you must be very ignorant. I said I admire him for being able to establish a company that now generatoes over $4 million a month in revenue in such a short time.

edude
07-16-2002, 12:18 AM
1 leaving will not make much difference, but if we leave in quanity it will...

So he has to listen or at least reply to our views..

To keep his members..

Originally posted by iamdave
Very true, so what are you waiting for? Leave!

edude
07-16-2002, 12:19 AM
lol DizixCom its been great fun in this thread..

I know what colour socks Robert wears!!

Can i post a sticky?

iamdave
07-16-2002, 12:20 AM
Originally posted by edude
1 leaving will not make much difference, but if we leave in quanity it will...

So he has to listen or at least reply to our views..

To keep his members..

Instead of threatening, just leave. You have nothing to lose. You are correct in saying that if people leave in the masses this forum will be useless, but what are the chances of 16,000 members all deciding to leave a forum one day?

edude
07-16-2002, 12:22 AM
ummmmmmm, do you know the percentage rate of how many of those 16,000 members actually post? i think its a very low rate...

Maybe chicken can post us some facts on this topic...

iamdave
07-16-2002, 12:25 AM
Originally posted by edude
ummmmmmm, do you know the percentage rate of how many of those 16,000 members actually post? i think its a very low rate...

Maybe chicken can post us some facts on this topic... When I joined WHT, there was less than 10,000 members, so the forum has grown by 6,000 members. That's almost 900 members a month.

edude
07-16-2002, 12:25 AM
yes, whocares about the amount of members, but how many of those members POST on the forum?

edude
07-16-2002, 12:27 AM
wow, no one asked me the colours of Roberts socks?

edude
07-16-2002, 12:30 AM
Seems the thread has died down, ohwell it served its purpose well ;)

:eek:

webarama
07-16-2002, 12:31 AM
Originally posted by edude
Seems the thread has died down, ohwell it served its purpose well ;)

:eek:

...and we all know what that purpose was don't we edude?

iamdave
07-16-2002, 12:32 AM
Originally posted by edude
yes, whocares about the amount of members, but how many of those members POST on the forum? You have spare time, go count... Don't take it offensively.

edude
07-16-2002, 12:32 AM
Ofcourse we do, to find out what colours robert's socks are ;)

ScottD
07-16-2002, 12:35 AM
I thought we decided they were white haines with the grey spots on the toes and heels? Or was that just me?

webarama
07-16-2002, 12:38 AM
...and boy do they smell BAD

edude
07-16-2002, 12:40 AM
Anyone here use photoshop..

Go to: http://www.rackshack.net/

Download his picture on the main page, zoom in and see if you can find out :rolleyes:

Don't worry iamdave, i don't think your posts have enough offensive material to take offensively..

iamdave
07-16-2002, 12:47 AM
Originally posted by edude
Don't worry iamdave, i don't think your posts have enough offensive material to take offensively.. Didn't seem that way when you became all defensive, when I made those comments.

Sesran
07-16-2002, 12:52 AM
Originally posted by edude
Yeh i agree, chicken never starts a thread with "importance:"

hmm :rolleyes:
Does Chicken ever say anything of importance??


Muahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
EVIL HUMAN PRANK!!!!!! ;)

edude
07-16-2002, 12:58 AM
Well, i do have the right to reply don't I?


Originally posted by iamdave
Didn't seem that way when you became all defensive, when I made those comments.

iamdave
07-16-2002, 01:28 AM
Originally posted by edude
Well, i do have the right to reply don't I?


Of course you do.

edude
07-16-2002, 01:31 AM
Iamdave, i probably have a right to reply for now, but i won't when Robert reads this thread :rolleyes:

iamdave
07-16-2002, 01:35 AM
Originally posted by edude
Iamdave, i probably have a right to reply for now, but i won't when Robert reads this thread :rolleyes: I doubt Robert would act so childish as to do that.

edude
07-16-2002, 01:36 AM
I guess time will tell :bawling: my fate :bawling:

ckpeter
07-16-2002, 02:07 AM
edude, I think you need to calm down a little. Its interesting because just a day before I was accused of being too serioues in an ad forum, and now you act even more aggressively in the lounge forum. :rolleyes: (after your traditions of green faces).

