I apologize for this very silly question.

Don't you guys get bored after shagging the same girl
over and over ?

no matter if you change positions and stuff,
it is the same woman at the end.

It is like a great CD. You hear it so many times
that eventually you need a break. Listen to
other ones and them eventually come back.

It like your favorite dish. Eating it every day, makes you hate it
after a while.

No matter how much i love a person, I feel I need a change.

It actually revitilize you.

It's like taking a vacation. You still love where you live
but going to new places is always exciting.

I want to smell different odors, listen to new voices,
different personalities, new points of view.

Don't you feel you need to have a threesome every now
and then ? I think we all need it.

Sometime men need undevoted attention too.

please don't come up with the line "you don't love her",
"you are young and don't understand" and stuff like that.

I would like answers from people that share my same emotions.

You are free to criticize me and trash me, but please
teach me something I don't know. Offer me an alternative
of what I feel.

i love you all.

Hehe I know how you feel...well maybe I dont.. I say you just take a month off...Then come back....or you could just put a mask on her...Not a good Idea!!:stickout

So go bang another female.

Well no I don't feel that way at all. If I did I woudln't have gotten married. I was married 25 years the first time and never felt that way, and with my current wife now for 3 years and don't envision feeling that way.

My suggestion is if you are thinking like that get another girl and go shagging. Drop the one you are with and don't even consider getting married.

LOL

Oh my... odors and everything. I'm pretty sure this belongs on alt.sex.i.need.new.partners.NOW.

Why don't you start that one up.

In the mean time, enjoy life. Use protection. Don't ask faceless forums deep meaningful questions. Beware of the Zurd.

PS, just curious but how old are you? Not asking to slam you or anything, just curious.

the mask. that was a really great idea !!! thanks.

Ironically, I really would like to get married and have someone
to grow with. I just don't want to think about other women and
stuff like that. One of the main reason I want to be married is
to have children. I don't want to be 40 and start having
children. If i do that by the time my children are 20 I'll be 60.
Very old. Probabily I'll be on a weelchair by then.

I have no clue on what to do.

Originally posted by tb1
the mask. that was a really great idea !!! thanks.

Ironically, I really would like to get married and have someone
to grow with. I just don't want to think about other women and
stuff like that. One of the main reason I want to be married is
to have children. I don't want to be 40 and start having
children. If i do that by the time my children are 20 I'll be 60.
Very old. Probabily I'll be on a weelchair by then.

I have no clue on what to do.

Sleep with lots of girls like you seem to be hoping for and I'm sure you'll end up with quite a few children :rolleyes:

You'll grow out of it... Sooner or later.

tb1.. word of advice, if you do plan to sleep around with many different partners... before you decide to do so, cut loose any strings you have with your current partner.

From a womans point of view, the thought of sleeping with a man who is sticking his parts in another woman and then sticking them back in her is not the most happy vision to have, quite disturbing actually. I'd hope most woman aren't too free in doing it with a stranger too... if you are finding woman that let you even the first week... then I'd say strap on some pretty heavy duty protection or else you'll be hurting alot more than some womans mind further down the line. :eek:

If you think your lifestyle for sleeping around will continue, don't ever have children or get married. Most woman that have hateful feelings towards men stem from discovering their father was sleeping around on their mother during their childhood. Basically, the mindset begins at father=dog -- all men=dogs
A note on the term dog, take a look at the animal kingdom and how it functions. Dogs will sleep with any other dog that is in heat, as dogs (along with most other animals) lack the mental capability of restraint. Humans (although some don't tend to practice it as much... makes you wonder) have the ability to control most of their urges in order to function normally in society... just consider that maybe.

Anyway, some men don't consider these things and always just want want want and who cares who gets hurt in the process. I tend to think woman think alot more than men do (however it varies, not everyone is the same)... it's a wonder we all ever get along. :rolleyes: Depending on where you live also.. these things differ, so look around for areas that think sleeping around is the right thing to do and you'll probably fit in just right. Make sure to also do some research on that area... like disease control stats.. you might find what you learn pretty disturbing.

Question for you... how would you feel if this woman you are bored of and "love" were to confess to you that she's been sleeping with alot of other men because you just weren't cutting it for her. How would you react and how would you feel? :cartman:

---side note
trying to beat tim greers post-length LOL

"It's like taking a vacation. You still love where you live
but going to new places is always exciting. "

LOL. i'd love to hear you try to explain that to her.

*Pulling up a stool and waiting for you to answer Elena.

Good luck.

one way of explaining why u noobed the girl next door LOL

Maybe this is your first girl / first love :-)

I know alot of women don't like to hear this, but a man's mental makeup is fundamentally different from that of a woman. "Men are from Mars, women are from Venus" is a great book. Give it a read sometime.

Men are, by nature, different from women. Women value intimacy much more. Men are affected much more by "visual" stimulus. Men think about sex far more often in a day than women do. Women may object to this notion, but it is a simple fact. Testosterone dictates that. From results of many many studies, men think about sex 5 times more in a day than women. It's just human nature.

Women value security, safety, harmony. Men like risk, challenge, adventure. I'm generalizing, of course. But how else could you have a "general" discussion about human nature? It's been said that one of the main differences between men and women is that women marry men hoping they can change them. Men marry women hoping they never change...

Men and women are just made up differently. In a eutopian world, this would not be the case. But we do not live in eutopia.

I've been married 15 years and have never strayed. But that is not to say that I don't think about it. I do. Like all men. More so than women. That's just a fact.

