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allan
07-12-2002, 08:29 AM
Hey all -- I am having a problem with a domain name. I am sure it is something simple, but I can't figure it out...so I'd like someone to double check for me.

The two domains are:

www.hwr.us
www.hostingweatherrerport.com

Both point to the same website.

www.hostingweatherreport.com works just fine, I can ping and get to the website no problem.

www.hwr.us does not seem to work. I cannot ping the address, or reach the website.

I checked www.whois.us, and it lists the correct nameservers:

ns1.vbind.com
ns1.everydns.net
ns2.everydns.net

The DNS servers seem to be showing the correct information:


[root@test root]# dig @ns1.vbind.com www.hwr.us A

; <<>> DiG 9.1.3 <<>> @ns1.vbind.com www.hwr.us A
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 45071
;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 1

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.hwr.us. IN A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.hwr.us. 38400 IN A 66.150.201.102

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
hwr.us. 38400 IN NS ns1.vbind.com.
hwr.us. 38400 IN NS ns1.everydns.net.
hwr.us. 38400 IN NS ns2.everydns.net.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ns1.vbind.com. 38400 IN A 66.150.201.103

;; Query time: 211 msec
;; SERVER: 66.150.201.103#53(ns1.vbind.com)
;; WHEN: Fri Jul 12 07:30:54 2002
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 135



[root@test root]# dig @ns1.everydns.net www.hwr.us A

; <<>> DiG 9.1.3 <<>> @ns1.everydns.net www.hwr.us A
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 40144
;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 2

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.hwr.us. IN A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.hwr.us. 38400 IN A 66.150.201.102

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
hwr.us. 38400 IN NS ns1.vbind.com.
hwr.us. 38400 IN NS ns1.everydns.net.
hwr.us. 38400 IN NS ns2.everydns.net.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
ns1.everydns.net. 86400 IN A 209.75.39.141
ns2.everydns.net. 86400 IN A 209.75.39.142

;; Query time: 364 msec
;; SERVER: 209.75.39.141#53(ns1.everydns.net)
;; WHEN: Fri Jul 12 07:31:44 2002
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 151



I restarted and then rebooted our local caching server, and it did not have any affect, I cannot seem to resolve the domain name. I also tried incrementing the serial number, again, with no affect.

I am sure I am missing something simple, any thoughts?

coight
07-12-2002, 08:39 AM
Have you made the correct entries to httpd.conf?

allan
07-12-2002, 08:43 AM
Originally posted by Myacen
Have you made the correct entries to httpd.conf?

Yes :). But, even if I hadn't, that should not prevent me from pinging the host.

DavidU
07-12-2002, 09:19 AM
davidu@laura:~$ host -t ns hwr.us
Host hwr.us not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
davidu@laura:~$


That's not so good...


davidu@laura:~$ host -t ns openbsd.us
openbsd.us name server NS1.EVERYDNS.NET.
openbsd.us name server NS2.EVERYDNS.NET.
openbsd.us name server NS3.EVERYDNS.NET.
davidu@laura:~$


I would check with the .US registry.

-davidu

DavidU
07-12-2002, 09:24 AM
It's showing up in their whois:

http://www.whois.us/whois.cgi?TLD=us&WHOIS_QUERY=hwr.us&TYPE=DOMAIN

It just doesn't seem to be in the .US zone.

I'll play with this more after my final exam!

-davidu

Noldar
07-12-2002, 09:56 AM
I did a dnstrace with the DJBDNS tools and it looks like your nameservers are not listed with with the .us root name servers. I've only been playing with this for a couple of weeks, so I'm far from an expert :D

I'd try contacting either your Registrar or Neustar.

Richard

allan
07-12-2002, 02:13 PM
Originally posted by Noldar
I did a dnstrace with the DJBDNS tools and it looks like your nameservers are not listed with with the .us root name servers. I've only been playing with this for a couple of weeks, so I'm far from an expert :D


I am pretty sure this means they are:

http://www.whois.us/whois.cgi?TLD=us&WHOIS_QUERY=ns1.vbind.com&TYPE=NAMESERVER&Search=Submit+Query

http://www.whois.us/whois.cgi?TLD=us&WHOIS_QUERY=ns1.everydns.net&TYPE=NAMESERVER&Search=Submit+Query

See, I have been trying to get a job at Neustar for a couple of months...this just goes to show that they really need my help :).