Going back on topic, I think Robert is justified in posting that sticky thread. He didn't post a sticky thread to promote rackshack; he did it to help out the many web hosting clients with a gentle reminder.

As for whether his status has anything to do with it: of course it does. He owns this forum, and as long as he acts morally, he can indulge himself a bit. There are people in life who can afford to publish their views, and others who cannot. Robert owns this place, and his action is coming from good intention, I don't see why this should even be discussed.

P.S. he/rackshack is paying for the storage that is storing your(everyone's) very words.

Peter

edude
07-16-2002, 02:13 AM
Can you post me the link where you were accused in the ad forum?

BTW, more people have agreed with my opinion than disagreed, so i don't think i was accused ;)

BTW, i really just posted this to reach the 2,000 post mark..

I've reached it so, i'll take it easy...

I couldn't care less about what robert does to this forum, as long as i reach chickens 10,000 posts..

webarama
07-16-2002, 02:16 AM
Originally posted by edude


I couldn't care less about what robert does to this forum, as long as i reach chickens 10,000 posts..

Just about sums up your entire argument

phpjames
07-16-2002, 02:19 AM
I think every post by headsurfer is shameless self promotion and putting a stain on this board. I really dislike the taste RS leaves on here and I really disagree with the influence headsurfer has. I thought this board was to remain RS free? :eek:

ckpeter
07-16-2002, 02:21 AM
The thread I was referring to was this:

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=60532

I can't say I respect your goal of post count. Really, I think you are losing more respects and reputations than you gain by more post counts. Many of us aspire to higher post count, but the proper way is to gain that status by contributing useful content to the forum, not just posting whatever talkable.

This is why I think all posts in the lounge fourm should not count toward post count.

Maybe it is time that I should leave WHT behind.

Peter

Jag
07-16-2002, 02:24 AM
Who cares if edude is agressive with his posts or high strung, its a free board.....or is it ?!? :eek3:

amusive.com
07-16-2002, 02:24 AM
Originally posted by edude
So what? it doesn't take you long to post 500 posts...


Not when the posts are as useless as yours... :stickout

ckpeter
07-16-2002, 02:30 AM
Originally posted by Jag
Who cares if edude is agressive with his posts or high strung, its a free board.....or is it ?!? :eek3:
This isn't a free board (I think Chicken once repealed the doctrine of free speech). It is moderated.

Furthermore, posts made here are not just staight out to the trash. They are read by people; people like me who have a mind, a spirit, and a taste. If anything, the posts are the interaction among the participants. Bad posts/negative posts represent negative interactions. I fortunately was not the target of such aggression, but I certain want the board to remain cooperative and I could understand how negative interaction turns people off.

To answer your question: everyone who reads cares.

Peter

phpjames
07-16-2002, 02:36 AM
headsurfer just bothers me.. so snooty and snooby. I love how free (moderated) this board is that I can say this. :)

Jag
07-16-2002, 02:36 AM
Well I asked and got an answer, what more could I want!

the-muse
07-16-2002, 02:38 AM
1 leaving will not make much difference, but if we leave in quanity it will... So he has to listen or at least reply to our views.. To keep his members..
We need his board more than he needs us. This place used to be very helpful when I first started visiting here months ago. I never posted. Just studied, researched.

Now I have a tendency to share sentiments with ckpeter:
Maybe it is time that I should leave WHT behind.
I wonder if these threads would be more meaningful if the community members could vote on banishment of abusers?

edude
07-16-2002, 03:27 AM
I did contribute, i started a very interesting thread that received 100 replies +...

;)

Go ahead and leave wht, i doubt anyone would care :P


The muse, hmm the first one you would vote for would be me wouldn't you?

I'll just ignore your replies since they carry on from our nocster discussion..

Originally posted by ckpeter
The thread I was referring to was this:

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=60532

I can't say I respect your goal of post count. Really, I think you are losing more respects and reputations than you gain by more post counts. Many of us aspire to higher post count, but the proper way is to gain that status by contributing useful content to the forum, not just posting whatever talkable.

This is why I think all posts in the lounge fourm should not count toward post count.

Maybe it is time that I should leave WHT behind.

Peter

edude
07-16-2002, 03:28 AM
I guess so, any problems?

