I just got hacked, took control of all my files, and all, any software i can download.

Is it your own server? If so, boot the server up on Single user mode and switch the root password. If it is your own site, contact your host and get him to change the password so you can get access. Get your host to check the access logs and get the IP address of the person who entered your site. Report him to his local ISP by doing a Trace route.

Most hacks to websites (If they are Virtual host) are done by Brute Force, be sure that you password contains both lower case, upper case, and Symbols. A password such as: D3f%gT@ takes about 1-2 months to break on a pent III 800mhz (If the hacker has the shadow file). A password like that is near impossible to hack in a brute force attack.

I really should have been more clear,

My computer got hacked when i got on the forum, then about 4 minutes later, someone was playing with my mouse, my start up bar, and my files, maybe they were using the program that mafiaboy made up called something or another.

I apologize, I suppose I just have Servers on the brain.

Download ZoneAlarm then you will be able to tell when any program is trying to access a network connection. You must have downloaded a Trojan if they are playing with you mouse etc.

You downloading hamster pornography again? Pretty cool eh? I got a good stash myself.


Oh, yeah ZoneAlarm should work great.

I downloaded that (or something similar) a while ago... Whenever I had it running it would go crazy whenever someone would call me on ICQ, MSN Mess. etc..

Just a question to people who use it.. Is there a way for it to let chat through but stop the nasties? Or is that still considered an intrusion?

Greg Moore

I'm not sure about zone alarm type firewalls, never used them. However firewalls like Norton Security, or Mcafee firewall are highly configurable. (Actually blocked my Modem from getting an IP address once with NS :).

You can configure both of those programs to allow certain ports with out setting off a bunch of alarms. All you need to do to find out what ports those programs run on is:

1) Actually look at the support docs for the program.
2) Send our a message to someone while you have your dos window open, and type "netstat" after you have sent the message. that will tell you what open connections you have on your computer.

Jason,

Thanks. I'll keep that in mind. :)

Greg Moore

Thanks, I found out what was going on, stupid, prank hackers.

I am using the Pro version and yes you can allow certain Chat or PM's to access without it setting off an alarm. This also works in the Regular version. You decide what has access to and from your machine and what doesn't. Best of all the standard version is FREE and works just as good if not better than any of it's commercial counterparts. I use the pro version on my LAN and have not had any problems yet. Alot of hack attempts but it totally stealths the machine to the outside world.

X-treme

You should try using a Linksys Router. Fairly cheap, around $50.00 or so. Great security, and very easy to install. No worries of firewall failure, or putting a firewall on each computer on the network. Also allows more then one computer to get onto the internet with one IP address.

Akashik --> Thats the same reason why I dun like firewalls ;)


TheComputerGuy --> What was it? A trojan?

yeah.

Originally posted by Jason_Berresford
You should try using a Linksys Router. Fairly cheap, around $50.00 or so. Great security, and very easy to install. No worries of firewall failure, or putting a firewall on each computer on the network. Also allows more then one computer to get onto the internet with one IP address.

First, yes you can configure zonealarm to let the chat through and block the nasties (as you put it).

Second, re: the post above. I would like to access the files and get them off my laptop from my main computer (my new one). I bought a hub, realizing that this wouldn't allow both computers to use the DSL connection.

What I want:

Initially, connect both computers so that I can get all files off the laptop.

Connect both computers to the net at the same time (eventaully, after I get all the files off the laptop and reinstall the original software so my wife can use it as her computer).

Possibly allow the use of MsWord on the laptop from my computer and possibly allow her to print directly from the laptop to the printer (which is connected to my computer).

Now I'm fairly certain I need a 4 port router/switch/hub combo but not certain which one. The cheapest I've seen something is for around $130 off the web, and I just want to be sure there isn't a $50 solution to this.

Originally posted by X-treme
Best of all the standard version is FREE and works just as good if not better than any of it's commercial counterparts.