ScottD
07-12-2002, 02:23 PM
[root@zaphod]# host -ld hwr.us
;; res_nmkquery(QUERY, hwr.us, IN, NS)
;; res_send()
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 23311
;; flags: rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; hwr.us, type = NS, class = IN
;; Querying server (# 1) address = 127.0.0.1
;; new DG socket
;; got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 23311
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; hwr.us, type = NS, class = IN
us. 2h59m27s IN SOA a.gtld.biz. dnssupport.neustar.us. (
2002086313 ; serial
15M ; refresh
15M ; retry
1W ; expiry
1D ) ; minimum
Seems like neustar is still telling the world that hwr.us doesn't have nameservers? See bolded, I'd contact them and tell them to hire you so you can fix it.

<< edit >>
For reference, here is what a working us domain looks like:[root@zaphod]# host -ld awk.us
;; res_nmkquery(QUERY, awk.us, IN, NS)
;; res_send()
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 27180
;; flags: rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; awk.us, type = NS, class = IN
;; Querying server (# 1) address = 127.0.0.1
;; new DG socket
;; got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 27180
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 2
;; awk.us, type = NS, class = IN
awk.us. 1h56m1s IN NS NS.BULKREGISTER.COM.
awk.us. 1h56m1s IN NS NS2.BULKREGISTER.COM.
NS.BULKREGISTER.COM. 1d23h56m1s IN A 216.147.43.234
NS2.BULKREGISTER.COM. 1d23h56m1s IN A 216.147.1.164
rcode = 0 (Success), ancount=2
Found 1 addresses for NS.BULKREGISTER.COM
Found 1 addresses for NS2.BULKREGISTER.COM

<< another edit >>
This is what an unregistered domain looks like, strikingly similar to hwr.us:[root@zaphod]# host -ld bladhfsdf.us
;; res_nmkquery(QUERY, bladhfsdf.us, IN, NS)
;; res_send()
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 29774
;; flags: rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; bladhfsdf.us, type = NS, class = IN
;; Querying server (# 1) address = 127.0.0.1
;; new DG socket
;; got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 29774
;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 1
;; bladhfsdf.us, type = NS, class = IN
us. 1D IN SOA a.gtld.biz. dnssupport.neustar.us. (
2002086315 ; serial
15M ; refresh
15M ; retry
1W ; expiry
1D ) ; minimum
I'd definitely say they need your services. Did they tell you when you can start yet?

DavidU
07-12-2002, 02:33 PM
DizixCom:

That's what I said.

Allan, I know you know whois and dns are unrelated.

You may have paid for a domain but they aren't putting it into the .us zone.

As to the whois entry for ns1.everydns.net it's bogus -- made up. It has nothing to do with us. (we use dotster, not tucows)

-davidu

ScottD
07-12-2002, 02:47 PM
That's what I said.Er, yeah, I just did it the long way rather unnecessarily.

allan
07-12-2002, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by DavidU

You may have paid for a domain but they aren't putting it into the .us zone.



Yup, that's it...I didn't even think that it wouldn't have been in the database :(. They really do need my help...sheesh :).

Thanks guys...I knew it was something simple, and if I had someone else look at it, it would be obvious.

allan
07-12-2002, 04:57 PM
I e-mailed neustar and cc'd both the guy I resell through and the registrar. Neustar replied with this:


Hwr.us does show up in whois.us. It takes up to 24 hours for a name to show up in whois.us.


Which is just wrong :).

The registrar (Innerwise) replied with:


Allan, we are working on the issue. There does seem to be some
synchronization with the nameservers in the .us registry. I will reply back as soon as it's straightened out.


I'll let you know how it goes :).

DavidU
07-12-2002, 06:01 PM
Hwr.us does show up in whois.us. It takes up to 24 hours for a name to show up in whois.us.

I assume they meant DNS....

And what is super weird about that is EVERY other registrar tends to have domains show up in DNS _BEFORE_ whois.

-davidu

ToastyX
07-12-2002, 06:19 PM
Originally posted by DavidU


I assume they meant DNS....

And what is super weird about that is EVERY other registrar tends to have domains show up in DNS _BEFORE_ whois.

-davidu

I think they mean WHOIS, because .us domains should start working within minutes of registration, and also, I've seen even .com domains show up in the WHOIS before DNS.

allan
07-13-2002, 12:23 AM
It looks like Innerwise fixed it, and it is now responding. this is my first .us domain, can someone tell me if this is an ongoing problem, or is it only between Innerwise and .us?

ScottD
07-13-2002, 04:33 PM
I have a few .us domains and I've had no trouble with them, registered through BulkRegister and Enom. Interestingly, a few of them did seem to be available just minutes after registering.