Originally posted by davehooper.net


Just about sums up your entire argument

edude
07-16-2002, 03:29 AM
Can you stop insulting every thread i start or reply in? I think i'm going to have to report you to chicken soon..

Its getting a bit old, stay away from my threads and i'll stay away from yours.

Originally posted by amusive.com


Not when the posts are as useless as yours... :stickout

edude
07-16-2002, 03:31 AM
ckpeter, i have as much right as you to post here...

If you have a problem with my post, report it to a moderator..

Chicken has no pm'ed me and told me i was doing something wrong, so i think i'll go ahead and keep posting my so called "useless" threads..

Thanks Jag, at least someone here has a "brain"..

Originally posted by ckpeter

This isn't a free board (I think Chicken once repealed the doctrine of free speech). It is moderated.

Furthermore, posts made here are not just staight out to the trash. They are read by people; people like me who have a mind, a spirit, and a taste. If anything, the posts are the interaction among the participants. Bad posts/negative posts represent negative interactions. I fortunately was not the target of such aggression, but I certain want the board to remain cooperative and I could understand how negative interaction turns people off.

To answer your question: everyone who reads cares.

Peter

edude
07-16-2002, 03:32 AM
Oh, one more thing..

You should be able to tell i was joking about the 10,000 posts thing..

Also if you have a problem with replying to every post in this method and not in one post, report it to someone whocares ;)

amusive.com
07-16-2002, 03:35 AM
Originally posted by edude
Can you stop insulting every thread i start or reply in? I think i'm going to have to report you to chicken soon..

Its getting a bit old, stay away from my threads and i'll stay away from yours.



I'm simply pointing out that you're useless, you rip on companies you know nothing about, etc, just to raise your post count or for some other reason I won't even begin to try to concieve.

If you have a problem, report me to a moderator. Chicken has not pm'ed me and told me I was doing something wrong, so I think I'll go ahead and keep posting.

Oh wait -- rules only apply when they're in your favor, right?

edude
07-16-2002, 03:36 AM
So what, my posts are useless whocares...

Do you have to point that out every post i post?

edude
07-16-2002, 03:42 AM
Hey amusive,

your site is down, i think its cogent :stickout

Chicken
07-16-2002, 09:23 AM
Originally posted by edude
ummmmmmm, do you know the percentage rate of how many of those 16,000 members actually post? i think its a very low rate...

Maybe chicken can post us some facts on this topic...
5474 members have posted within the last 3 months.
4452 members have posted within the last 2 months.
3110 members have posted within the last month.
1589 members posted this past week.
830 members posted yesterday.

This is registered members who have posted only.

webarama
07-16-2002, 09:26 AM
And at least that many again that would be lurkers, so the true 'membership' is more like 10,000 or so.

StarGate
07-16-2002, 10:01 AM
headsurfer self-promoted himself and and will now banned from WHT... bummer :D

ckpeter
07-16-2002, 12:34 PM
To edude,

Usually, I argue/discuss on the forum with other people in an attempt to find out a common ground and reach a mutual conclusion. I tried to do that with you, but I have just realize you are not worth discussing with. I don't see how with your mis-quoting of what I said, your "who cares" attutude, and your extremely aggressive attitude, how this conversation can go anywhere. You seem to argue for the sake of arguing.

To sum this up: I am not going to waste my time in the lounge forum with you; I have better things to do. Let others be the judge.

Peter

ScottD
07-16-2002, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by NocSol
46-75-63-6B-20-79-6F-75-20-61-6C-6C-20-3A-44Back atcha buddy! Why the hatred? Good to see it is qualified with a :D at least.

amusive.com
07-16-2002, 03:06 PM
Originally posted by edude
Hey amusive,

your site is down, i think its cogent :stickout

Nope, not down -- no downtime since the router issue last night; the error must have been your ISP... plus Cogent is still off. Hehe, have you gotten used to constantly being wrong yet?

I'd give you access to my traffic graphs, but, well, I don't like you.

FDrive
07-16-2002, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by edude
I don't even own hostingchat.net, i just post there...

Duh...

I myself know that hostingchat.net will never be as popular as wht...




But I could still accuse you -- that doesn't make me right. That's my point.

iamdave
07-16-2002, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by Chicken

5474 members have posted within the last 3 months.
4452 members have posted within the last 2 months.
3110 members have posted within the last month.
1589 members posted this past week.
830 members posted yesterday.

This is registered members who have posted only. I guess to edude, 800+ members posting in one day, is very little...

iamdave
07-16-2002, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by amusive.com
I'd give you access to my traffic graphs, but, well, I don't like you. LOL

SoftWareRevue
07-16-2002, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by iamdave
I guess to edude. . . . . . . Okay. Okay. We get it.

You don't like him.

He don't like you.


Get over it. Move on.

edude
07-16-2002, 05:48 PM
Amusive,

Guess what, i don't like you either..

Also iamdave, 800 members out of 16,000 is only a small portion..


Originally posted by amusive.com


Nope, not down -- no downtime since the router issue last night; the error must have been your ISP... plus Cogent is still off. Hehe, have you gotten used to constantly being wrong yet?

I'd give you access to my traffic graphs, but, well, I don't like you.

edude
07-16-2002, 05:52 PM
I am aggressive? haha seems like other members are more aggresive, i have never flamed anyone about the content of their posts...

:P

Originally posted by ckpeter
To edude,

Usually, I argue/discuss on the forum with other people in an attempt to find out a common ground and reach a mutual conclusion. I tried to do that with you, but I have just realize you are not worth discussing with. I don't see how with your mis-quoting of what I said, your "who cares" attutude, and your extremely aggressive attitude, how this conversation can go anywhere. You seem to argue for the sake of arguing.

To sum this up: I am not going to waste my time in the lounge forum with you; I have better things to do. Let others be the judge.

Peter

iamdave
07-16-2002, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by edude
Amusive,

Guess what, i don't like you either..

Also iamdave, 800 members out of 16,000 is only a small portion..


800 members posting in one day? That is a lot of people. Also all 16,000 people aren't home all day long, unlike some others...

amusive.com
07-16-2002, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by edude
Amusive,
Guess what, i don't like you either..

Also iamdave, 800 members out of 16,000 is only a small portion..


It's a small portion but still a lot of posting. Why do you have to insult this forum? :confused: Have you ever said anything positive here about a company? You seem to have a success complex; you have to bash any company doing better than you (HeadSurfer and Rackshack, Cogent, Nocster, Burst, me... it really is a long list).

iamdave
07-16-2002, 06:00 PM
Originally posted by SoftWareRevue
Okay. Okay. We get it.

You don't like him.

He don't like you.


Get over it. Move on. Hmh, I haven't been on anything to get over. I just made a comment stating my opinion, relax.

edude
07-16-2002, 06:02 PM
I'm not bashing wht, just discussing the facts..

you mentioned:

"You seem to have a success complex; you have to bash any company doing better than you"

You? your a company?

BTW, i don't own a company, please speak when you have the facts, i work for a ISP, doesn't mean i own a company..

I have recommended many companies, Site5, voxtreme, straminus etc.. the list is endless..

Originally posted by amusive.com


It's a small portion but still a lot of posting. Why do you have to insult this forum? :confused: Have you ever said anything positive here about a company? You seem to have a success complex; you have to bash any company doing better than you (HeadSurfer and Rackshack, Cogent, Nocster, Burst, me... it really is a long list).

edude
07-16-2002, 06:03 PM
I think a day is the full 24 hour period, do they sleep at work?

Originally posted by iamdave
800 members posting in one day? That is a lot of people. Also all 16,000 people aren't home all day long, unlike some others...

iamdave
07-16-2002, 06:09 PM
Originally posted by edude
I think a day is the full 24 hour period, do they sleep at work?

Most people work at work, I don't know about you...

SoftWareRevue
07-16-2002, 06:12 PM
Originally posted by iamdave
Hmh, I haven't been on anything to get over. I just made a comment stating my opinion, relax. LOL . . . .

You've made thirty posts in this thread alone.

Who needs to relax? :rolleyes:

iamdave
07-16-2002, 06:13 PM
Originally posted by SoftWareRevue
LOL . . . .

You've made thirty posts in this thread alone.

Who needs to relax? :rolleyes: I made 30 replies to edude's comments. Again you need to relax.

ckpeter
07-16-2002, 06:14 PM
edude, why don't you re-read my post again. You seem to have missed my important points.