X-treme,

Thanks - off to ZoneLabs right now.

Greg Moore

* Jason Bows to chicken's know-how *

You are right my friend, my quote was way off :)

http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/subclass.asp?logon=&langid=EN&affid=&dept=0&WLBS=003P1A&mscsid=WH0WR8L78G7F9N342934GNJ5DDPKD19B&search=KWS

That link is a company in canada, so prices are in Canadian, so it can give you an idea of prices. The Linksys Etherfast Cable/DSL Router is what you want to get for good security.

A hub is good, however bad security. Well I shouldn't say that, its bad security if you want to have both computers talking to each other (IE print/file sharing) With the Linksys etherfast cable/dsl router will allow you to leave your file/print sharing open, with out throwing security out the window. I'm glad chicken cought we on that pricing. I was way off :) I think perhaps I was thinking about the Linksys Switches when i gave that price :)


P.S here is a link to a US store that sells them:
http://shop1.outpost.com/search?search_type=regular&session_id=&engine_id=&system_cgi=&resultpage=0&form%25destination=%2Ftemplates%2FOutpost%2Fsearch%2Fsearch_results.tmpl&form%25destination_type=template&form%25searchmode=FullText&form%25sortby=MANUFACTURER&form%25sortorder=asc&form%25sortby2=NAME&form%25sortorder2=asc&form%25maxitem=500&form%25bv_content_content_type=0&form%25new_query=YES&query_string=linksys+router

Its a long link :)

:) you should have at least one firewall, as what others have said zonealarm is good inusrance for your puter.

as for me i have 3, a linksys router, black ice and zonealarm :P


elijaH

Ok,

I went, I downloaded, I installed. :) I see what you mean now - it asks when something tries to connect to the net if I should let it.. Very impressed.

Greg Moore

I like the software someone recommened today, very impressed, indeed, it asked me wheater i should allow it to go through the lock times.














Akashik would you contact me via ICQ 99164035 thanks
Chris

Jason, that outpost link is similar to the one I have. Same place, just slightly different path to get there:

http://shop1.outpost.com/category/Outpost/PCtab/Networking/

I was looking to buy the first one on the page. What do you think?

Well, it might be out of the topic... but since I saw chicken was confused about which router to get, I found these link before we bought ours (we use netgear rt314)
(btw, I just do a cut and paste from my old email I send to my friend)....
And since I am new here, I am not sure how this link will look like neither.... so here they are:

http://www.hardwarecentral.com/hardwarecentral/reviews/1748/4/ (for RT311 -- no switch)
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/reviews/netgear_rt314.asp
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/reviews/linksys_81.asp (8 port)
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/reviews/linksys_router.asp (4 port)


http://www.practicallynetworked.com/reviews/ug3200p.asp (you may find this interesting... with built-in printer server for windows---umax)


http://www.practicallynetworked.com/reviews/netgear_rt311.asp (NetGear RT311)


and more review at this link: http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/hwrouter_chart.htm

Chicken, I dun think you would be needing a HUB and any other such thing, if the distance between the 2 computers was small. I have setup a LAN at my place, and I can print and use the same net connection for both. All I did was, setup a LAN and a proxy. And wola, it was all ready to go.

Kunal is rite. If you are running a lan at home your cheapest option is to run one system as your router/server/whatever, put in a proxy server

http://home.ntware.com/server/s-_proxy.html

and just connect the two sytems up linear.

If you are running more than 2 sytems, the Linksys Router is probably your best bet. It works as both a firewall and a dhcp server, so you have very little configuration to do.

Or buy an old 486 install a unix distribution (or Linux if you prefer ) and set it up as a firewall/ server then network off of this.

The Possibilities are endless..