The day women begin to acknowledge the root differences between men and women is the day we all start to understand and accept each other a little more. The distinction in men is that some succumb to their urges, and others keep them in check. It's called discipline.

Just my thoughts.
Vito

I apologize for this very silly question.
Good for you.
Don't you guys get bored after shagging the same girl
over and over ?
No. If I did, I would dump her first. It isn't fair to make the decision for her that she should 'share' in your 'trading of bodily fluids' with that of another.
no matter if you change positions and stuff,
it is the same woman at the end.
Yep, which is quite nice actually. We know what each other likes.
It is like a great CD. You hear it so many times
that eventually you need a break. Listen to
other ones and them eventually come back.
I like a lot of the same music over and over. Every time I listen to it I hear different instruments that I missed before.
It like your favorite dish. Eating it every day, makes you hate it after a while.
No, eating it every day makes you appriciate that you've got it to eat.
No matter how much i love a person, I feel I need a change.
Then you should not be involved with some one in the first place.
It actually revitilize you.
Yes, sex does do that. That is one of the benefits of it.
It's like taking a vacation. You still love where you live
but going to new places is always exciting.
So you like the thrill of adventure? Try doing it in different places. The car, bathroom, kitchen, sleezy hotel ect.
I want to smell different odors, listen to new voices,
different personalities, new points of view.
Candles, music, movies and listening to your mate is a good start.
Don't you feel you need to have a threesome every now
and then ? I think we all need it.
Nope. I can't imagine not know whos 'whatsits' is where.
Sometime men need undevoted attention too.
Yep, and you only deserve that if you are devoted enough to be a one woman man.
please don't come up with the line "you don't love her",
"you are young and don't understand" and stuff like that. Love obviously means more to other people than it does to you. Admit it, you care more about yourself than her.
I would like answers from people that share my same emotions.
Why so you can justify your selfish actions? Maybe your girlfriend feels the same way, but wouldn't dare cheat on you. At least give her the same respect that she is giving you.
You are free to criticize me and trash me, but please
teach me something I don't know. Offer me an alternative
of what I feel.
I am not a psychologist.
i love you all.
Oh goody. The same way you love your girlfriend that you want to cheat on.

Originally posted by dbodner
"It's like taking a vacation. You still love where you live
but going to new places is always exciting. "

LOL. i'd love to hear you try to explain that to her.

i would love to hear that be explained too...

can we get the dialog to that conversation posted to the board? LOL :D

I can only agree with original thread starter. No matter how beautyful or lovely I always get bored... can't say I like it :(

TB1, I must disagree with Elena.

Oh, not about what she wrote, in general. Just that, at first, I used to think, like her, that women were more 'intellectual'. But experience has taught me that it is true of SOME women and couldn't more more untrue of others. Some women could actually go lower for sex than any man you know.

Now, if you want to live a live like that, all I have to tell you is: find a partner who thinks like you, be a "free" couple and nobody will get hurt. However, think carefully if that kind of like will be compatible with raising children.

Chris, I don't think woman are more intellectual... I just think most woman consider a little more about how our actions will effect others. And that's not saying all woman are like this.. only the sane ones. LOL

It's a sad loop... remember what I posted about those woman who hate men? Well guess what? Most of those woman are the ones that are going to abuse and use men. Sometimes I think men who have that constant urge to screw everything with a hole must have some pretty bad psychological problems too.. tends to make me think of those freak shows you see on Jerry Springer. :eek: Can't say any of those people got to where they were without some form of physical or mental abuse sometime during their lives. :(

Elena which catergory do you come under? the sane or not so sane ones? lol :stickout

You can use your imagination though when you do it.
Like fantasize she is Kirsten Dunst.:D

Please do not flame me for this lame idea.:eek:

Originally posted by edude
Elena which catergory do you come under? the sane or not so sane ones? lol :stickout I'd like to think of myself as pretty sane :D Considering I've only slept with one person and probably won't be selecting a new partner for a very long time...

I tend to see that when people think they need to be with every living thing on the planet.. there is some mental instability at play.. obsessive compulsive.. maybe someone needs to see a shrink? heh j/k Roy has got the right idea, fantasizing and looking aren't a bad thing.. touching while with someone already is not a good idea. If the thread starter is going to be doing everyone he knows.. he best keep away from any type of committed relationships.. since that is not a nice thing to do to another person imho.

NOOO!! You cannot sleep around with all those women! That is MY role! They're mine, all mine! :D

Seriously though, threesomes sometimes dont work out the way you expect. I tried that once and my ex-wife left me for that other woman :angry:

What did I learn from that? If you do a threesome, make sure your wife isnt involved ;)

Originally posted by Webdude
Seriously though, threesomes sometimes dont work out the way you expect. I tried that once and my ex-wife left me for that other woman :angry: :laugh:

That was the funniest thing I've heard today.

Originally posted by Webdude
Seriously though, threesomes sometimes dont work out the way you expect. I tried that once and my ex-wife left me for that other woman :angry:
OUCH!!
:eek:

Yikes, just like Ross on Friends. And I thought that only happened on TV..

And guys are no worse than girls that's for sure. I hate it when girls say 'men are dogs' and things like that. You should say 'people are dogs.' Because it goes both ways. Some hardcore slutty gals out there.. Ever heard of Puck Bunnies?

Originally posted by APEXware
Yikes, just like Ross on Friends.