I join in the discussion because your post's contents are, in my opinion, questionable.

I quited the discussion because I just realize what a waste of time this will be. You post for arguments, I argue for posts. The discussion/argument won't go anywhere.

Like I said, let others be the judges.

Peter

edude
07-16-2002, 06:16 PM
I understand ckpeter, but why did you reply again? :rolleyes:

edude
07-16-2002, 06:17 PM
hmm, replying to my posts is the same as replying to this thread... because i started the thread... duh :P

Originally posted by iamdave
I made 30 replies to edude's comments. Again you need to relax.

iamdave
07-16-2002, 06:19 PM
Originally posted by edude
hmm, replying to my posts is the same as replying to this thread... because i started the thread... duh :P

True, however, I replied to the comments that were directed towards me, and the bashing of RackShack and Robert Marsh.

ckpeter
07-16-2002, 06:20 PM
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: (triple your green faces :D)

Why do you think I reply? THINK!

(I will save you the thinking, little green face. I reply to make sure you get my point. Now that you say you "understand." I probably won't reply, unless I see something outrageous again or if you specifically address me. Of course, any of my participation are not going to be serious - I am learning from your book.)

Peter

edude
07-16-2002, 06:21 PM
Ckpeter, great, you can buy my book from www.amazon.com - it had to be removed from local libaries due to questionable content ;)

Originally posted by ckpeter
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: (triple your green faces :D)

Why do you think I reply? THINK!

(I will save you the thinking, little green face. I reply to make sure you get my point. Now that you say you "understand." I probably won't reply, unless I see something outrageous again or if you specifically address me. Of course, any of my participation are not going to be serious - I am learning from your book.)

Peter

edude
07-16-2002, 06:21 PM
I did not bash robert nor his company, you just posted incorrect figures...

Originally posted by iamdave
True, however, I replied to the comments that were directed towards me, and the bashing of RackShack and Robert Marsh.

iamdave
07-16-2002, 06:22 PM
Originally posted by edude
I did not bash robert nor his company, you just posted incorrect figures...

I even showed you the thread that proved that he said they collect $4 million a month in REVENUE. DID I EVER SAY OTHERWISE? Get your facts straight.

amusive.com
07-16-2002, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by edude
I'm not bashing wht, just discussing the facts..

you mentioned:

"You seem to have a success complex; you have to bash any company doing better than you"

You? your a company?

BTW, i don't own a company, please speak when you have the facts, i work for a ISP, doesn't mean i own a company..



You try to pass opinion and rumor off as facts, hah.

I own a company, yes, and am far more successful than you will ever be... probably why you have a problem with me. Or with Rackshack. Or with Cogent. It's sad, really.

edude
07-16-2002, 06:23 PM
No in the post you mentioned the 4 million, you did not say revenue, you just said 4 million.... ;)

So questioning the fact they make 4 million is bashing RS & Robert?

amusive.com
07-16-2002, 06:25 PM
Originally posted by edude
I did not bash robert nor his company, you just posted incorrect figures...



Read them over, he posted $4 million in revenue. If you need to look a word up because it's new and you don't know what it means, you can do so at Dictionary.com. Revenue != profit.

edude
07-16-2002, 06:25 PM
haha, i don't plan on owning a company, and i have never insulted your company.. maybe you should post facts?

I don't have a problem with Rackshack, maybe you should read the posts? I just questioned the fact they make 4 million, if it was revenue or profit..


duh...

Originally posted by amusive.com


You try to pass opinion and rumor off as facts, hah.

I own a company, yes, and am far more successful than you will ever be... probably why you have a problem with me. Or with Rackshack. Or with Cogent. It's sad, really.

iamdave
07-16-2002, 06:25 PM
Originally posted by edude
No in the post you mentioned the 4 million, you did not say revenue, you just said 4 million.... ;)

So questioning the fact they make 4 million is bashing RS & Robert? You must be 12, or very ignorant, I corrected it, and said 4 million in revenue. You need to learn to read the whole thing and not just the parts that favor your opinion(s).

amusive.com
07-16-2002, 06:27 PM
Originally posted by edude
haha, i don't plan on owning a company, and i have never insulted your company.. maybe you should post facts?

I don't have a problem with Rackshack, maybe you should read the posts? I just questioned the fact they make 4 million, if it was revenue or profit..



Duh... Re-read my post. Maybe if you read it right once you'll understand, I'm not going to spell things out for someone who can't understand something a child could. Or wait, maybe you just do this to cover up the fact that you're constantly wrong, mis-reading and attacking without base? :rolleyes:

edude
07-16-2002, 06:27 PM
Yes so i was right in the beginning, see amusive, he DID NOT POST 4 million in revenue the first time, so i questioned the fact..

get a life...

edude
07-16-2002, 06:29 PM
Ok, amsuive, i'll flame you because i think thats what you want..

Amsuive.com has the worst design i've seen in yonks.. :P

I don't see how a company with such a pathetic design can be successful :stickout

iamdave
07-16-2002, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by edude
Yes so i was right in the beginning, see amusive, he DID NOT POST 4 million in revenue the first time, so i questioned the fact..

get a life... Yes, and you made about 40 posts just dragging on your point over and over and displaying shear ignorance.

ckpeter
07-16-2002, 06:29 PM
Big victory for edude! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Peter

edude
07-16-2002, 06:31 PM
I'm not goign to reply to this thread anymore..

Nor for the fact read it...

Good bye :D

ckpeter
07-16-2002, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by edude
Ok, amsuive, i'll flame you because i think thats what you want..

Amsuive.com has the worst design i've seen in yonks.. :P

I don't see how a company with such a pathetic design can be successful :stickout
I see. Now we are doing personal bashing. Ok, chapter 7, let me put that in my notes on "How to act in the lounge fourm."

(I apologize for my note-taking; I rarely come into the lounge forum, so I need to catch up to all you big brothers there. Especially those with high post count)

Peter

iamdave
07-16-2002, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by edude
I'm not goign to reply to this thread anymore..

Nor for the fact read it...

Good bye :D Why, because I told you how it is?

edude
07-16-2002, 06:33 PM
Moderators, please close this thread..

ckpeter
07-16-2002, 06:33 PM
Originally posted by edude
I'm not goign to reply to this thread anymore..

Nor for the fact read it...

Good bye :D
Don't go! Please don't go!

I am starting to learn, and now you leave. :bawling:

Peter

amusive.com
07-16-2002, 06:33 PM
Originally posted by edude
Ok, amsuive, i'll flame you because i think thats what you want..

Amsuive.com has the worst design i've seen in yonks.. :P

I don't see how a company with such a pathetic design can be successful :stickout

:rolleyes: Want to redesign it for me?

edude
07-16-2002, 06:33 PM
ckpeter your a fool, go and count the times amusive has bashed me, called me useless etc...

bye.

amusive.com
07-16-2002, 06:34 PM
Originally posted by edude
Moderators, please close this thread..

??? I thought you weren't going to post in here anymore?? Proven a liar so soon!

ckpeter
07-16-2002, 06:36 PM
Me? a fool? Isn't this how I should act in the lounge forum? Please allow me to learn from you so I won't be foolish! Please?

(disclaimer: for all you others who think I am a fool, please remember I am completely professional and serious outside the lounge forum.)

Peter

iamdave
07-16-2002, 06:37 PM
Originally posted by edude
ckpeter your a fool, go and count the times amusive has bashed me, called me useless etc...

bye. No responce to my comments?

amusive.com
07-16-2002, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by edude
ckpeter your a fool, go and count the times amusive has bashed me, called me useless etc...

bye.

My only point in those was that you are completely and totally useless.

ckpeter
07-16-2002, 06:40 PM
Oh, before the moderator close this thread, edude, I just wanted to have some fun, that's all.

Imagine me, having been serious and professional for ages, suddenly discover this wonderful place called the lounge forum. I am like a baby in a candy store - I can't help it.

You have my respect outside the lounge forum. But inside the lounge, its a totally different story.... :D

No offense taken?

Peter

SoftWareRevue
07-16-2002, 06:46 PM
Originally posted by iamdave
No responce to my comments? :rolleyes:

iamdave
07-16-2002, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by SoftWareRevue
:rolleyes: What's your problem dude?

Chicken
07-16-2002, 07:54 PM
Anywhoooo....