$99.95* @ http://www.computers4sure.com/store/Linksys_routers.asp

Originally posted by Exbodyguard
$99.95* @ http://www.computers4sure.com/store/Linksys_routers.asp

Well I don't know what the '*' means, other than when you click buy, the price is suddenly $129.95, not $99.95??? :confused:

Chicken,

The * means this my fine feathered friend:
http://www.computers4sure.com/RebateInfo.asp?RebateId=1497
$30 cash rebate if you buy before the 19th

6 months of living in the states and shopping at CompUSA and Circuit City taught me how to dig out all the info on rebates :)

Greg Moore

Just get yourself an old 486 and setup linux with IP masquerading, pmfirewall and Portsentry. You get total control of what you let in and what you don't. You can't get a more secure setup than that!

PS: It's "I just got cracked" NOT hacked. :)

Does anyone use Proxy+ http://www.proxyplus.cz/ ? How effective is this as a firewall?

Originally posted by tabernack
PS: It's "I just got cracked" NOT hacked. :)

:beer: :angel:

Originally posted by akashik
Chicken,

The * means this my fine feathered friend:
http://www.computers4sure.com/RebateInfo.asp?RebateId=1497
$30 cash rebate if you buy before the 19th

6 months of living in the states and shopping at CompUSA and Circuit City taught me how to dig out all the info on rebates :)

Greg Moore

I couldn't find what the "*" went to!!! Arrrrggggh! Yeah, those wonderful CompUSA rebates. I just got burned by that. Totally forgot to send in a rebate form, DOH! Also, *just* got my monitor rebate of $30 back, heh. I can't recall when I bought that puppy, but it was some time ago. They sure didn't rush that one back to me.

Thanks for finding it.. looks good for $99 :)

Also, *just* got my monitor rebate of $30 back, heh. I can't recall when I bought that puppy, but it was some time ago. They sure didn't rush that one back to me.


Thats Compusa for you Chicken. Bough a modem about a year ago and I just got my $30 rebate in the mail this week. Totally forgot about it as well.

I bet they use that rebat to play the stock market. By the time we get it, they make twice as much.

Maybe the hosting industry should start offering rebates :D

Originally posted by Chicken
Originally posted by akashik
Chicken,

The * means this my fine feathered friend:
http://www.computers4sure.com/RebateInfo.asp?RebateId=1497
$30 cash rebate if you buy before the 19th

6 months of living in the states and shopping at CompUSA and Circuit City taught me how to dig out all the info on rebates :)

Greg Moore

I couldn't find what the "*" went to!!! Arrrrggggh! Yeah, those wonderful CompUSA rebates. I just got burned by that. Totally forgot to send in a rebate form, DOH! Also, *just* got my monitor rebate of $30 back, heh. I can't recall when I bought that puppy, but it was some time ago. They sure didn't rush that one back to me.

Thanks for finding it.. looks good for $99 :)



LOL, speaking of CompUsa :P i got me 2 64mb rams for FREE!, with the mail in rebate :P and 2 50pk cdrs free too :P

:beer:

Originally posted by vizi
Maybe the hosting industry should start offering rebates :D

Im going to use that idea of yers Vizi :P

:uzi:

How long did it take you to get your rebate Elijah? :)

Let me know how that rebate thing works out :)

I recommend two things for everyone. 1 purchase blackice defender, it is a great firewall. 2 Run virus scan once a week until you have messed around with a trojan you cant understand what power someone has over your computer.

Zach

Originally posted by elijah
LOL, speaking of CompUsa :P i got me 2 64mb rams for FREE!, with the mail in rebate :P and 2 50pk cdrs free too :P

Guess we should start another 'rebate' thread eh? Well, continuing the tangent, did any of ya' see the 200 pk of CD=R's free with rebate recently at errr... OfficeDepot? The store close to me was closing so of course they didn't have any in stock, blah!

Another good deal: CompUSA, Sprint PCS Touch Point flip phone, $129.00 with $50 CompUSA giftcard and Swiss Army watch.