I think they got that idea from MY story since this happened to me long before that show was around..LOL. My fault for letting the b***h move in (wife's idea). I dont give in though. After a while this girl and I hated each other. It got really scary when I moved in another girl and told my wife that if she can move in another sex partner, then so can I. Too bad Springer wasnt around back then :D

Haha, this is an interesting thread.
My personal view on the topic is. I have dated alot of girls in the past, and yes, I got tired of them after a while. However I found the right girl, and it still feals like the first time, everytime, now im engaged to this girl. If you find the right girl, you wont get tired of her, in that deparment.

Originally posted by Webdude
Seriously though, threesomes sometimes dont work out the way you expect. I tried that once and my ex-wife left me for that other woman :angry:
Hey, I think I saw you on Springer!
Woops, just saw your reply. Darn, too late!

Let's suppose that after working long hours,
dealing with customers and configuring servers,
two beautiful skinny blonde tall girls supposedly show up where you work
in the server room. Everyone left by then. You are bended over
the keyboard, with the last slice of pizza getting dry with the extremities bending
upwards, the beeper going crazy and the unanswered e-mails keep coming.

They are wearing roberto cavalli jeans, frye boots and a fashion-cafe baby-t,
and they are both drinking coronas. Almost no make-up. They are gorgeous.
The skiinny models start kissing each other, laughing and caressing each other
without inhibition. One of them tells you: don't take life so seriously all the time,
have a break sometimes. You work so hard my poor creature. She then gives you
a caress on your face.

I guess we will have six kind of men in this forum.

1. The one that let them do wherever they want, to themselves and to him.

2. The one that curiously only watches them, feeling gulty,
but liking it really bad.

3. The one that say "please don't touch me, I'm a very serious man,
as well as very responsible. I'll always be loyal to my principles. i have
many other servers to configure, so please don't distract me."

5. The one that runs away disgusted, callng the office security.

6. The one that confused starts crying questioning his current relationship.

We will also have two kind of women.

1. The one that joins them and start to go crazy.

2. The one that runs away disgusted, callng the office security.

I don't know who belongs to which category.

I still like the mask idea the best

Originally posted by tb1
I apologize for this very silly question.

Don't you feel you need to have a threesome every now
and then ? I think we all need it.



Talk to your girlfriend about it. She may have a great guy in mind for that! :D

Originally posted by tb1
model's surprise party.....


lol...According to that list, I'm male #4. :D

Long post by ATST


I agree with probably everything in your post.

Originally posted by tb1
Let's suppose that after working long hours,
dealing with customers and configuring servers,
two beautiful skinny blonde tall girls supposedly show up where you work
in the server room. Everyone left by then. You are bended over
the keyboard, with the last slice of pizza getting dry with the extremities bending
upwards, the beeper going crazy and the unanswered e-mails keep coming.

They are wearing roberto cavalli jeans, frye boots and a fashion-cafe baby-t,
and they are both drinking coronas. Almost no make-up. They are gorgeous.
The skiinny models start kissing each other, laughing and caressing each other
without inhibition. One of them tells you: don't take life so seriously all the time,
have a break sometimes. You work so hard my poor creature. She then gives you
a caress on your face.

I guess we will have six kind of men in this forum.

1. The one that let them do wherever they want, to themselves and to him.

2. The one that curiously only watches them, feeling gulty,
but liking it really bad.

3. The one that say "please don't touch me, I'm a very serious man,
as well as very responsible. I'll always be loyal to my principles. i have
many other servers to configure, so please don't distract me."

5. The one that runs away disgusted, callng the office security.

6. The one that confused starts crying questioning his current relationship.

We will also have two kind of women.

1. The one that joins them and start to go crazy.

2. The one that runs away disgusted, callng the office security.

I don't know who belongs to which category.

I still like the mask idea the best

Dude, get the **** out of your fantasy world. I hope you live a miserable life and never find true happiness because you are such a worthless POS :rolleyes: You do NOT know love if you are not willing to settle down with one person. You do sound like a fan of Jerry Springer, and despite how ridiculous his shows can be, maybe you should quit shutting it off before the "Final Thought" and actually pay attention to that part rather than the fake blondes duking it out on stage.

The ruling on plural marriage and the wisdom behind it

Question:

I was really into becoming a Muslim. I came to this site to find out how to become Muslim, on doing so I found out alot about the religion I never knew before, and it's kind of disturbing and almost a let down. I'm sorry I feel like that but it's true. One of the things that bother me is the polygamy thing, I would like to know where it addresses that in the Holy Qu'ran, please try to give me tips on how to live like that and remain sane?

Answer:

Praise be to Allaah.

Allaah concluded His Message to mankind with the religion of Islam, and He tells us that He will not accept any religion other than that. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers”

[Aal ‘Imraan 3:85]

Your backing away from the religion of Islam is considered to be a loss for you, and a loss of the happiness that awaited you, had you entered Islam. You should hasten to enter Islam, and beware of delaying, for that delay may lead to regrettable consequences.

With regard to what you mention about the reason for your backing off being the idea of plural marriage [polygamy or polygyny], we will present to you the ruling on plural marriage in Islam, and then the wisdom and noble purposes behind it.

1 – The ruling on plural marriage in Islam:

The shar’i text which permits plural marriage is:

Allaah says in His Holy Book (interpretation of the meaning):

“And if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly with the orphan girls then marry (other) women of your choice, two or three, or four; but if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one or (slaves) that your right hands possess. That is nearer to prevent you from doing injustice”

[al-Nisa’ 4:3]

This is a Qur’aanic text which shows that plural marriage is allowed. According to Islamic sharee’ah, a man is permitted to marry one, two, three or four wives, in the sense that he may have this number of wives at one time. It is not permissible for him to have more than four. This was stated by the mufassireen (commentators on the Qur’aan) and fuqaha’ (jurists), and there is consensus among the Muslims on this point, with no differing opinions.

It should be noted that there are conditions attached to plural marriage:

1 – Justice or fairness.

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“but if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one”

[al-Nisa’ 4:3]

This aayah is indicates that just treatment is a condition for plural marriage to be permitted. If a man is afraid that he will not be able to treat his wives justly if he marries more than one, then it is forbidden for him to marry more than one. What is meant by the justice that is required in order for a man to be permitted to have more than one wife is that he should treat his wives equally in terms of spending, clothing, spending the night with them and other material things that are under his control.

With regard to justice or fairness in terms of love, he is not held accountable for that, and that is not required of him because he has no control over that. This is what is meant by the verse,

“You will never be able to do perfect justice between wives even if it is your ardent desire”

[al-Nisa’ 4:129 – interpretation of the meaning].

2 – The ability to spend on one’s wives:

The evidence for this condition is the verse:

“And let those who find not the financial means for marriage keep themselves chaste, until Allaah enriches them of His Bounty”

[al-Noor 24:33 – interpretation of the meaning]

In this verse Allaah commands those who are able to get married but cannot find the financial means, to remain chaste. One such example is not having enough money to pay the mahr (dowry) and not being able to spend on one’s wife. (al-Mufassal fi Ahkaam al-Mar’ah, part 6, p. 286).

2 – The wisdom behind permitting plural marriage

1 – Plural marriage helps to increase the numbers of the ummah (nation, Muslim community). It is known that the numbers can only be increased through marriage, and the number of offspring gained through plural marriage will be greater than that achieved through marriage to one wife.

Wise people know that increasing the number of offspring will strengthen the ummah and increase the number of workers in it, which will raise its economic standard – if the leaders run the affairs of state well and make use of its resources in a proper manner. Ignore the claims of those who say that increasing the numbers of human beings poses a danger to the earth’s resources which are insufficient, for Allaah the Most Wise Who has prescribed plural marriage has guaranteed to provide provision for His slaves and has created on earth what is more than sufficient for them. Whatever shortfall exists is due to the injustice of administrations, governments and individuals, and due to bad management. Look at China, for example, the greatest nation on earth as far as number of inhabitants is concerned, and it is regarded as one of the strongest nations in the world, and other nations would think twice before upsetting China; it is also one of the great industrialized nations. Who would dare think of attacking China, I wonder? And why?

2 – Statistics show that the number of women is greater than the number of men; if each man were to marry just one woman, this would mean that some women would be left without a husband, which would have a harmful effect on her and on society:

The harmful effect is that she would never find a husband to take care of her interests, to give her a place to live, to spend on her, to protect her from haraam desires, and to give her children to bring her joy. This may lead to deviance and going astray, except for those on whom Allaah has mercy.

With regard to the harmful effects on society, it is well known that this woman who is left without a husband may deviate from the straight path and follow the ways of promiscuity, so she may fall into the swamp of adultery and prostitution – may Allaah keep us safe and sound – which leads to the spread of immorality and the emergence of fatal diseases such as AIDS and other contagious diseases for which there is no cure. It also leads to family breakdown and the birth of children whose identity is unknown, and who do not know who their fathers are.

Those children do not find anyone to show compassion towards them or any mature man to raise them properly. When they go out into the world and find out the truth, that they are illegitimate, that is reflected in their behaviour, and they become exposed to deviance and going astray. They may even bear grudges against society, and who knows? They may become the means of their country’s destruction, leaders of deviant gangs, as is the case in many nations in the world.

3 – Men are exposed to incidents that may end their lives, for they work in dangerous professions. They are the soldiers who fight in battle, and more men may die than women. This is one of the things that raise the percentage of husbandless women, and the only solution to this problem is plural marriage.

4 – There are some men who may have strong physical desires, for whom one wife is not enough. If the door is closed to such a man and he is told, you are not allowed more than one wife, this will cause great hardship to him, and his desire may find outlets in forbidden ways.

In addition to that, a woman menstruates each month, and when she gives birth, she bleeds for forty days (this post-partum bleeding is called nifaas in Arabic), at which time a man cannot have intercourse with his wife, because intercourse at the time of menstruation or nifaas is forbidden, and the harm that it causes has been proven medically. So plural marriage is permitted when one is able to be fair and just.

5 – Plural marriage does not exist only in the Islamic religion, rather it was known among the previous nations. Some of the Prophets were married to more than one woman. The Prophet of Allaah Sulaymaan (Solomon) had ninety wives. At the time of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), there were some men who became Muslims who had eight or five wives. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) told them to keep four wives and to divorce the rest.

6 – A wife may be barren, or she may not meet her husband’s needs, or he may be unable to have intercourse with her because she is sick. A husband may long to have children, which is a legitimate desire, and he may want to have a sex life within marriage, which is something permissible, and the only way is to marry another wife. It is only fair for the wife to agree to remain his wife and to allow him to marry another.

7 – A woman may be one of the man’s relatives and have no one to look after her, and she is unmarried or a widow whose husband has died, and the man may think that the best thing to do for her is to include her in his household as a wife along with his first wife, so that he will both keep her chaste and spend on her. This is better for her than leaving her alone and being content only to spend on her.

8 – There are other shar’i interests that call for plural marriages, such as strengthening the bonds between families, or strengthening the bonds between a leader and some of his people or group, and he may think that one of the ways of achieving this aim is to become related to them through marriage, even if that is through plural marriage.

Objection:

Some people may object and say that plural marriage means having co-wives in one house, and that the disputes and enmity that may arise between co-wives will have an effect on the husband, children and others, and this is harmful and should be avoided, and the only way to prevent that is to ban plural marriage.

Response to the objection:

The response to that is that family arguments may occur even when there is only one wife, and they may not even happen when there is more than one wife, as we see in real life. Even if we assume that there may be more arguments than in a marriage to one wife, even if we accept that they may be harmful and bad, the harm is outweighed by the many good things in a plural marriage. Life is not entirely bad or entirely good, but what everyone hopes is that the good will outweigh the bad, and this principle is what applies in the permission for plural marriage.

Moreover, each wife has the right to her own, separate accommodation as prescribed in Islam. It is not permissible for the husband to force his wives to live together in one house.

Another objection:

If we allow men to have plural wives, why are women not allowed to have multiple husbands, why does a woman not have the right to marry more than one man?

Response to this objection:

There is no point in giving a woman the right to marry multiple husbands, rather that is beneath her dignity and she would not know the lineage of her children, because she is the one who bears the offspring, and it is not permissible for the offspring to be formed from the sperm of a number of men lest the lineage of the child be lost and no one will know who is responsible for bringing up the child; this will lead to breakdown of families, loss of ties between fathers and children, which is not permitted in Islam as it is not in the interests of the woman or of the child or of society as a whole.

Al-Mufassal fi Ahkaam al-Mar’ah, part 6, p. 290

Islam Q&A
Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid (www.islam-qa.com)

Originally posted by tb1
. . . . . . . . . .

I guess we will have six kind of men in this forum.

. . . . . . . . . .

We will also have two kind of women.

. . . . . . . . . .

I don't know who belongs to which category.

. . . . . . . . . . Let me guess. . . . . . . . . . . . .

You are thirteen.
You have everything figured out.
You must educate this forums' members.

:rolleyes:

APEXwareAnd guys are no worse than girls that's for sure. I hate it when girls say 'men are dogs' and things like that. You should say 'people are dogs.' Because it goes both ways. Some hardcore slutty gals out there.. Ever heard of Puck Bunnies?I guess you really didn't read what I wrote... woman who tend to refer to men as dogs already hate men, most likely because they had a father who cheated on their mother.. or worse, had some form of physical or mental abuse at some point in their lives. I also noted, that from as far as I can tell.. men who do the same, ie. cheat and have multiple partners, most likely have also suffered from that same abuse. There is a point where each of us as human beings need to use our logic, from how I see it, those that are acting in such ways that start abusing others in their lives must have been abused or have some type of frontal lobe retardation.

Ana Rajul, what was that all about.. are you agreeing with what you posted or what? All of the text that you posted here is such that has made me laugh hysterically that some religions are just so outdated. If you agree, please let us know and why.. I'd like to make a post on each of those sad/pathetic reasons Islam thinks its ok to have multiple wives. LOL :rolleyes:

As for tb1, you have to be a child or refer to the above (frontal lobe retardation)... I can't think of any other reason why your thought process would be so diluted. Now you are typing out strange and unrealistic events to get your point across. I can't neglect to think that you probably lack some form of acceptance in your life and thus have such relationship problems/inability to get the most out of a (single) relationship. :(

Now how in the world did I get myself involved in this thread... :emlaugh:

lol SoftWareRevue that was a good response.

LOLOL this thread is getting to be too much now.

I think someone has been reading to many mags and has been day dreaming a little too much. Funny thing about all this is that I have run across allot of guys that think like tb1, that is until they get to experience real life. Once you lose a wife or family and everything you thought you had then your attitude seems to change.

I have a feeling that tb1 will learn the hard way and someday he will have his world crushed by someone he took for granted.
Until then he will think life is a game.

Originally posted by Ana Rajul
2 – The ability to spend on one’s wives:

The evidence for this condition is the verse:

“And let those who find not the financial means for marriage keep themselves chaste, until Allaah enriches them of His Bounty”

[al-Noor 24:33 – interpretation of the meaning]

In this verse Allaah commands those who are able to get married but cannot find the financial means, to remain chaste. One such example is not having enough money to pay the mahr (dowry) and not being able to spend on one’s wife. (al-Mufassal fi Ahkaam al-Mar’ah, part 6, p. 286).

2 – The wisdom behind permitting plural marriage

1 – Plural marriage helps to increase the numbers of the ummah (nation, Muslim community). It is known that the numbers can only be increased through marriage, and the number of offspring gained through plural marriage will be greater than that achieved through marriage to one wife.

Wise people know that increasing the number of offspring will strengthen the ummah and increase the number of workers in it, which will raise its economic standard – if the leaders run the affairs of state well and make use of its resources in a proper manner. Ignore the claims of those who say that increasing the numbers of human beings poses a danger to the earth’s resources which are insufficient, for Allaah the Most Wise Who has prescribed plural marriage has guaranteed to provide provision for His slaves and has created on earth what is more than sufficient for them. Whatever shortfall exists is due to ..... I won't quote the whole thing ......

I haven't seen a thread go this far off topic in a while... LOL

I've been with my fiance 5 years this October (she does live in Canada and I am in the UK) but I cannot imagine wanting to sleep with anyone else.

I may be 24 this september, and she was my first, but I am not the kinda guy who sees a woman as a means of self relief like that. I like to be able to talk to her about anything and everything. Sex is just a small part of what makes up a relationship.

James

Originally posted by tb1
i love you all.

Yeah, right. That's what you always say. Why don't I believe you anymore?

What happened to us? Where did it all go wrong? You say you love me but then I hear rumors from other WHT members that they've seen you posting in other forums. You told me you'd only post here, but I've got links to other forums that show you've been posting THERE when you were supposed to be WITH ME!

I can't take this anymore. I'm tired of being hurt by you. You're out there posting around, while I sit here like a dope being completely faithful.

I check my PM's every few minutes, hoping there will be a message from you there, but what do I find? Nothing.

You've used me, and I'm starting to hate myself for it. Why have I let this go on? Why have I been so stupid? There used to be something special between us that made me happy and filled me up inside, but now I just feel empty.

I promised myself I wouldn't do this. I promised myself I wouldn't cry over your WHT posts anymore. But it hurts too much. Yes, I know what you said about having to sew your wild posts -- but I thought those days were over. I thought when I forgave you last time that you had changed...but I guess not.

Is this what has become of us? Is this the end?

What a fool I've been.

Touche'

:D

LOL @ hostpath.com. Very Nice. :D

Originally posted by tb1
Let's suppose that after working long hours,
dealing with customers and configuring servers,
two beautiful skinny blonde tall girls supposedly show up where you work

Any beautiful skinny blonde tall girls here on the forums that wanna come up to me? I'll make it the best night of your life. Just dont invite my wife :D

Reading this guy's post, the words 'pathetic wanker' keep surfacing, particularly all that nonsense about the models showing up and offering the ultimate male fantasy to him. Okay, and the words 'fat chance' too.

Originally posted by Phoenix
Reading this guy's post, the words 'pathetic wanker' keep surfacing,

Yeah I agree. I just hope he remembers to wipe down the machines after his daytime fantasies.


Okay, and the words 'fat chance' too.

Yeah, for most men. Happens to me all the time though.
*shrugs*
At times it sucks to be God's gift to women :D

I think what tb1 have said in his original post (accept his false imaginations follow-ups :D) is more realistic and practical in many peoples life.

I guess what he is saying is not totally right and may not be acceptable by society but there is sense in what he says. I agree with Elena and James but it depends upon person to person.

Well, I can not decide what is wrong and write at this moment because I have never been involved with any girl very deeply.

Originally posted by hostpath.com
[zip]hat a fool I've been.
LOL, Hostpath...is that the sound of experience I hear?
Very good :stickout

Isnt the real question?

"Whats love got to do, got to do with it"

hehe me runs and hides...

Originally posted by tb1
Let's suppose that after working long hours,
dealing with customers and configuring servers,
two beautiful skinny blonde tall girls supposedly show up where you work
in the server room. Everyone left by then. You are bended over
the keyboard, with the last slice of pizza getting dry with the extremities bending
upwards, the beeper going crazy and the unanswered e-mails keep coming.

I'd wonder how they got past the Cameras and Biometric Scanners. Then i'd get them to help out on support as it sounds far too busy.

Gee man - get yourself off to Bangkok or some other equally salubrious location for a while - you'll soon see where you were better off.

You compare it to a CD. That might be the perfect comparison. Sure, you buy CD after CD and many you get tired of it after a month, or maybe 6 months. But there is always that one CD that you just keep playing. Maybe it's an old Led Zep CD, or Frank Sinatra. It's finding the one that you just want to keep listening to forever.

After the first post, some people stated very politely that they were
thinking differently from me and offered some alternative and constructive
suggestions. I would like to thank you very much for the time
you took writing, giving me very unique and different points of view.

Some others truthfully opened up talking about their life experiences.
I also greatly appreciated the comments from those gentlemen very much,
as I think the majority of us. It takes some smart people to really
stay focused on the issue and answer questions finding out solutions.

In my second post I wanted to know what people will do in the hypothetical
situation i presented.

Unfortunately very few gave us their number. Never be imbarassed of what you think.
But the number was really the key to understand where each of us stands.
Some very smart people of course have understood since the beginning that the situation and issue is not about sex. And these are the people that have helped me the most. Furthermore, the same smart people have understood that it is not a man vs woman problem.

It is like having a cake in from of you.

1. Some people will know that is not healthy to eat it all,
but they will eat it all anyway.

2. Some people will know that they are not going to look fit if they eat it all,
but they will eat it all anyway.

3. Some people that are concerned about their health or look,
will just eat a piece, also if they may want it all.

4. Some people that are fit and healthy and never had an entire cake,
they may go for it this time.

again, some people will insult the person calling he/her fat pig and say he/she eats because he/she has eating disorders, was abused when she was young, has low self-esteem, he/she belongs to j. springer etc.

others will totally understand what the issues is and
find solutions and alternative outcomes, like:

buy a cake made with healthy ingredients that contains very low fat, like whole
wheat flour, make it puffy so there is a lot of air in it and less content etc.
or they could say eat it, but then at the gym this week, work out twice.
or they can say eat the cake after a meal so you may eat less of it.

i love you all

the funny comments will always have a special place in my heart, like the mask.
the infamous mask is the winner so far.

hah

lol just get a girl and stick with it.. i dont think you want to deal with the mess that you get once they find out what you've been doing :D

It varies with generations. LOL. What are you people gonna say when 5 generations from now when kids will bang like an everyday activity?

Switch it up bud... give it a little time away and hold off from boinking her and when you do it again it will be same good good good to go stuff you had.

Taking a break from sex is sometimes good. :D

WTH?

Yeah, lay off on the sex. The fun will return.

JTY, I tried but can't layoffffffff :D

mahinder,

LOL. Yeah, I know what you mean... :D

Hmmm.. some of you seem deeply rooted in religious ideals. Getting upset by his post, or saying he belongs on Springer. That's ridiculous. These are honest, genuine feelings. I have had them myself. I have come to believe that one problem is that man is an ANIMAL. Literally. Look to nature. I live in an area full of outdoors and wonderful creatures running wild. If you watch how they mate, you will understand mans need to "spread his seed." It is instinct. An internal urge to spread your seed is a basis for survival. Religions around the world have spent thousands of years trying to kill this primal urge in us, and have some what succeeded; i think for some of us the urge is more prominant than in others. I don't think it's fair to judge someone because of these types of feelings and tell them they need to be on Springer. That's not the best way to HELP someone.

I say, if you're not happy try something new. It would be noble of you to not cheat on a current girlfriend. Break up with her, and go out and find sleazy women to have one-nighters with. I did this a bit last summer. I got the urge out, and am now faithful to my current girlfriend. Just be sure to be safe in whatever you do.

Now, if for some reason you are attached to this current person, then maybe you should try and "play" a bit more. See if she's willing to dress up for you. wear a wig. a strange outfit, or whatever. it's called roleplaying. it works rather well. I saw this show on MTV where people dress up in costumes like you see at Disneyland. They are usually animals, and call themselves Furry's. They slice holes in their suits and make mad love acting as rabbit's, bears, wolves or whatever animal you like! Maybe this is for you! Maybe screwing minnie mouse is more to your liking? who knows? Experiment!!!!

I wish you well. All of you, including , myself. I can't help but lust after beautiful young ladies and imagine myself submerged in an ocean of sweet female juices! :stickout

-M

I have come to believe that one problem is that man is an ANIMAL. Literally. Look to nature.

Here is an interesting article from Salon.com ..
http://www.salon.com/health/sex/urge/1999/08/31/houston/print.html Maybe a little more insight than some of us need.

Originally posted by Magnet Eye
Hmmm.. some of you seem deeply rooted in religious ideals. Getting upset by his post, or saying he belongs on Springer. That's ridiculous.I sure hope you weren't basing what you said on me or what I posted. Deeply rooted in religious beliefs... heh. Both my parents are atheist and so am I.. so if there was any religious reasons for my posting I'd sure like to know seeing how I've never really looked into religion and most of the people I associate with are also atheist.
These are honest, genuine feelings. I have had them myself.Has anyone said otherwise? Don't you think we all have them? Just because most here reject the idea of sleeping with multiple partners does not mean these very same people don't have sex multiple times throughout the day with the same partner. :rolleyes: The main point I was driving at is in our society having a partner and then sleeping with many of others behind that partners back is not cool.
I have come to believe that one problem is that man is an ANIMAL. Literally. Look to nature. I live in an area full of outdoors and wonderful creatures running wild. If you watch how they mate, you will understand mans need to "spread his seed." It is instinct. An internal urge to spread your seed is a basis for survival.I really find it funny that you compare yourself to a wild animal... mainly because most humans are not wild and have enough mental capacity to control such urges. The reason for control? Well.. there are many. Birth control, disease control, etc. etc. And if you think (not saying that you do) you are safe by strapping on a condom then you are just an idiot, plain and simple.

Your "spread his seed" theory may have had some value some thousand years ago, look at the human population today and again.. if you believe you need to spread your seed for survival, then again... you're an idiot.
Religions around the world have spent thousands of years trying to kill this primal urge in us, and have some what succeeded;I don't know much on this subject.. but actually I think, from what I've heard, that Jesus or someone said "go forth and be fruitful"... LOL Not to mention what was posted here about Islam and that having multiple wives is soo necessary in our world today. ROFLOL
i think for some of us the urge is more prominant than in others.The urge may be more prominant in others... but you can't judge that on the amount of sex partners an individual may have. I think that many people who are committed in relationships have very strong urges and share them with each other out of respect and just pure intelligence (do I even have to remind you about disease again?).
I don't think it's fair to judge someone because of these types of feelings and tell them they need to be on Springer. That's not the best way to HELP someone.Very true.. it might not be very helpful, but it gets the point across that having multiple sex partners in this day and age is dangerous and not accepted by the majority who are more interested in keeping AIDS and other such diseases under control. The people who are on Springer tend to be kind of mental.. which was why I said that if the original poster in this thread is having obsessive/compulsive problems and some commitment issues too obvioulsy, then he should probably go out and see a shrink.

Sorry.. but all this talk about how you are an animal and somehow need to spread your seed so humans won't go extinct (LOL) I just find it sooo horribly funny it amazes me that there are these types of people walking around. Ok, if you live in an area where the infant mortality rate is high.. then I agree about sowing your seeds to keep your local population alive.. however I don't think any of those groups are rich enough to have the Internet.. or have time to post on a forum.. for that matter... i.e. you don't belong in that group. :rolleyes:

WTF? Elena , First off I was NEVER aiming my post towards YOU. So lay the hell off. Second, you obviously didn't get it.

For one I never said man is a "Wild Animal," I said an "animal." You threw in the "wild" for your own advantage I guess. Anyway, what I was getting at was the fact that we USED to be that way, and I am talking about how things were, and how there are still instincts residing in us. Humankind has all sorts of natural "instincts" within. Such as the "instinct" for babies to suck on a mothers breast. If you place your finger or anything at their mouth, their "instinct" is to suck. to eat. to survive. If you think that there is nothing left of a "wild" animal in us, then you are blind. We could go on for hours about the animal in mankind. People kill. they steal, they do lots of things that seem wrong or that we don't understand. A lot of it has to do with the fact we are, at heart, still animals. I believe it is all part of the "SURVIVAL INSTINCT" in us. And so is the males underlying instinct to "spread his seed" whether he knows it or not. Women have the same survival "instinct," that's why they want to mother. It comes to every woman at some point in their lives. Most women,when they get older, get FRANTIC if they haven't had child yet. (Perhaps you might want to pick up some books on Sociology, and the Human Animal.)

Also, I never said anything regarding you and religion. I too am an aetheist. Being aethistic doesn't matter. You grow up in a mostly Christian society, with Christian values. Even as an aetheist you have their ideologies embedded in you. Being faithful (key word FAITH) to someone stems from the idea of marriage, a religious belief. Mind you, I DO NOT think it's fair to cheat on your partner. This stems from what was imbedded in me. Mostly based on Christian morals. Unfortunately I didn't grow up a Pagan! Damn!

Lastly, take not that I was generalizing my post to what I read from other people. It was NOT targeted at anyone, nor was it supposed to be entirely serious.

Thanks for the response "Elena", and maybe next time you should refrain from calling someone an "idiot" over and over without even knowing the person, or properly understanding what they were trying to convey in the first place.

-M

First, I said "I sure hope" in which I was hoping you weren't taking into context what I had posted when you posted yours. Thanks for clearing that up and showing that what I said didn't influence your post at all. Not sure which part angered you.. which wasn't what I wanted to have happen.. but it happened anyway for unknown reasons, maybe you took this way too personally maybe? :rolleyes:

"You threw in the "wild" for your own advantage I guess."
My own advantage? To what? This is just some really stupid thread in the lounge that doesn't even have much value.. LOL you are taking this way too seriously. I only come and post here on my breaks... somehow got involved in this thread and thought it was pretty funny the different attitudes people have and how some get really excited over it. Nothing we say is going to change tb1's attitude and what he wants to do.. d'oi he's probably already lost interest in this thread like he does with his girlfriends..

I'm not in any way saying that we don't have urges or that we don't have animal instict.. the contrary.. I am saying that we have enough brains to know that we are having these instincts and to refrain from such for our benefit and the benefit of society as a whole.

I don't know how you think my ideas on not having sex with multiple partners stems from anything Christian.. it stems from the fact that if you have careless sex with multiple partners you are just seeking out disease and the spread of those diseases. Do you really think you can see mites/crabs on a person? Do you really think that genital warts or herpes is apparent just by looking someone over? There are soooo many nasty diseases that are spread without even knowing it.. with the use of condoms. That's all I was saying really.. that people with this type of lifestyle are just asking for it.. and will most definetely hurt alot of people who have trust in a relationship not knowing the careless past their partner has had or is having, basically the only problem I saw with what the original poster stated about what he wanted to do.

Aside from the first paragraph of your first post.. I didn't disagree at all with what you had to say, and that's why I didn't quote or respond to that. Lust and imagine all you want.. :)

I only said if you think that... and never said that you truelly did... so if you don't think that, then you aren't an idiot.. ok? You misread that part of my post obvioulsy and so I guess that's why you are so angry.. I wasn't straight out calling you or anyone else an idiot. eash.. :D

Originally posted by Elena
. . . . . . . . Lust and imagine all you want.. . . . . . :pimp: Well, if you insist. :love:

LOL you are taking this way too seriously

Well that's interesting...that's what I was thinking about YOU when you posted that reply of yours. I was like, "What the hell?" I wondered why you "attacked" me. Anyway, no foul. I don't care, and my post wasn't supposed to be a reflection of any anger towards you, Elena. But I had to say something. I admit, the use of words like "idiot" multiple times seemed a bit odd, and I wasn't going to just sit back and revel in that abuse!:bawling:

No, I didn't think it was anything Christian either. I was just talking about that in a GENERAL sense. We are in a Christian world..many of us, and it is part of our lives whether or not we want it. You live in CA, as do I. I was born and raised here. I know how things are.:cool:

Anyway, we all have our opinions, and thoughts, etc.. I think that the original poster definately has some real funny things to say. I think some of it is close to reality as well. Life is interesting.

Anyway, hey...I like your website. :)

-M

"If time is money, I'm going broke!"

Here's a way to inject some "newness" into your relations:

First, buy her a strap on.
Then, apply plenty of lube.
Next, get on the floor on your hands and knees...

The most important thing for a man to know is, that when you are with a woman ( any woman ) is to make sure she knows that she is the center of your attention, and the only one in your attention. Atleast for that moment that you are together with her.

in my wild day in the 80's, following the above got me into no trouble, and I had a very nice boy rap. Never once did I ever have to kiss and tell. nor did I ever have to worry about a date.

Mike

Hostpath:

First, buy her a strap on.
Then, apply plenty of lube.
Next, get on the floor on your hands and knees...



in my wild day in the 80's, following the above got me into no trouble, and I had a very nice boy rap.

Well, you once had a nice boy rap here as well Mike. :eek:

Originally posted by ADEhost
The most important thing for a man to know is, that when you are with a woman ( any woman ) is to make sure she knows that she is the center of your attention, and the only one in your attention.

Yes, I agree with ADEhost: once you learn to fake sincerity, you've got it made!

This whole thread should be an episode on JerrySpringOnline.com (except it may actually be too tame)
You've got all the veribles contained herein. From one extreme to the logical, and back to the other extreme with anyone who does not agree taking offense to those who voice their opinion.
Can't we all just treat our bodies, and therfore our intended mates with respect?

It is like the locker-room, when everybody goes home we know who is in control. You can bet that those with the most profane comments either don't have a significant other or are completely enthralled by their mate. :D