Originally posted by vizi
How long did it take you to get your rebate Elijah? :)


lol... compusa rebates takes around 2-3 weeks, others are around 4 weeks 6 weeks tops...what you do is check out the saturdays/sundays newspaper ads section or flyers and look for rebate offers and when you buy the stuff just dont be shy to ask for that rebate coupon :P i always go to a guy cashier or to an ugly chick cashier, if its a hottie then i usually go around the store for a little bit...:P

:)

Originally posted by Chicken
Guess we should start another 'rebate' thread eh? Well, continuing the tangent, did any of ya' see the 200 pk of CD=R's free with rebate recently at errr... OfficeDepot? The store close to me was closing so of course they didn't have any in stock, blah!

Another good deal: CompUSA, Sprint PCS Touch Point flip phone, $129.00 with $50 CompUSA giftcard and Swiss Army watch. [/B]

:beer: fry's also have some pretty good deals, i remember i got a 10/100pcmcia linksys for my laptop for only $29. and i think they also offer blackIce for free after the 29 mail in thingy.

later.....

[QUOTE]if its a hottie then i usually go around the store for a little bit...:P
[QUOTE]

Am I the only one who sees something wrong with that?? *lmao*

I think my best rebate story so far was going in to get a scanner one day. Looked around and found the one I wanted. Was on the way out when I saw a mobile phone deal. Picked that up as well and got:

Free phone
Free coffee plunger
Free chocolates (it was Mother's Day)
and a hundred dollar cash rebate on anything in the store.

So in the end I got everything above, plus my scanner for $100 less than I would have paid for it.

Well the phone plan costs me, but I'd be using the phone anyway so it works out ok.

Greg Moore

Originally posted by akashik
Am I the only one who sees something wrong with that?? *lmao*

:D where i live its like a small town and everybody knows everyone and one day i was at compusa getting a cdrw and while i was trying to avoid --compusacounter#3, she called me and said hey elijah and im like oh no whatever so i went up to her and gave her my nickels :P and asked her if i can get the $50 rebate coupon for the cdrw , she laughed and laughed and she was telling all her friends at school that i was such a cheapskate and the girl i was going out with at school also told me about it and we friggin broke up :( all because of that stupid rebate.



So in the end I got everything above, plus my scanner for $100 less than I would have paid for it.

Well the phone plan costs me, but I'd be using the phone anyway so it works out ok.

Greg Moore

:beer:

Originally posted by akashik
Free coffee plunger

Coffee plunger? I will say that coffee does have a laxitative effect on the bowels, yet I've never heard of this being connected by name like that. :confused:

Originally posted by Chicken
Originally posted by akashik
Free coffee plunger

Coffee plunger? I will say that coffee does have a laxitative effect on the bowels, yet I've never heard of this being connected by name like that. :confused:

me too... what is a coffee plunger ? lol :)

Originally posted by TheComputerGuy
Thanks, I found out what was going on, stupid, prank hackers.

Did you delete the offending executable? Was it attached to a legitimate one?
In theory a firewall should stop it from communicating with the outside.
Bear in mind that unless you locate and remove the trojan, you will still be at risk, as there is no way of telling what it can do to your computer.

Coffee plunger? I will say that coffee does have a laxitative effect on the bowels, yet I've never heard of this being connected by name like that. :confused: [/B]

Chicken,

http://www.coffeecomplex.com.au/pedia/brewingplunger.html

I had thought it was a universal term, but a quick net search seems to reveal otherwise. :) Above is a brief description.

Greg Moore

she laughed and laughed and she was telling all her friends at school that i was such a cheapskate and the girl i was going out with at school also told me about it and we friggin broke up :( all because of that stupid rebate.
[/B]

Damn, that's harsh... I see your point now of course. Never fear though, I'm sure you'll find a girl one day who'll love you for your big ... rebates *evil grin*

Greg Moore

inserts the word, coffe bean?

Yeah i deleted it. it was a file no meant to be there.

www.smoothwall.org

let them get passed this one :)

i have zonealarm and it catches about 20 hack attempts a day :eek: